Baylor's Sawyer Robertson?

Bring in Sawyer Robertson Now

  • Yes

    Votes: 162 88.0%

  • No

    Votes: 22 12.0%
  • Total voters
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#126
#126
GVF said:
Hmmm...And just how do you get college experience? Exactly, by signing 4 blue chip QB's in a row, then recruiting over them when one of them leaves, so that they leave too. THen other blue chip QB's quit sigining cause they know you will recruit over them before they get a chance to get their experience. That's exactly how you run a BS program.

If I was Both Qb's I'd have one hand on the pen and as soon as JH signed a starter, They should both hit the door and tell him to eff off.
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Why would a true freshman run off because we took a senior quarterback from the portal? In the ideal world he needs a good year to get stronger and learn the system anyway. GBO
 
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#127
#127
Can't worry about who may or may not transfer. The focus has to be on winning and finding the best available players to do so.
 
#128
#128
airvols said:
There is pressure to win now with a big name QB because of the favorable schedule. There is rumblings from donors to get it done the money is there. I think we may see a surprise name very soon.
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Maybe. Seen some big names passed around but most guys aren’t leaving their teams this late in the year. A lot of guys probably get pay raises though. Aguilar might be a different situation since they brought in nico
 
#129
#129
CAVPUT said:
Established starting QBs hit the portal for a few reasons. They're looking for more money from their current school. They want a bigger payday than they can get from their current school They want to face better competition to grow their game for the chance at the NFL. They're malcontents who are no longer welcome at their current school. With Robertson, I think he's angling for more money from Baylor, and they have the money necessary to keep him. His competition while not SEC caliber isn't like a lower division or group of 5. He's certainly not a malcontent.

Kid from K St, has a great running game, but I'm not sure he's a fit due to his passing ability. SEC defenses will be able to keep his running from doing a ton of damage and make him one dimensional. Because of that, he's not the highest on the want list for me.

Might have missed it, but Becht isn't even in the portal is he? We might be able to draw him, but never discount the attachment kids can develop to a loyal, high character type coach. That's Campbell. Might be a tough pull, but of the 3 Big 12 guys being mentioned, I think that's our best shot and likely the best fit for what we want to do/be. Will his game translate to this league? Hard to say, but he's reportedly one of those "dawg" leaders who just makes plays. Reminds me a bit of Pavia. Kind of a gun slinger with the ability to run. Tough. I think we can outbid Iowa St, too. He seems like the horse I'd put my money on unless you bet the field.....

Something tells me that we'll see Heupel do what he usually does in the portal. He'll find a kid who's going to be a good fit in the locker room who they think they can coach up. It won't be a splash name that will rattle the current room. He'll be solid enough to come in and hold the fort until our current guys are ready to seriously contend for a starting role or be a good backup if one of the two kids manage to win the starting job.
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The second Nico left UT you’d think nearly every qbs agent in the country would reach out looking to get their guy a raise. It’s hard to believe there are any qbs who seriously would considering leaving after spring practice unless we threw them stupid money
 
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The situation is forcing UT to steal a player from another team because we are willing to spend more money. There is no point in training these 2 rookies other than for backup. The minute you train a QB, his value increases and another team will purchase him. This current system demands purchasing a junior QB with heavy experience at the end of every season. We are behind the 8 ball in this situation.
 
#132
#132
GVF said:
Hmmm...And just how do you get college experience? Exactly, by signing 4 blue chip QB's in a row, then recruiting over them when one of them leaves, so that they leave too. THen other blue chip QB's quit sigining cause they know you will recruit over them before they get a chance to get their experience. That's exactly how you run a BS program.

If I was Both Qb's I'd have one hand on the pen and as soon as JH signed a starter, They should both hit the door and tell him to eff off.
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Based on our evals of late, I'm not sure any of our QBs are "blue chip". If they are proven to be after they transfer, one would have to serious concerns about our QB coaching. Either way that's a bigger concern than recruiting over the kids on our roster. Again, Heupels success at UCF was mainly with Frosts recruits. Time will tell if the same happens here, but I suspect we won't have long to wait for our answer.
 
#133
#133
GVF said:
Hmmm...And just how do you get college experience? Exactly, by signing 4 blue chip QB's in a row, then recruiting over them when one of them leaves, so that they leave too. THen other blue chip QB's quit sigining cause they know you will recruit over them before they get a chance to get their experience. That's exactly how you run a BS program.

If I was Both Qb's I'd have one hand on the pen and as soon as JH signed a starter, They should both hit the door and tell him to eff off.
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I’m sorry but I don’t want to see this season be a throwaway year, which that is what we would have with a very very green starter.
 
