This is a painful thread to read (Please don't tell me to quit reading it, then!) I hope my Vol friends will place more emphasis on the "Kid" in Crimsonkid than on the crimson. A couple of years ago, when all this arose, 5 players were suspended for 4 games and the NCAA was notified. They also cleared the return of the 5 to game status when the suspension was over. If something else has been discovered, then the U of A must take responsibility for its actions, or lack of action, whichever. I would hate to see drastic penalties (death) on any football program - especially in the SEC, since I enjoy the games too much. Being well past the proverbial "threescore and ten" means I have been watching great football a long time. I refuse to use the word hate in the same sentence with any school, or group of young men who play for any school. Thanks for allowing me to be on your forum once in a while.