Banks in LB rotation

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The fact that our 3 or 4th string RB is in the LB rotation tells all for the beleagured hapless Vowels, doesn't it?
 
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photovol said:
The fact that our 3 or 4th string RB is in the LB rotation tells all for the beleagured hapless Vowels, doesn't it?
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Yep. But of course, all this team needs is a fire and brimstone speech from Pruitt or JJ to go along with just lining up in the wildcat with JJ at the helm and our problems are solved, right? This team needed to be rebuilt. There are no shortcuts or easy fixes. It's going to be a long and painful road.

Speeches and gimmicks aren't going to get us back to truly competing in the SEC. It's going to take recruiting the right kinds of players and developing them. We need a ton of help at all positions but especially on both lines. What we have right now isn't good enough. Folks may not want to hear it, but it's at least a 2 year project to get linemen up to the level of competing in the SEC vs the likes of bama and UGA. The notion that the coaches just aren't "coaching them up" with the current players is naive. If all it took was "coaching them up", we could take any player and make him into a 5 star talent. Doesn't work that way.

Speaking of 5 stars...I hope by now we recognize that these rankings are to be taken with a grain of salt. We've seen these "5 star beasts" like Kongbo, Peterson, etc who might have physical tools but simply didn't have what it took on the inside and upstairs to be elite. Suspect Henry T will live up to expectation but he appears to be the complete package.

That's the rub in recruiting. Get to know the kids. Find out what makes them tick...what drives them. Of course, those are the guys that Bama and UGA are after as well. Bottom line....this is gonna take a few more years of top shelf recruiting and coaching...plus a little luck. I won't even begin to believe in this team or all the talk coming from the coaches and players until the roster is completely turned over.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Yep. But of course, all this team needs is a fire and brimstone speech from Pruitt or JJ to go along with just lining up in the wildcat with JJ at the helm and our problems are solved, right? This team needed to be rebuilt. There are no shortcuts or easy fixes. It's going to be a long and painful road.

Speeches and gimmicks aren't going to get us back to truly competing in the SEC. It's going to take recruiting the right kinds of players and developing them. We need a ton of help at all positions but especially on both lines. What we have right now isn't good enough. Folks may not want to hear it, but it's at least a 2 year project to get linemen up to the level of competing in the SEC vs the likes of bama and UGA. The notion that the coaches just aren't "coaching them up" with the current players is naive. If all it took was "coaching them up", we could take any player and make him into a 5 star talent. Doesn't work that way.

Speaking of 5 stars...I hope by now we recognize that these rankings are to be taken with a grain of salt. We've seen these "5 star beasts" like Kongbo, Peterson, etc who might have physical tools but simply didn't have what it took on the inside and upstairs to be elite. Suspect Henry T will live up to expectation but he appears to be the complete package.

That's the rub in recruiting. Get to know the kids. Find out what makes them tick...what drives them. Of course, those are the guys that Bama and UGA are after as well. Bottom line....this is gonna take a few more years of top shelf recruiting and coaching...plus a little luck. I won't even begin to believe in this team or all the talk coming from the coaches and players until the roster is completely turned over.
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YESSS!!!!!
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Begs two questions for me...

Where is Crouch? And is Peterson close to being able to play?
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It appeared to me that if OL can't create holes to run through, that we may need a bull dozer who can make holes...IF Crouch not getting PT at LB, let him line up some at RB.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Yep. But of course, all this team needs is a fire and brimstone speech from Pruitt or JJ to go along with just lining up in the wildcat with JJ at the helm and our problems are solved, right? This team needed to be rebuilt. There are no shortcuts or easy fixes. It's going to be a long and painful road.

Speeches and gimmicks aren't going to get us back to truly competing in the SEC. It's going to take recruiting the right kinds of players and developing them. We need a ton of help at all positions but especially on both lines. What we have right now isn't good enough. Folks may not want to hear it, but it's at least a 2 year project to get linemen up to the level of competing in the SEC vs the likes of bama and UGA. The notion that the coaches just aren't "coaching them up" with the current players is naive. If all it took was "coaching them up", we could take any player and make him into a 5 star talent. Doesn't work that way.

Speaking of 5 stars...I hope by now we recognize that these rankings are to be taken with a grain of salt. We've seen these "5 star beasts" like Kongbo, Peterson, etc who might have physical tools but simply didn't have what it took on the inside and upstairs to be elite. Suspect Henry T will live up to expectation but he appears to be the complete package.

That's the rub in recruiting. Get to know the kids. Find out what makes them tick...what drives them. Of course, those are the guys that Bama and UGA are after as well. Bottom line....this is gonna take a few more years of top shelf recruiting and coaching...plus a little luck. I won't even begin to believe in this team or all the talk coming from the coaches and players until the roster is completely turned over.
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What you posted is true. We need recruiting AND development to compete in the SEC. Except for a few die hards, I think most people understand that truth. Did anyone really expect us to compete against Bama, UGA, and UF?
What about competing against the lower teams in the SEC? Are we undermanned and under developed against those teams? Maybe we were (or still are). Were victories against Barn and UK flukes?
What about competing against ACC teams? FCS? SunBelt?