#136
#136
We're in a win now world and can't afford to go into the season with only 2 QBs and both being inexperienced. Bring the guy in and let him compete.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Based on our evals of late, I'm not sure any of our QBs are "blue chip". If they are proven to be after they transfer, one would have to serious concerns about our QB coaching. Either way that's a bigger concern than recruiting over the kids on our roster. Again, Heupels success at UCF was mainly with Frosts recruits. Time will tell if the same happens here, but I suspect we won't have long to wait for our answer.
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You do remember that Heupel came here and took over a completely depleted roster. He has built this program from scratch. He followed Beldar, not Nick Saban.
 
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#138
#138
UT needs another QB and getting someone with experience is critical.

The other trait Heupel should be looking for is brains and football IQ. A new QB is going to be under the gun to learn quickly.

I'd sacrifice a little athleticism for someone who can get up to speed on the playbook, learn quickly, and "get it" mentally. I'll take making good decisions consistently over making amazing plays occasionally.
 
#139
#139
RockyTop140 said:
The second Nico left UT you’d think nearly every qbs agent in the country would reach out looking to get their guy a raise. It’s hard to believe there are any qbs who seriously would considering leaving after spring practice unless we threw them stupid money
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Yep. Agents rattle cages. Unless we go nuts with money, I think it will be a guy from a lesser league/program.
 
#140
#140
Pride85 said:
You do remember that Heupel came here and took over a completely depleted roster. He has built this program from scratch. He followed Beldar, not Nick Saban.
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Pruitt left him some really good talent on the roster. We won with it in '22 and have been relying on it, especially the OL, until this year. This is now all Heupel's roster. Let's see what he does with his chosen roster and coaching staff.

No, wait. Because of Nico...his recruit...doing him dirty, he gets a pass for the upcoming season, right? So we will say he's on the clock in '26? Fair enough.
 
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The situation is forcing UT to steal a player from another team because we are willing to spend more money. There is no point in training these 2 rookies other than for backup. The minute you train a QB, his value increases and another team will purchase him. This current system demands purchasing a junior QB with heavy experience at the end of every season. We are behind the 8 ball in this situation.
 
#146
#146
CAVPUT said:
Pruitt left him some really good talent on the roster. We won with it in '22 and have been relying on it, especially the OL, until this year. This is now all Heupel's roster. Let's see what he does with his chosen roster and coaching staff.

No, wait. Because of Nico...his recruit...doing him dirty, he gets a pass for the upcoming season, right? So we will say he's on the clock in '26? Fair enough.
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Well, Heupel just took a team primarily of his recruits to the playoffs, so there's that. I'll give you the OL, though, with Spraggins and Mays being holdovers.
 
#147
#147
VOLtaism said:
The situation is forcing UT to steal a player from another team because we are willing to spend more money. There is no point in training these 2 rookies other than for backup. The minute you train a QB, his value increases and another team will purchase him. This current system demands purchasing a junior QB with heavy experience at the end of every season. We are behind the 8 ball in this situation.
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What? Hooker was a transfer and people had to wait. Milton was a transfer and people had to wait. Nico came to UT and people were behind him, waiting and hoping for a chance. What is with everyone? Nobody is stealing anyone. The system is that people move around freely to wherever they want to go now. Like it or not and I don't necessarily like it, but that is the system
 
#148
#148
madbamahater said:
What? Hooker was a transfer and people had to wait. Milton was a transfer and people had to wait. Nico came to UT and people were behind him, waiting and hoping for a chance. What is with everyone? Nobody is stealing anyone. The system is that people move around freely to wherever they want to go now. Like it or not and I don't necessarily like it, but that is the system
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Hooker and Milton were grad transfers and didn't have to sit.
 
#149
#149
CAVPUT said:
Based on our evals of late, I'm not sure any of our QBs are "blue chip". If they are proven to be after they transfer, one would have to serious concerns about our QB coaching. Either way that's a bigger concern than recruiting over the kids on our roster. Again, Heupels success at UCF was mainly with Frosts recruits. Time will tell if the same happens here, but I suspect we won't have long to wait for our answer.
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The whole myth of 'Frost's recruits" is long proven untrue, Heupel had to do a massive rebuild after a ton of senior losses off that team. Dillion Gabriel was not a Frost recruit for instance and he worked out at QB. UCF's recruiting improved under Heupel. Tennessee's recruiting has as well. Hendon Hooker went from average at Va Tech to the QB Mt Rushmore at UT under Heupel. Drew Lock at Missouri went from terrible at Missouri to one of their all time best QBs. For all the grief that Milton gets, his 65 percent completion percentage and 20-5 td to int ratio puts him in elite UT company. Out of our top 10 passers Hooker and Ainge his junior year are the only QBs we had with higher season long completion percentages.

p.s with Heupel's recruits, we went to the playoff and finished in the top 10 for the 2nd time in 3 years. Trying to frame any narrative that he needs the recruits of others to succeed should be long dead and buried.
 
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Pride85 said:
You do remember that Heupel came here and took over a completely depleted roster. He has built this program from scratch. He followed Beldar, not Nick Saban.
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It was depleted, but clearly there was talent still. Hooked, Tillman, Hyatt, etc. Heupel came in and utilized them correctly.
 
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