Beating a dead horse

#5
#5
Boca Vol said:
I thought Wharton transferring had to do with another player's GF...Dillon Bates, maybe.
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Butch seemed to have everything set up for success with the influx of legacy players. Turns out, very few of those legacies were all that good.
Wharton proved to be a quality college receiver. Bates was a bust. McKenzie, bust. Kreamer, bust. TKjr, injury bust.

We got one really good return specialist from the Berry brothers.
 
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Roustabout said:
Butch seemed to have everything set up for success with the influx of legacy players. Turns out, very few of those legacies were all that good.
Wharton proved to be a quality college receiver. Bates was a bust. McKenzie, bust. Kreamer, bust. TKjr, injury bust.

We got one really good return specialist from the Berry brothers.
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Todd Kelly wasn’t so much a bust.. he was great as a freshman. Got hurt.. then changed his number which threw everything off
 
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Roustabout said:
Butch seemed to have everything set up for success with the influx of legacy players. Turns out, very few of those legacies were all that good because Butch (and thus sadly UT) did not give them the development and training they needed to make it to the next level.
Wharton proved to be a quality college receiver. Bates was a bust. McKenzie, bust. Kreamer, bust. TKjr, injury bust.

We got one really good return specialist from the Berry brothers.
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FYP
 
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I doubt Hurd will ever tell the whole story. I think CBJ got on the bad side of at least 4 different players and this had a negative impact on the entire team. They were never cohesive as a unit on either side of the ball during his (CBJ's), tenure.
The pivotable turn came at halftime of the UGA game of 2016 after Hurd got blind-sided going in for a TD and he was "show-boating," going in. Everything after that is heresay/speculative and I heard CBJ jumped all over Hurd at half-time of that game. Next, during practice during the week after that game, Hurd hit CBJ in the face with a football because Jones was riding him hard and this led to Hurd not travelling to the TA&M game.

CBJ,imo, simply lost the team and I felt like he should have been let go immediately following the Vandy game where he obviously side-stepped reporters following that loss and also lost a share of the eastern division title and a Sugar Bowl bid. As we now know the following year was the worst year ever recorded by a UT team by not winning a single SEC game. Simply put that was a wasted year. Yessiree best do what you can to forget that mess !
 
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::: cue red faced Lyle Jones spittle speech style :::

“I guesssh it washn’t all about perscheverensch and individualssssch”?..
 
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Roustabout said:
Butch seemed to have everything set up for success with the influx of legacy players. Turns out, very few of those legacies were all that good.
Wharton proved to be a quality college receiver. Bates was a bust. McKenzie, bust. Kreamer, bust. TKjr, injury bust.

We got one really good return specialist from the Berry brothers.
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A lot of those guys stayed injured and/or weren't developed. Jones squandered their talent and his idiocy led to a lot of guys being constantly hurt.

One of the few things I disagree with in that article is that some of us never bought Jones' schtick. A few of us criticized him for the player defections... only to be shouted down here.

Pruitt looks to be more straight up. He looks to be a better coach. But honestly... that's not really a very high bar. Jones was as sleazy as he was incompetent.
 
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Delmar said:
All I know is that Butch couldn’t figure out how to use probably the best all purpose running back right now in the NFL, that being one Alvin Kamara. That tells you all you need to know about Butch’s coaching abilities. He was clueless.
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Yeah. That was probably the most damning thing Butch did. How could he not see the talent w Kamara? Hard to recruit and sell parents on him getting the best out of his kids...should they choose the Vols.
 
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