Barnett on playing in bowl

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Ethan Hooper

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When it was brought up, this is that he had to say.

“I’m from Tennessee. It would be disrespectful not to play," Barnett said. "I wouldn’t skip a game. Not a lot of people get to play football, especially at this level. I know those other guys probably don’t want to get hurt and stuff like that, but I think God has a plan for everything. So I wouldn’t skip a game.”

I respect other players' decisions to sit, but I love Barnetts attitude. He'll always be a favorite of mine, and it's been a pleasure watching him.
 
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You gotta love players with guts, who play the game for honor before money.

Derek took time out to talk to some Vol fans yesterday, to let them know that playing for UT is nothing to take for granted.

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Ethan Hooper said:
When it was brought up, this is that he had to say.

“I’m from Tennessee. It would be disrespectful not to play," Barnett said. "I wouldn’t skip a game. Not a lot of people get to play football, especially at this level. I know those other guys probably don’t want to get hurt and stuff like that, but I think God has a plan for everything. So I wouldn’t skip a game.”

I respect other players' decisions to sit, but I love Barnetts attitude. He'll always be a favorite of mine, and it's been a pleasure watching him.
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Its his opinion and I respect it but in a capitalist society it is disrespectful to not economically compensate these player's for the skills and service they provide to the school's, NCAA, and fan base. You can get an education at a public library and it is not free there either.
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
Its his opinion and I respect it but in a capitalist society it is disrespectful to not economically compensate these player's for the skills and service they provide to the school's, NCAA, and fan base. You can get an education at a public library and it is not free there either.
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Guess its all how you look at it. Growing up I knew attending UT was not a realistic option for me, but it would have been a dream come true. I like how Barnett views it. Barnett will profit greatly from his time at Tennessee in a few month, not to mention what he got while here.
Its not unique to college football. Radio and media people start out as interns to get there name out there. I have a friend that became a doctor. She worned for 4 years before getting her first paycheck.
Even guys that dont go to the NFL profit from it. There is a very successful insurance agent where I live. He played for Alabama.and his business cards have him in his uniforn and everyone knows his name and use him as an insurance agent because of his time there.
 
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Refreshing to hear a player with that attitude and love for his school. Its awesome that we have been able to watch two all time great Vols in the same team, in Barnett and Dobbs.
 
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volfannbama said:
Guess its all how you look at it. Growing up I knew attending UT was not a realistic option for me, but it would have been a dream come true. I like how Barnett views it. Barnett will profit greatly from his time at Tennessee in a few month, not to mention what he got while here.
Its not unique to college football. Radio and media people start out as interns to get there name out there. I have a friend that became a doctor. She worned for 4 years before getting her first paycheck.
Even guys that dont go to the NFL profit from it. There is a very successful insurance agent where I live. He played for Alabama.and his business cards have him in his uniforn and everyone knows his name and use him as an insurance agent because of his time there.
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I'm not a communist and you didn't infer that...I just feel that the balance between the risk (long-term physical) and economic rewards (less than 2% make it to the NFL) is out of whack for college football players. I guess I see the interning doctors as the second and third team. The NCAA doesn't sit right with me and all their petty rules (I have nothing to gain from this conversation). We live in the 21st century, most don't even buy music anymore. Why the antiquated system in college football? Who is raking in these profits?
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
Its his opinion and I respect it but in a capitalist society it is disrespectful to not economically compensate these player's for the skills and service they provide to the school's, NCAA, and fan base. You can get an education at a public library and it is not free there either.
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How would you go about compensating these guys in addition to what they are already getting?
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
When it was brought up, this is that he had to say.

“I’m from Tennessee. It would be disrespectful not to play," Barnett said. "I wouldn’t skip a game. Not a lot of people get to play football, especially at this level. I know those other guys probably don’t want to get hurt and stuff like that, but I think God has a plan for everything. So I wouldn’t skip a game.”

I respect other players' decisions to sit, but I love Barnetts attitude. He'll always be a favorite of mine, and it's been a pleasure watching him.
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There's a good chance Barnett has an end game and can see a day where he will not be on a football field playing. Could be he'll live in Tennessee and will be a legend 'til his dying day much like Doug Atkins did. The converse of that was another kid in Barnett's class that quit mid season, if he's sitting at the bar someday in Nashville, don't you move to the other end to separate yourself from the scuz? I would.
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
I'm not a communist and you didn't infer that...I just feel that the balance between the risk (long-term physical) and economic rewards (less than 2% make it to the NFL) is out of whack for college football players. I guess I see the interning doctors as the second and third team. The NCAA doesn't sit right with me and all their petty rules (I have nothing to gain from this conversation). We live in the 21st century, most don't even buy music anymore. Why the antiquated system in college football? Who is raking in these profits?
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Yes, the upper tier athletic programs rake in a ton of money. But athletic scholarships aren't free. The athletic depts. pay for them. I don't see how you can pay the players fairly. Does the Heisman candidate or All-Americans get paid more than a RS Fr? What about the other sports?