Where are we on the scale of competitiveness?
 
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Who knows. After Saturday I'm done giving the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt on bizzare depth chart decisions.

We, supposedly, have 10 guys playing equally poorly on the defensive line who have been here all Summer.

And you play a guy half the game who has been sitting in the transfer portal the entire time?

Makes zero sense. Banks has no idea what he's doing at ILB. Peterson must not know which side of the ball to line up on to know less about what's going on than Banks.
 
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Maybe we'll see Crouch in the rotation this week. Perhaps Pruitt and staff are strategically saving his redshirt and will pick the max 4 games based off need. If Pruitt is serious about coaching in Knoxville, this is a long game. He needs as many of his guys together in the coming years.

Either that or he's a RB, like Banks, trying to learn LB schemes. Everyone recruited him at RB except TN. There's a reason for that. He's a stud RB. Now he wants to play LB at the SEC level. It takes time to learn.
 
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germantown902 said:
Maybe we'll see Crouch in the rotation this week. Perhaps Pruitt and staff are strategically saving his redshirt and will 4 games based off need. If Pruitt is serious about coaching in Knoxville, this is a long game. He needs as many of his guys together in the coming years.

Either that or he's a RB, like Banks, trying to learn LB schemes. Everyone recruited him at RB except TN. There's a reason for that. He's a stud RB. Now he wants to play LB at the SEC level. It takes time to learn.
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If he is serious about coaching here, he better be worrying about winning now and not saving redshirts to be coached by the guy who replaces him because he couldn't win.
 
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McDad said:
What you posted is true. We need recruiting AND development to compete in the SEC. Except for a few die hards, I think most people understand that truth. Did anyone really expect us to compete against Bama, UGA, and UF?
What about competing against the lower teams in the SEC? Are we undermanned and under developed against those teams? Maybe we were (or still are). Were victories against Barn and UK flukes?
What about competing against ACC teams? FCS? SunBelt?

Where are we on the scale of competitiveness?
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Can we compete physically? Yes. I think our issues are with heart and in some cases, brain. Very often in games it becomes a contest of wills. I think we have a lot of players who simply don't want to fight. I think we have others who are struggling to grasp the playbook and schemes.
 
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2 good questions. Where is Peterson....I saw Pappoe in the Auburn game, just kept thinking what about Peterson.....and did Crouch even come in? Unless injured, that talent no matter where we put it needs to be on the field somewhere O or D.

Maybe we should dumb down the game and let the kids who can play just play. Seemingly they can't digest and learn the desired assignments, so, why would it be bad to do this? Serious question.

We weren't winning the division this year, it's another lump taking year, so, maybe go as dumbed down and simple and allow the best athletes to just go out there and play. Maybe go 4-3, or 4-2-5, and stay in it.

Play simple D, man to man, 2 safeties, have MLB spy and react, OLB go man or they are blitzing, line plays mostly penetrating or collapse the line clog the middle type D. ????
 
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Booker512 said:
How much recruiting does it take to beat a 2 win sunbelt team on opening weekend?

I’m infinitely curious
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That's where it comes down to what's inside these players. You put "competitors" like Jennings out there and we'd have rolled GSU. You get kids like Murphy who seem to find humor in any aspect of what happened last saturday out there to face an opponent, no matter how inferior in talent, who is ready to fight you and bleed to win the game and players like that will just lay down. They'll be more interested in the party plans for Saturday night.

Either a player loves the fight and is driven to beat the guy across from him or he isn't. I truly believe we have far too many on this team who don't really have that drive.
 
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CAVPUT said:
That's where it comes down to what's inside these players. You put "competitors" like Jennings out there and we'd have rolled GSU. You get kids like Murphy who seem to find humor in any aspect of what happened last saturday out there to face an opponent, no matter how inferior in talent, who is ready to fight you and bleed to win the game and players like that will just lay down. They'll be more interested in the party plans for Saturday night.

Either a player loves the fight and is driven to beat the guy across from him or he isn't. I truly believe we have far too many on this team who don't really have that drive.
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Amazing that two entirely different coaching staffs struggle to recruit and football players that are actually interested in playing......football?

Georgia state must have hit the jackpot wherever they recruit from.
 
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Booker512 said:
Amazing that two entirely different coaching staffs struggle to recruit and football players that are actually interested in playing......football?

Georgia state must have hit the jackpot wherever they recruit from.
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I think it's the players butch recruited who are lacking and not buying in. Suspect the problem with Pruitts payers is that some simply aren't ready to go yet. While we fans are ready to pull the redshirt and roll with them, that's not fair to players who need a redshirt. They have 4 short years to play and almost all have the goal of playing in the NFL. I'm also sure that a parent would be more than a little upset if their son was put in a position that he was unprepared for.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Can we compete physically? Yes. I think our issues are with heart and in some cases, brain. Very often in games it becomes a contest of wills. I think we have a lot of players who simply don't want to fight. I think we have others who are struggling to grasp the playbook and schemes.
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The product on the field supports your hunches.

Are these coach issues? Player issues? Both?
 
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