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#151
WallyBalls said:
I realize its not exactly a target area for UT, but is Dallas something that would ever be considered if we were invited?

Second question, if the city ever gets their hearts right and relents on the entertainment tax, will the neutral site games slow down/end?
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They host an annual week one game, so it is up to the Cowboys/Cotton Bowl to invite Tennessee, not Tennessee to book the venue.

The entertainment tax is a very small part of it. You want to avoid having eight home games, more than seven results in fan fatigue. I know many here will argue with me on that point, but in the years Tennessee has had eight home games, attendance has suffered.

The neutral site games have largely replaced the home and home series with other power five schools. Having a neutral site game is a bonus pay day. If you play in one every year, you get a check every year. If you play a home and home, you get a home game gate receipt for one game, and virtually nothing for the other. Sure, you get a small guarantee for traveling, but in a home and home series, the guarantee for each team each year is basically the same, so it is a wash.

The positive is, momentum for these neutral site games is starting to slow down because attendance is suffering. They used to be unique, so fans would travel. Now, they are commonplace and fans are opting to watch on TV.

I foresee Dallas, Atlanta, Orlando, and Houston continuing to host a neutral site game every year, but the rest will start to die off. Tennessee has neutral site games scheduled each of the next two years in Atlanta and Charlotte, but beyond that we are negotiating home and home series again. Don't be surprised to see Oklahoma or another big 12 school back on the schedule in 2019 or 2020.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
They host an annual week one game, so it is up to the Cowboys/Cotton Bowl to invite Tennessee, not Tennessee to book the venue.

The entertainment tax is a very small part of it. You want to avoid having eight home games, more than seven results in fan fatigue. I know many here will argue with me on that point, but in the years Tennessee has had eight home games, attendance has suffered.

The neutral site games have largely replaced the home and home series with other power five schools. Having a neutral site game is a bonus pay day. If you play in one every year, you get a check every year. If you play a home and home, you get a home game gate receipt for one game, and virtually nothing for the other. Sure, you get a small guarantee for traveling, but in a home and home series, the guarantee for each team each year is basically the same, so it is a wash.

The positive is, momentum for these neutral site games is starting to slow down because attendance is suffering. They used to be unique, so fans would travel. Now, they are commonplace and fans are opting to watch on TV.

I foresee Dallas, Atlanta, Orlando, and Houston continuing to host a neutral site game every year, but the rest will start to die off. Tennessee has neutral site games scheduled each of the next two years in Atlanta and Charlotte, but beyond that we are negotiating home and home series again. Don't be surprised to see Oklahoma or another big 12 school back on the schedule in 2019 or 2020.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.
 
#153
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DeerPark12 said:
They host an annual week one game, so it is up to the Cowboys/Cotton Bowl to invite Tennessee, not Tennessee to book the venue.

The entertainment tax is a very small part of it. You want to avoid having eight home games, more than seven results in fan fatigue. I know many here will argue with me on that point, but in the years Tennessee has had eight home games, attendance has suffered.

The neutral site games have largely replaced the home and home series with other power five schools. Having a neutral site game is a bonus pay day. If you play in one every year, you get a check every year. If you play a home and home, you get a home game gate receipt for one game, and virtually nothing for the other. Sure, you get a small guarantee for traveling, but in a home and home series, the guarantee for each team each year is basically the same, so it is a wash.

The positive is, momentum for these neutral site games is starting to slow down because attendance is suffering. They used to be unique, so fans would travel. Now, they are commonplace and fans are opting to watch on TV.

I foresee Dallas, Atlanta, Orlando, and Houston continuing to host a neutral site game every year, but the rest will start to die off. Tennessee has neutral site games scheduled each of the next two years in Atlanta and Charlotte, but beyond that we are negotiating home and home series again. Don't be surprised to see Oklahoma or another big 12 school back on the schedule in 2019 or 2020.
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Oklahoma would be cool but I want the longhorns or Baylor.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
They host an annual week one game, so it is up to the Cowboys/Cotton Bowl to invite Tennessee, not Tennessee to book the venue.

The entertainment tax is a very small part of it. You want to avoid having eight home games, more than seven results in fan fatigue. I know many here will argue with me on that point, but in the years Tennessee has had eight home games, attendance has suffered.

The neutral site games have largely replaced the home and home series with other power five schools. Having a neutral site game is a bonus pay day. If you play in one every year, you get a check every year. If you play a home and home, you get a home game gate receipt for one game, and virtually nothing for the other. Sure, you get a small guarantee for traveling, but in a home and home series, the guarantee for each team each year is basically the same, so it is a wash.

The positive is, momentum for these neutral site games is starting to slow down because attendance is suffering. They used to be unique, so fans would travel. Now, they are commonplace and fans are opting to watch on TV.

I foresee Dallas, Atlanta, Orlando, and Houston continuing to host a neutral site game every year, but the rest will start to die off. Tennessee has neutral site games scheduled each of the next two years in Atlanta and Charlotte, but beyond that we are negotiating home and home series again. Don't be surprised to see Oklahoma or another big 12 school back on the schedule in 2019 or 2020.
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It is all about the $.

As it should be.
 
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WallyBalls said:
I realize its not exactly a target area for UT, but is Dallas something that would ever be considered if we were invited?

Second question, if the city ever gets their hearts right and relents on the entertainment tax, will the neutral site games slow down/end?
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Why would the city relent on the entertainment tax? And what difference would it make to the program since it is paid for by the fans and not the AD? The athletic department has always passed the tax through to the fans since its inception. Do you really think the AD would discount tickets based on elimination of the entertainment tax? Ain't going to happen.
 
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onevol74 said:
Why would the city relent on the entertainment tax? And what difference would it make to the program since it is paid for by the fans and not the AD? The athletic department has always passed the tax through to the fans since its inception. Do you really think the AD would discount tickets based on elimination of the entertainment tax? Ain't going to happen.
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Here is UT's position:

The Facts on the Amusement Tax - University of Tennessee Official Athletic Site

IMO, its a BS tax that needs to go.
 
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onevol74 said:
I hate taxes, but this is a user tax that applies to those who use the services and not people who do not use the services. Just like taxes on tobacco.
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I will disagree with that.

If that were the case, then why aren't things like concerts, wrestling shows, etc included in the tax? Why is it targeted solely at UT football and basketball? Hell, why is UT the only school in the country that deals with it?
 
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#165
#165
WallyBalls said:
I will disagree with that.

If that were the case, then why aren't things like concerts, wrestling shows, etc included in the tax? Why is it targeted solely at UT football and basketball? Hell, why is UT the only school in the country that deals with it?
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It somewhat randomly also applies to movie tickets in the city. Gotta love paying 15% tax on top of a $13 movie ticket.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
UT just wants it to go so they can charge the same amount for tickets but keep what they had been passing along as the tax.

I don't have a problem with the tax and I'd be willing to bet that once Dave Hart goes away, UT won't have a problem with it anymore either.
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Fair enough, although I can't blame them if no other Athletic departments pay one.

Most of my beef is with the city anyhow. I still can't forgive them for chasing a frigging planetarium and building that damn convention center rather than a baseball stadium...but that's a totally separate issue lol.
 
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There's a pretty long thread on this already. We're wearing our traditional orange and white home uniforms per Dave Hart.

Edit: Just saw that you saw the mentioned thread.lol
 
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