I agree that it seems unbalanced by the $$$$ the football team brings in. But if you think the system is corrupt now, wait until cash is openly distributed.
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
I'm not a communist and you didn't infer that...I just feel that the balance between the risk (long-term physical) and economic rewards (less than 2% make it to the NFL) is out of whack for college football players. I guess I see the interning doctors as the second and third team. The NCAA doesn't sit right with me and all their petty rules (I have nothing to gain from this conversation). We live in the 21st century, most don't even buy music anymore. Why the antiquated system in college football? Who is raking in these profits?
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Yeah the ncaa does some petty stuff. I just dont think making these kids employees is a good idea, it has many unintended consequences. I think they would recieve a small monthy allowance, seems they already do.
But we also have to be real about the situation. Like A. Foster complaining about starving while there. Dude gain what, 30 lbs of pure muscle while at UT and left with how many thousands of dollars worth of tattoos. Guys are walking into games with 300 dollar headphones on their heads. I know college students that eat Raman noodles three times a day and leave college with tons of debt.
Lets also be honest about the conversation nobody wants to have, these guys are getting paid, recruits are getting paid it happens at every school in America.
Making them employees opens a bunch of cans noone wants to deal with in terms of firing, transferring, taxes etc.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Yes, the upper tier athletic programs rake in a ton of money. But athletic scholarships aren't free. The athletic depts. pay for them. I don't see how you can pay the players fairly. Does the Heisman candidate or All-Americans get paid more than a RS Fr? What about the other sports?

I agree that it seems unbalanced by the $$$$ the football team brings in. But if you think the system is corrupt now, wait until cash is openly distributed.
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So everyone gets a trophy? Its better the devil you know than the one you don't? Ok, I also realize the world isn't fair and everyone's definition of fair depends on where they sit in the conversation. In my world athletic scholarships yield significant ROI for the company and its investors. Why don't the players have a union or did the NCAA make that against the rules too?
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
Your post infers that these players are adequately compensated. Please do tell.
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Your post inferred they were not compensated at all, my post asked how they should be compensated in addition to what they already get. To attend college is expensive, until the Tn lottery scholarship many solid students were unable to go to college without running up large student loan bills.

What would you suggest would be fair compensation for these players?
 
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Guy has given nothing short of 100% in every game he's played for UT. We'll miss him suiting up in orange. Glad he's playing this week!
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
So everyone gets a trophy? Its better the devil you know than the one you don't? Ok, I also realize the world isn't fair and everyone's definition of fair depends on where they sit in the conversation. In my world athletic scholarships yield significant ROI for the company and its investors. Why don't the players have a union or did the NCAA make that against the rules too?
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Northwestern players attempted to form a union last year. What does everyone receiving a trophy mean?

Also, the ROI you speak of is only high for a handful of schools. You need to look outside the SEC and most of the P5.
 
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volfannbama said:
Yeah the ncaa does some petty stuff. I just dont think making these kids employees is a good idea, it has many unintended consequences. I think they would recieve a small monthy allowance, seems they already do.
But we also have to be real about the situation. Like A. Foster complaining about starving while there. Dude gain what, 30 lbs of pure muscle while at UT and left with how many thousands of dollars worth of tattoos. Guys are walking into games with 300 dollar headphones on their heads. I know college students that eat Raman noodles three times a day and leave college with tons of debt.
Lets also be honest about the conversation nobody wants to have, these guys are getting paid, recruits are getting paid it happens at every school in America.
Making them employees opens a bunch of cans noone wants to deal with in terms of firing, transferring, taxes etc.
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I'm sure you are right; so who does it best and how do we copy/paste? I'm not trying to right the world. These are young adults that provide more entertainment value to me than G Clooney, Tom Cruise, the list goes on.
 
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Remy said:
There's a good chance Barnett has an end game and can see a day where he will not be on a football field playing. Could be he'll live in Tennessee and will be a legend 'til his dying day much like Doug Atkins did. The converse of that was another kid in Barnett's class that quit mid season, if he's sitting at the bar someday in Nashville, don't you move to the other end to separate yourself from the scuz? I would.
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I hope it works out for Hurd. Maybe he will gain some wisdom over the next few years. He gave a lot to the Vols just not his all.
 
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