Battlestar Galactica is back!

Don't know what to make of that OE. Not sure what they'd do with an extra season. Some interesting twists I am sure.
 
Well.............................

I like Lee's character a lot more. Pretty much said I had the biggest badest ship in space and I ran and I wanted to keep running. Nice!

Not quite sure how things are going to end up. I saw Earth at the end and thought...hmmm........

It would be my like we would see a constitution class starship pop up and have a Cylon federation war.
 
So, are Anders, Tigh, Tyrol, and the aide really cylons?

Just cause the think they are, does it mean that they are.
 
Id prefer it if the cylons were not human. The point of cylons being human looking mixing amonst humans, somehow bores me.
 
Check this crap out!

Ronald D. Moore has confirmed in interviews that there are 12 different models of humanoid Cylons.There are also 12 archetypes. Archetypal images represent fundamental human desires and evoke deep emotions. Each of the 12 archetypes we work with symbolises a basic human need, aspiration or motivation.

In other words, an archetype is a human type in its purest form: the classic hero, outlaw, ruler, etc. Each type has its own set of values, meanings and personality traits.

I have a list of the 12 archetypes and tried my best to make them fit the cylon models we know.The one problem is we don't know who the last cylon model is. I added Starbuck as the last model but if she is not then is would change the list that I have come up with. Read the decriptions of the 12 archetypes and list how you think they fit!

THE INNOCENT= Tory Foster

Every era has myths of a golden age or of a promised land where life has been or will be perfect. The promise of the Innocent is that life need not be hard. Within each of us, the Innocent is the spontaneous, trusting child that, while a bit dependent, has the optimism to take the journey.


THE REGULAR GUY/GAL= Galen Tyrol

The Regular Guy/Gal/Orphan understands that everyone matters, just as they are. Down-home and unpretentious, it reveals a deep structure influenced by the wounded or orphaned child that expects very little from life, but that teaches us with empathy, realism, and street smarts.



THE WARRIOR/HERO= Sam Anders

When everything seems lost, the Warrior/Hero rides over the hill and saves the day. Tough and courageous, this archetype helps us set and achieve goals, overcome obstacles, and persist in difficult times, although it also tends to see others as enemies and to think in either/or terms.



THE CAREGIVER= Lt. Sharon "Boomer" Valerii #8

The Caregiver is an altruist, moved by compassion, generosity, and selflessness to help others. Although prone to martyrdom and enabling behaviors, the inner Caregiver/Altruist helps us raise our children, aid those in need, and build structures to sustain life and health.


THE EXPLORER/SEEKER/WANDERER= Starbuck (if she is the other cylon)

The Explorer/Seeker/Wanderer leaves the known to discover and explore the unknown. This inner rugged individual braves loneliness and isolation to seek out new paths. Often oppositional, this iconoclastic archetype helps us discover our uniqueness, our perspectives, and our callings.


THE OUTLAW/DESTROYER= Aron Doral #5

The Outlaw/Destroyer embodies repressed rage about structures that no longer serve life even when these structures still are supported by society or by our conscious choices. Although this archetype can be ruthless, it weeds the garden in ways that allow for new growth.


THE LOVER= Caprica Six #6

The Lover archetype governs all kinds of love—from parental love, to friendship, to spiritual love—but we know it best in romance. Although it can bring all sorts of heartache and drama, it helps us experience pleasure, achieve intimacy, make commitments, and follow our bliss.


THE CREATOR= Simon

The Creator archetype fosters all imaginative endeavors, from the highest art to the smallest innovation in lifestyle or work. Adverse to stasis, it can cause us to overload our lives with constant new projects; yet, properly channeled, it helps us express ourselves in beautiful ways.




The Ruler= Saul Tigh

The Ruler archetype inspires us to take responsibility for our own lives, in our fields of endeavor, and in the society at large. If he/she overcomes the temptation to dominate others, the developed Ruler creates environments that invite in the gifts and perspectives of all concerned.


THE MAGICIAN= Leoben Conoy

The Magician archetype searches out the fundamental laws of science and/or metaphysics to understand how to transform situations, influence people, and make visions into realities. If the Magician can overcome the temptation to use power manipulatively, it galvanizes energies for good.


THE SAGE= D'Anna Biers #3

The Sage archetype seeks the truths that will set us free. Especially if the Sage overcomes the temptation of dogma, it can help us become wise, to see the world and ourselves objectively, and to course-correct based on objective analyses of the results of our actions and choices.


THE JESTER= Brother Cavil

The Jester archetype urges us to enjoy the process of our lives. Although the Jester can be prone to laziness and dissipation, the positive Jester invites us all out to play--showing us how to turn our work, our interactions with others, and even the most mundane tasks into FUN.
 
Part I, wherein Tigh mumbles Janice Joplin covers and Gaeta explodes, can be read here.

After the Cylon attack fizzled out pointlessly without explanation, the newly Dylonized Saul Tigh wandered into Admiral Adama’s quarters. He was singing a song he’d known since childhood, something about a magic dragon who liked rings and sealing wax. “Now I’m some frakkin’ skinjob jukebox,” he snarled to himself. It was a snarly snarl – and the other fancy stuff in the song did nothing to change that.

“Tigh, my oldest and dearest frfdgre!” Adama mumbled upon seeing his oldest and dearest frfdgre. “Come in and sjdtf down.”

“Bill, I have a confession to make,” Tigh snarled. “I’m not the man you thought I was.”

Adama burned slowly – so slowly you could feel your navel sinking into your groin. That’s how frakkin’ slow it was.

