Bama Recruiting Violation?

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LSU-SIU said:
The whole family wanted him in BR, end of story. They are very concern with the other issues as well and no most of them are not going to get on tv and say it. They are not ok with it, they don't want him in Bama for good reason, doesn't mean you see them take out a billboard on the subject though.

The End. Of course, there is more to this story, but not really material in regards to tomorrow.
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You keep making definitive statements. And yet, his parents can easily prevent him from going to Bama by not signing his LOI, and yet both have said they will. If they have issues with his decision, they obviously aren't too important.
 
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#77
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bamawriter said:
You keep making definitive statements. And yet, his parents can easily prevent him from going to Bama by not signing his LOI, and yet both have said they will. If they have issues with his decision, they obviously aren't too important.
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They realize there isn't much they can do other than to spoil any chance he might have. Family figured out exactly what is going on, you are just mad because one of them is saying it in public. This tactic has been used elsewhere.

It is, what it is.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They realize there isn't much they can do other than to spoil any chance he might have. Family figured out exactly what is going on, you are just mad because one of them is saying it in public. This tactic has been used elsewhere.

It is, what it is.
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And what is going on? The one who is airing her displeasure (and who works for an LSU booster) has changed her story over the past week.
 
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bamawriter said:
And what is going on? The one who is airing her displeasure (and who works for an LSU booster) has changed her story over the past week.
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Look man, this is getting old. You are mad, the lady is telling the truth and the whole family wanted him in BR. He will sign with Bama tomorrow just like I said months ago before all this happened and for a reason. I can't wait so I don't have to hear about him again.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Look man, this is getting old. You are mad, the lady is telling the truth and the whole family wanted him in BR. He will sign with Bama tomorrow just like I said months ago before all this happened and for a reason. I can't wait so I don't have to hear about him again.
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1) I'm not mad.
2) No one makes you read threads re: Landon Collins.
3) No one makes you reply to those same threads.
4) You say she speaks the truth, I say she's lying. I've asked for some kind of back up for her/your claims, and your response has been continually to get butthurt, say it doesn't matter, say you're done discussing it and you're ready for it to be over. And then inevitably you post on the topic again.

Long story short: you know jack.
 
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bamawriter said:
1) I'm not mad.
2) No one makes you read threads re: Landon Collins.
3) No one makes you reply to those same threads.
4) You say she speaks the truth, I say she's lying. I've asked for some kind of back up for her/your claims, and your response has been continually to get butthurt, say it doesn't matter, say you're done discussing it and you're ready for it to be over. And then inevitably you post on the topic again.

Long story short: you know jack.
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You mad bro, it's all in your posts.

The family figured out exactly why Landon is going a long time ago. There is nothing to lie about. Actually if true it's not even a violation, but it is a tactic that is used. Of course, there is other stuff but really what's the point?
 
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#84
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bamawriter said:
1) I'm not mad.
2) No one makes you read threads re: Landon Collins.
3) No one makes you reply to those same threads.
4) You say she speaks the truth, I say she's lying. I've asked for some kind of back up for her/your claims, and your response has been continually to get butthurt, say it doesn't matter, say you're done discussing it and you're ready for it to be over. And then inevitably you post on the topic again.

Long story short: you know jack.
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Where is your information to back up your claims? I thought you were some kind of hack writer or something.
 
#85
#85
bamawriter said:
You know as much about my mood as you know about LC's recruitment.
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I am not the one being defensive. I can hear it now, "I am not being defensive!".

I'll be glad when I don't have to hear about this kid and his handler.
 
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volsfan75 said:
Where is your information to back up your claims? I thought you were some kind of hack writer or something.
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You can't provide evidence that something didn't happen, only that something else did that would have made the claim impossible. The burden of proof is on those who made the original claim.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I am not the one being defensive. I can hear it now, "I am not being defensive!".

I'll be glad when I don't have to hear about this kid and his handler.
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As many times as you've said this, I'm going to have to assume someone is holding a gun to your head and making you read/comment on this topic. Would you like me to call 911? I want to make sure you're okay.
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a “serial repeat violator” with an “abysmal infractions track record” and an “extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA,”
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I got your back on this one bama, seeing how you kind got your hands full atm.
While all of this may be true, bama a still does not have the most!
You're welcome, bama.
 
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bamawriter said:
You can't provide evidence that something didn't happen, only that something else did that would have made the claim impossible. The burden of proof is on those who made the original claim.
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You made the claim the offer was not made and that the Mom is lying, the burden is on you. Since you have no first hand knowledge and you only suspect the mom is lying without any evidence to the fact she is lying... kind of makes all our crap go out the window.

