Barnes and UT owns Cal and UK again

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Lurker said:
Part of Grant Ramey's article today on 247 puts Barnes and Kentucky into sharp perspective:

"No. 11 Tennessee’s rally from down 10 points in the second half to win 82-71 at Rupp Arena in Lexington Saturday night gave Barnes his eighth win over the Wildcats in 13 meetings dating back to February 2016. Before Barnes, Tennessee needed 32 games against Kentucky to win eight, dating back to February 1999."

That is north of a 60% winning percentage since Barnes got to Knoxville. He goes on:

"Before Barnes, the Vols had won only four times at Rupp Arena — 1977, 1979, 1999 and 2006. Tennessee has now won three times in its last four trips to Lexington. The only loss: When the team had been ranked No. 1 for a month and had won a school-record 19 straight games in 2019."

Yea, Barnes looks to me like he is doing his part. Nevertheless, at the same time he's been consistently accused by "fans" of being too old, too passive, too quiet, too spiritual, too selfish, not familiar with the modern game and, the real big one, overpaid. Ridiculous!

This is a great time to be a Vol basketball fan. Enjoy it while it lasts. It is not likely to last forever.
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Barnes should get way more credit for this, yet we'll hear crickets from some of the usual suspects. UK is our biggest basketball rival and Barnes is having success most of us haven't seen in our lifetimes. Before anyone says "Yeah but UK isn't good"...I remember an NIT bound UK destroying us twice during a certain coach's run in Knoxville that seems to still get downplayed. And now every time said certain coach beats UK it's declared how he owns them.....even though he sucked against UK when he was here.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Barnes should get way more credit for this, yet we'll hear crickets from some of the usual suspects. UK is our biggest basketball rival and Barnes is having success most of us haven't seen in our lifetimes. Before anyone says "Yeah but UK isn't good"...I remember an NIT bound UK destroying us twice during a certain coach's run in Knoxville that seems to still get downplayed. And now every time said certain coach beats UK it's declared how he owns them.....even though he sucked against UK when he was here.
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Well said
 
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I've said before you never know what UT team you're gonna get. A team that barely scores 50 against inferior teams like Miss St and Ole Miss or the one that hammers Kansas and Kentucky. That I believe is a fair criticism of Barnes. You gotta give him credit for the good he's done though for sure...but the inconsistency has always been an issue for his teams. It just has. He's not a God as some like to portray him as...nor is he a lousy coach as some like to portray. He brings more good than bad most definitely.
 
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Worst Kentucky team I can recall in some time....

Cal has somehow managed to get under their skin enough where they just fold up. Severe lack of confidence in their game during crunch time.
 
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djohnnyg said:
I've said before you never know what UT team you're gonna get. A team that barely scores 50 against inferior teams like Miss St and Ole Miss or the one that hammers Kansas and Kentucky. That I believe is a fair criticism of Barnes. You gotta give him credit for the good he's done though for sure...but the inconsistency has always been an issue for his teams. It just has. He's not a God as some like to portray him as...nor is he a lousy coach as some like to portray. He brings more good than bad most definitely.
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Inconsistency isn’t unusual when 11 of 13 scholarship players are in their 1st or 2nd year in the program. We might be peaking at the perfect time this year.
 
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Barnes was giving a ref hell at the half. Looked like he wanted to get a technical
 
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Lurker said:
Your Barnes dislike is blinding you. Watch the first half again and figure out what the Vols were trying to do but were obstructed from doing by the wacky officiating. The reins were never on. The horses just weren't running or they couldn't run. Barnes challenged the refs at the half and stayed the course for the win despite the almost absence of Fulkerson. Would you be more objective if Barnes was underpaid? Come on. He owns Kentucky.
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We own UK, even in Corrupt Arena ... and fans STILL complain about the coach. You hear people say stuff like this in jest. But it's actually REAL. If we win the natty, they will lie in wait to complain about the walk ons not getting on the floor when we got a 6 pt cushion.

Legions of the Miserable on roids!
 
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I will say this, Calipari's UK teams have not been as dominate the last 5-6 years. UK has been trending down for a while now. When he first came there, they were loaded with talent and it felt like an upset if they don't make FF. They were usually 1-2 seeds. I don't think they have been a 1-2 seed the last 5 years.
 
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djohnnyg said:
I've said before you never know what UT team you're gonna get. A team that barely scores 50 against inferior teams like Miss St and Ole Miss or the one that hammers Kansas and Kentucky. That I believe is a fair criticism of Barnes. You gotta give him credit for the good he's done though for sure...but the inconsistency has always been an issue for his teams. It just has. He's not a God as some like to portray him as...nor is he a lousy coach as some like to portray. He brings more good than bad most definitely.
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I’ll take him even with that criticism. But that’s just me.
 
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tennrich1 said:
No criticism of you at all...but if you don’t remember us beating Bama you are young. Which is a great thing to be!!
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I am young, but I am older than the kids we're trying to recruit to play football here, so they definitely cant remember it either, which is a problem
 
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volbound1700 said:
I will say this, Calipari's UK teams have not been as dominate the last 5-6 years. UK has been trending down for a while now. When he first came there, they were loaded with talent and it felt like an upset if they don't make FF. They were usually 1-2 seeds. I don't think they have been a 1-2 seed the last 5 years.
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In the last 4 tourneys that have been played (since we didn’t have one in 2020) Kentucky has been a 2 seed twice. So in 50% of the tournaments, over the time span you laid out, UK spent being a 2 seed. Also over that 5 year time span they are 140-38. Let’s not act like this year for UK is a good reflection of their past 5.
 
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Vol49er said:
I am young, but I am older than the kids we're trying to recruit to play football here, so they definitely cant remember it either, which is a problem
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No one else is beating Bama either but I get your point. I got an idea...let’s beat Bama!
 
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cardvolfan said:
Was that the infamous Corey Allen play in that win?
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The summer after this happened I saw CA at a mall in the Nashville area. He was kind of hard to miss since he was about a foot taller than everyone else in the mall. He was walking on the other side going the other way. I yelled "Go Big Orange!" and he gave me a small smile and a head nod and fist pump. I remembered he was notoriously kind of stone faced, never got really happy nor really down.
 
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I also wouldn't mind if we rolled out a throwback for those uniforms. The Houston teams were bad but the unis were nice.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I will say this, Calipari's UK teams have not been as dominate the last 5-6 years. UK has been trending down for a while now. When he first came there, they were loaded with talent and it felt like an upset if they don't make FF. They were usually 1-2 seeds. I don't think they have been a 1-2 seed the last 5 years.
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Calipari has become a victim of his own success. When you have a lot of turnover( ie....recruits staying only 1 or 2 years) and going pro, you lose stability that you get with having leadership from upper classmen. You finally run into a class that don't gel as a team, and you have a train wreck.
 
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djohnnyg said:
I've said before you never know what UT team you're gonna get. A team that barely scores 50 against inferior teams like Miss St and Ole Miss or the one that hammers Kansas and Kentucky. That I believe is a fair criticism of Barnes. You gotta give him credit for the good he's done though for sure...but the inconsistency has always been an issue for his teams. It just has. He's not a God as some like to portray him as...nor is he a lousy coach as some like to portray. He brings more good than bad most definitely.
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The 2019 team won 23 games by double digits. Inconsistency is not always an issue, but it's very much a part of college basketball overall. It's why the sport can be fun to watch.
 
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