“I don’t understand,” Adama mumbled.

“My name is not Saul Tigh,” Saul Tigh said, ignoring the irony of being labeled with a name that he’d just denied. But it was ironic on levels layered with a meaning so thick you could cut it with the rusty glowing spine of a Cylon daggit having sex with a waffle iron.

Anyway, Adama didn’t say anything. His eyes narrowed imperceptibly, though, which is the sign of darn good acting.

“From now on, you must call me – Jackie Paper,” Saul Tigh said. But if he was truly Jackie Paper, the narration hadn’t picked up on it yet.

“Yeah, fine,” Adama mumbled. “Nice weather we’re having, huh?”

“What the frak are you talking anout?” Jackie Paper snarled, narration be damned. “There’s no weather on this ship.”

“But I’m not on this ship,” Adama mumbled. “I’m projecting. I’m on the stepping stones in a pedgsh, where the wind blows softly and thew vedferds jystdnhf on the alkhd.”

Jackie/Saul snarled. “What the frak is this “projecting” felgercarb?”

“Felger-what?” Lee Adama asked. He had just walked in the door. Osmodiar, the invisible Starbuck-looking lady, was flying around in a viper right behind him, but only Lee could see her. Which was surprising, because the huge viper she was flying in really took up a lot of space, especially with a red cocktail dress draped all over it.

“Felgercarb is a word from Cylons past,” Osmodiar/Starbuck sneered. “All this has happened before, and all this probably won’t happen again unless the ratings go above 1.4.”

“What?” Lee yelled.

“Why the frak are you shouting?” Paper/Tigh snarled.

“What?” Lee yelled again. “I can’t hear you over the viper engine.”

“What viper engine?”

And suddenly, she was gone. Just like that. All mysterious and crap. Like a magic dragon who lived by a sea.

“She’s gone,” Lee said. “Just like that. Poof.”

“Puff,” Saul Paper corrected him snarlingly. “And ‘Poof’ is derogatory slang for a homosexual in the UK.”

“What’s the UK?” Lee asked. Saul Tigh/Jackie Paper didn’t know how he knew that. But he dared not say anything – he’d already snarled too much.

“Would you two just frakkin’ shut up for one minute!” Adama mumbled loudly. “Can’t you see – you’re both Cylons.”

They both gasped. Saul/Paper gasped knowingly; Lee gasped unknowingly. But to the untrained ear, both gasped sounded pretty much the same.

“How can I be a Cylon?” Lee said. “Unless…”

“Unless I’m a Cylon,” Adama said. “And I am. I have been from the start.” Adama fell asleep at this point, but no one noticed. Now that’s darn fine acting. DARN fine.

“How can you be a Cylon?” Someone snarled this question, but you’ll have to guess who.

“What do you mean?” the sleeping Adama answered, making the show even harder to watch.

“Well, the skinjobs evolved from their chrome frames, and the toaster models didn’t come off the assembly line until well after you were born. So there’s no way you could possibly be a Cylon – and neither could Tigh.” (See, it was LEE asking the snarly questions. I bet you thought it was Tigh, the usual snarler, didn’t you? I’m pretty good at misleading the audience.)

Adama thought for a moment. He was also snoring, but so imperceptibly, you could hear a pin break wind. Then he spoke.

“Time travel,” Adama answered mumblingly. “And genetic twizzling.”

“Genetic whatnow?” Tigh asked, without even the trace of a snarl.

“Twizzling,” Adama answered. “It’s very complicated.”

“Sounds stupid,” Lee said.

“No, it doesn’t,” Adama said. “And if you think so, you must be stupid.”

“Huh?” Lee said.

“He’s right, dammit,” Tigh snarled, defending his fellow Cylon. “This is the best frakkin’ show on television. If you don’t get it, it means you’re stupid. That’s the frakkin truth.” He then twizzled his jeans. Everyone tried not to notice.

Meanwhile and elsewhere, Hotdog started hearing the chorus from “I’m Henry the Eighth I Am.” But it was in the WRONG KEY…

TO BE CONTINUED…

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Well, it's finally back. Premiered Friday night. Fracking good show. Earth not what they expected. Definitely going to be a great last season.
 
I wonder if Starbuck will turn out to be something like the extra dimensional being who helped mankind in the original series?

Also with the 13th colony being all Cylon.The earth
having been destroyed for 2,000 years How can you have a colony of cylons that existed 2,000 years ago when they hadn't been invented yet.I smell a time paradox coming.

Definitely a treat for the SCI-FI fan.:good!:
 
I wonder if Starbuck will turn out to be something like the extra dimensional being who helped mankind in the original series?

Also with the 13th colony being all Cylon.The earth
having been destroyed for 2,000 years How can you have a colony of cylons that existed 2,000 years ago when they hadn't been invented yet.I smell a time paradox coming.

Definitely a treat for the SCI-FI fan.:good!:

Who is to say humans didn't nuke earth?

All this crap does is repeat itself.

 
That is the question. I guess I am going with the original timeline where Apolla was brought back to life by the City of Lights Ship.

Also, if there was a planet of cylons, why are the 12 so special?

Did they make peace with humans???????????
 
That is the question. I guess I am going with the original timeline where Apolla was brought back to life by the City of Lights Ship.

Also, if there was a planet of cylons, why are the 12 so special?

Did they make peace with humans???????????

Ability to be reborn?
 
I mean to ask you, did Dualla shooting herself really bother you?

I'm sad to say not really. I seen it coming. She was so upset on the flight back from earth. Then so happy on the date. I just had a feeling she would do it. So when it happened I was not surprised.
 

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