You can't provide evidence that something didn't happen
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Sure you can, I can take a picture of my living room that I use as evidence that there is no Elephant in the room at a specific time.

Actually, you have Collins mom, she said the girl was offered a job, her testimony could be in fact evidence that an agreement was made. How credible her testimony is would be again something someone would determine at a trial which this isn't. Like for instance, how does she know?

As far as the family, I would be very worried if I were them so I can't blame them. But at the end of the day, I am ready for all this stupid drama and her boyfriend to be over, tomorrow can't come soon enough.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You made the claim the offer was not made and that the Mom is lying, the burden is on you. Since you have no first hand knowledge and you only suspect the mom is lying without any evidence to the fact she is lying... kind of makes all our crap go out the window.
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By calling her a liar, I am saying that what she claims happened, in fact, did not. Since I can't prove something didn't happen, it's on you to offer some kind of proof since you're saying it did.

As to your elephant example: taking a picture doesn't prove there isn't an elephant in your living room. Maybe the elephant was standing behind you when you took the picture. Or maybe you photoshopped the elephant out. However, if I'm making the claim, it would actually be on me to produce some kind of proof of the elephant in your living room.

Applying that to Ms Justin, I have many, many reasons why I don't believe her claims. However, none of those reasons can totally rule out the possibility that she's telling the truth. But given how unlikely her claims are, I would be very interested to see someone give them even the tiniest amount of backup. Absent that, I'm convinced she's lying.
 
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bamawriter said:
Sorry that the facts got in your way.
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In its subsequent argu¬ments, Alabama took excep¬tion to the Committee on Infractions' claim that the school's "abysmal" and un¬precedented history of so many infractions cases justi¬fied vacating records. The Committee on Infractions described Alabama as a "se¬rial repeat violator."

What does unprecedented mean?
 
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bamawriter said:
By calling her a liar, I am saying that what she claims happened, in fact, did not. Since I can't prove something didn't happen, it's on you to offer some kind of proof since you're saying it did.
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You have no proof and yes you can in fact have evidence even when something does not exist as I gave you an example.

Evidence is evidence, evidence is not a determination. Testimony is in fact evidence or can be evidence. You don't even know what you are asking for when you ask for evidence, evidence doesn't have to be physical.

As to your elephant example: taking a picture doesn't prove there isn't an elephant in your living room. Maybe the elephant was standing behind you when you took the picture. Or maybe you photoshopped the elephant out. However, if I'm making the claim, it would actually be on me to produce some kind of proof of the elephant in your living room.
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Evidence never proves anything, people determine something based on evidence or lack of evidence. The picture in the example, is evidence, whether that evidence is enough is up to the eye of the beholder. The evidence in this case is Collin's mom.

Applying that to Ms Justin, I have many, many reasons why I don't believe her claims. However, none of those reasons can totally rule out the possibility that she's telling the truth. But given how unlikely her claims are, I would be very interested to see someone give them even the tiniest amount of backup. Absent that, I'm convinced she's lying.
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You have no evidence, you are basically suspecting based on nothing. She can provide testimony, you can not because you have no first hand knowledge.

She actually could have a case against you for slander since you called her a liar then you claim you have no evidence to support your position she has lied about anything.

You are not asking for evidence, what you are asking for is someone to change your mind.... I can't help you there.

HINT: There is more to this than just a job. Either way very tired of hearing about the handler and her boy.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You have no proof and yes you can in fact have evidence even when something does not exist as I gave you an example.

Evidence is evidence, evidence is not a determination. Testimony is in fact evidence or can be evidence. You don't even know what you are asking for when you ask for evidence, evidence doesn't have to be physical.
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This is true. But testimony requires corroboration. If this were in a courtroom, her testimony would be very weak evidence because it has no corroboration, and isn't even first hand information. It's hearsay at best.



True, but it is evidence. Evidence never proves anything, people determine something based on evidence or lack of evidence.
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That's sort of philosophical, but you're right. Ultimately, something is either "proven" or "disproven" based on an individual's personal understanding of the evidence. In this case, you are accepting hearsay testimony, from someone who has reason to lie, with no corroboration as "proof" and I need more than that to be convinced.


You have no evidence, you are basically suspecting based on nothing. She can provide testimony, you can not because you have no first hand knowledge.

She actually could have a case against you for slander.
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She has no first hand knowledge either.

And, no, she can't sue me for slander (actually it would be libel). For me to have libeled her, I would have had to make a statement that was knowingly false and malicious. If she were to claim that me calling her a liar is knowingly false, she'd have to prove what she said was true. If she can, she's yet to do so. Since I have many reasons to believe she's not telling the truth, and she hasn't proven that she is, calling her a liar isn't false in any way.
 
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