Bailey is the future.

[butchna]

QB’s that come in and beat out the current roster QBs are rare. I’m sure Bailey is good. Peyton, Lawrence, Fromm, etc. are a rare breed. It’s hard to do as good as Mauer honestly if he’s stayed healthy could’ve broke some freshman records here IMO. We will see.

Not that rare. Clausen, Ainge and Bray for us. Eric Zeir was the first true freshman QB I remember who enrolled early and started right out the bat for UGA. Fromm took over for Eason after an injury and he done the deed the season before. Jayden Daniels easily for Arizona State this season. JT Daniels last season for USC. The other USC has Tyler Hylinski who replaced a 3 year starter from his true freshman season in Jake Bentley. These are all from a non-Googling 50 year old mind. I’m sure MANY MANY more can be contributed by others. If JG exits (and I think he will), it’ll be open competition and Maurer really doesn’t have a formidable advantage in experience considering the games Maurer and Shrout have been able to participate. What’s been impressive about Maurer is the performance he’s produced from a raw skill set...almost force of will. Have to trust the staff will identify the right candidate

 

[tennrich1]

I keep reading this and its absolute garbage. Let's look at some career HS stats shall we

Bailey:
7247 yards
75 Tds
17 ints

Shrout:
3304 yards
29 Tds
29 ints

Maurer:
7693 yards
64 tds
35! Ints

Keep in mind Bailey has also played against superior competition

YES you are 100% correct. Our two current QBs listed had issues as well. IIRC HB had 5 in one game just a couple weeks back. HB has also PLAYED with superior talent!! I’m just concerned when we’ll meaning (I guess) fans insinuate that HB will set on campus next year SEC ready to assume the helm at QB. That really is the whole issue and you’re correct that we don’t have a 5* can’t miss QB on campus.

 

[1vol8]

That is not the only way. More "traditional" approach would be for Maurer, Shrout (or really any young QB) to keep developing those skills (decision making and situational football) over another year or two of practice. Given that we have highly skilled and experienced staff that could be a huge benefit long term.

I agree but there’s no substitute for game experience. Maybe instead of the word “only” I could’ve used the word “fastest”.

 

[TGVol]

I agree but there’s no substitute for game experience. Maybe instead of the word “only” I could’ve used the word “fastest”.

Sure, but I think we should trust that our highly capable staff can evaluate this on case by case basis. So if our coaches don't think Maurer and/or Shrout are more likely to help us win right now than JG there must be some good reason for that. They know football as well as our QB's far better than any of us on the forum (and their resumes say we should trust them to make the most optimal decisions).

 

[1vol8]

Sure, but I think we should trust that our highly capable staff can evaluate this on case by case basis. So if our coaches don't think Maurer and/or Shrout are more likely to help us win right now than JG there must be some good reason for that. They know football as well as our QB's far better than any of us on the forum (and their resumes say we should trust them to make the most optimal decisions).

I would agree with every word if we were talking coaches plural. But I think it’s clear we are not. We are talking coach singular that simply holds the higher title. That title doesn’t automatically equal experience with qbs. That’s what he hired one of the most proven OCs in the nation for. Judging by play calling depending on the qb it stands to reason that Chaney may feel differently than Pruitt.

 

[TGVol]

I would agree with every word if we were talking coaches plural. But I think it’s clear we are not. We are talking coach singular that simply holds the higher title. That title doesn’t automatically equal experience with qbs. That’s what he hired one of the most proven OCs in the nation for. Judging by play calling depending on the qb it stands to reason that Chaney may feel differently than Pruitt.

Well Pruitt was happy to hire Chaney so even if they are ocasionally disagreeing we should to assume they will work things out (because they are mature adults and they shoudl be occasionally agreeing to disagree, and not only those two but input from Tee Martin and other people on offensive staff should be baked in as well). Having said that, I have not seen any alarming evidence there is a disagreement about play calling going on?

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

This game confirms it for me. The staff clearly doesn't trust JT. Maurer is pretty good but cannot stay healthy. JG is JG. Good enough to get by, not good enough to beat good teams. I expect Harrison Bailey to come in and start as a true freshman and judging by the QB rotation tonight and last week, this staff does too. The announcers said Pruitt told them in the pre game meetings that JG is the best QB on the roster BY FAR. Either he was lying or.....Bailey will be the starter next year.

You're basing this on what? The play of a high school quarterback? Supposition of what a bunch of posters on a forum think is in Pruitt's head? The kid may not even attend UT.

 

[1vol8]

Well Pruitt was happy to hire Chaney so even if they are ocasionally disagreeing we should to assume they will work things out (because they are mature adults and they shoudl be occasionally agreeing to disagree, and not only those two but input from Tee Martin and other people on offensive staff should be baked in as well). Having said that, I have not seen any alarming evidence there is a disagreement about play calling going on?

There’s a real possibility (and I think maybe this could be it) that they are just taking it extremely careful with Maurer and there’s nothing to it other than the commentators quoting Pruitt on his previous opinion. I personally haven’t heard him say “JG is our best QBs and it’s not even close” since camp. So maybe (given the fact the commentators couldn’t even get the players names right) they were just talking nonsense.

As for the play calling, to me it’s clear that Chaney trusts Maurer more than any of them because of the aggressive nature he attacks with Maurer in the game. That’s what I meant.

 

[I40flyer]

This game confirms it for me. The staff clearly doesn't trust JT. Maurer is pretty good but cannot stay healthy. JG is JG. Good enough to get by, not good enough to beat good teams. I expect Harrison Bailey to come in and start as a true freshman and judging by the QB rotation tonight and last week, this staff does too. The announcers said Pruitt told them in the pre game meetings that JG is the best QB on the roster BY FAR. Either he was lying or.....Bailey will be the starter next year.

Lying? That is hard to say, When Pruitt said JG is the best QB on the roster BY FAR, I believe CP was telling the truth, at that moment, and I do not think the announcer was lying. Who is the best QB, is a dynamic question, it can change from game to game, even change during a game (starter gets concussion for example). ,if Bailey is as good as his press, and build-up, we may be far better off RS this young man. Remember, Peyton was RS, only injuries caused CF to call his number during his[Peyton's] first year. This guy, COACHED, could bring TN back from the crap situation we're in. A few months out of HS, is a lot different from one full year of Physical Conditioning, and learning the position etc. having too many QBs is a problem most teams would like to have. I just don't see all these guys sitting around, transfers are bound to be in the near future for some.

 

[Volhoops]

As long as our coaching staff (best in the country as far as I'm concerned) believes there is enough evidence to not play him more because of on the field evidence and/or practice sessions - does not matter - that's all I need to see.

"Best in the country", they are not best in the SEC yet. This is the same staff that said Maurer could not play and now everybody is clamoring for him to start. If they were wrong on Maurer why should you trust them on Shrout until there is enough IN GAME evidence to provide otherwise. They want to praise JG for practice but IN GAME evidence says he is barely adequate to be out there.

 

[I40flyer]

As long as our coaching staff (best in the country as far as I'm concerned) believes there is enough evidence to not play him more because of on the field evidence and/or practice sessions - does not matter - that's all I need to see.

"Best in the country", as long as that is, as you have stated, "as far as I'm concerned", who could argue with you? As far as your concerned you may like to put mustard on your Ice Cream-that is your business. But to state our coaching staff is the best in the country, without adding a caveat, I think that remains to be seen, maybe if we win our Div of the SEC, or the SEC or play for a NATY or WIN a NATY, I'd be a lot more likely to agree with you. The funny thing about coaching a team, you can have a lot of moral victories, numerous champions of life moments, but if you're posting Ls, only your mama, and those with a bad case of coach worship will place you on the highest pedestal in the land.

 

[I40flyer]

Most freshman come in with a list of things to improve on before taking the field. Maurers list consists of only 2 issues. Situational football and decision making. The only way to fix those 2 issues is experience and patience.

I'm behind Maurer, I think he's still suffering from an injury, he has tremendous potential, but so far as QBs are concerned, decision making is their stock and trade. I agree the only way to fix, or improve that skill is experience, not necessarily Game Day experience (although 100 hours of practice=1 hour of Game Day play), but high quality coaching, high quality practice(s), both of which are on the coaching staff to provide.

 

[k-town_king]

"Best in the country", they are not best in the SEC yet. This is the same staff that said Maurer could not play and now everybody is clamoring for him to start. If they were wrong on Maurer why should you trust them on Shrout until there is enough IN GAME evidence to provide otherwise. They want to praise JG for practice but IN GAME evidence says he is barely adequate to be out there.

The stats show they know what they are doing. JG has passed the ball much better. BM has potential but isn't ready yet.

 

[TGVol]

"Best in the country", as long as that is, as you have stated, "as far as I'm concerned", who could argue with you? As far as your concerned you may like to put mustard on your Ice Cream-that is your business. But to state our coaching staff is the best in the country, without adding a caveat, I think that remains to be seen, maybe if we win our Div of the SEC, or the SEC or play for a NATY or WIN a NATY, I'd be a lot more likely to agree with you. The funny thing about coaching a team, you can a lots of moral victories, numerous champions of life moments, but if you're posting Ls, only your mama, and those with a bad case of coach worship will place you on the highest pedestal in the land.

People on our current staff have won multiple NC's between them (as coaches, players, including our great NC winning coach/AD who hired them) so most of them are obviously extremely well regarded/proven football minds. It is true that Pruitt still has to prove himself as HC but most other people on the staff have been extremely succesfull at other places they coached (especially Chaney). Given that fact I actually didn't need to include any caveats (but I'm so nice I did it anyway to make people feel better) - but since you insist the honest truth is I don't care who agrees or not, with or without mustard (and especially on the forum like this which is loaded with ultra enthusiastic fans who like to imagine themselves as football gurus).

 

[I40flyer]

People on our current staff have won multiple NC's between them (as coaches, players, including our great NC winning coach/AD who hired them) so most of them are obviously extremely well regarded/proven football minds. It is true that Pruitt still has to prove himself as HC but most other people on the staff have been extremely succesfull at other places they coached (especially Chaney). Given that fact I actually didn't need to include any caveats (but I'm so nice I did it anyway to make people feel better) - but since you insist the honest truth is I don't care who agrees or not, with or without mustard (and especially on the forum like this which is loaded with ultra enthusiastic fans who like to imagine themselves as football gurus).

That settles it for me. They must be the best. The real question we should be asking, is , as we have the best football coaches in all of the NCAA, why aren't we extending these contracts, with a BIG PAY RAISE, while the getting is still good?

 

[1vol8]

The stats show they know what they are doing. JG has passed the ball much better. BM has potential but isn't ready yet.

Could not be farther than the truth. Had Maurer not been thrown to the wolves vs Florida with no preparation his stats that you love to hate on wouldn’t be so bad and you know it

 

[Mccage]

UAB is not good. Their opponents total w/l is 13-42..... if you think their top ten defensive ranking is something to worry about, you seriously don’t follow football.

So easy to spot the box score watchers and use that as an argument.

So yes, they are not a good team. They benefit from one of the easiest schedules in football. It’s easy to have a top ten defense when playing trash teams week in and week out.



But I’m the one who doesn’t understand football. Makes total sense.

JG didn't have much to do with us not running the ball but UAB's D did!

 

[TGVol]

That settles it for me. They must be the best. The real question we should be asking, is , as we have the best football coaches in all of the NCAA, why aren't we extending these contracts, with a BIG PAY RAISE, while the getting is still good?

Now you may be onto something. If we win the rest of the games this year that will probably have to be discussed. I wouldn't worry about that - Fulmer knows how this works and what he needs to do if/when the time is right.

 

[Mccage]

People were so worried about UAB because of their 6-1 record and top ten national defense.

They played trash teams and their defense was and is highly overrated.

They were a practice squad at best

So there practice squads tackle took our 5 star tackle to school? Their nose tackle and Marino will play on sunday,pretty good for a practice squad.

 

[Volhoops]

Could not be farther than the truth. Had Maurer not been thrown to the wolves vs Florida with no preparation his stats that you love to hate on wouldn’t be so bad and you know it

BM as a true freshman as already a much better QB than JG. Hide behind your stats but anybody watching the games clearly sees that either freshman when playing is a much better QB than JG in his fourth year. JG is so bad they now have to wildcat the offense in the red zone to get points. At minimum they try and get the ball out of his hands. I'd take a few mistakes by freshman vs watching a fourth year QB keep making the same mistakes over and over.

 

[GAVol]

JG didn't have much to do with us not running the ball but UAB's D did!

There were definitely a few times when he failed to get us in the right play.

 

[k-town_king]

Could not be farther than the truth. Had Maurer not been thrown to the wolves vs Florida with no preparation his stats that you love to hate on wouldn’t be so bad and you know it

0 tds 3 ints vs Bama and MSU.

Also if he were ready, playing him wouldn't mean "throwing him to the wolves." I guess you agree he wasn't ready.

He still isn't. He gave a brief spark. Threw a TD on a great move by the wr who was wide open and threw one good td. Then has 0 tds and 4 interested since.

He has good potential though.

 

[TGVol]

Hide behind your stats but anybody watching the games clearly sees that either freshman when playing is a much better QB than JG in his fourth year.

Based on the evidence from most recent games our coaches (the only people who matter) clearly don't agree that Shrout is better than JG at this point.

 

[1vol8]

BM as a true freshman as already a much better QB than JG. Hide behind your stats but anybody watching the games clearly sees that either freshman when playing is a much better QB than JG in his fourth year. JG is so bad they now have to wildcat the offense in the red zone to get points. At minimum they try and get the ball out of his hands. I'd take a few mistakes by freshman vs watching a fourth year QB keep making the same mistakes over and over.

I’m 100% with you and twice on Sunday. If i were Pruitt I would give Maurer the leash he gave JG because his playing style is extremely hard to defend. Imagine him as a junior! He’s a true “pick your poison” type of qb which is rare. Very few duel threat qbs can make you pay consistently through the air. Very few pocket passers can make you pay on the ground. Maurer can do both. So what do you do as a defense? Blitz? Then he either gets away or throws over it. Play coverage? He picks you apart in tight windows.
These stat junkies get on my nerves. Notice when they criticize him they leave out rushing yards? 3rd down conversations? Strength of opponents? Play calling? Makes you wonder why. It’s because they could care less about the overall success of UT. They just want THEIR guy.

 

[GAVol]

I’m 100% with you and twice on Sunday. If i were Pruitt I would give Maurer the leash he gave JG because his playing style is extremely hard to defend. Imagine him as a junior! He’s a true “pick your poison” type of qb which is rare. Very few duel threat qbs can make you pay consistently through the air. Very few pocket passers can make you pay on the ground. Maurer can do both. So what do you do as a defense? Blitz? Then he either gets away or throws over it. Play coverage? He picks you apart in tight windows.
These stat junkies get on my nerves. Notice when they criticize him they leave out rushing yards? 3rd down conversations? Strength of opponents? Play calling? Makes you wonder why. It’s because they could care less about the overall success of UT. They just want THEIR guy.

Thank goodness you don't have a guy lol.