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#61
#61
obviously a hug vol fan, but I liked what I saw from Wisconsin. Def a tournament team and maybe even a ranked team at some point this season.
 
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Lankykong said:
Enjoyed the analysis, hadn’t heard that points off turnovers was flawed
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That's a conclusion we drew a couple of years ago. What is the difference between scoring after the opposing team travels and scoring after securing a defensive rebound? Or even after a made basket? We say there isn't any. It's just a normal change of possession. Now, live-ball steals might lead to easy transition opportunities, and that is different, but I've never seen a main-stream box score keep track of those (plus, some of those transition opportunities happen in non-steal situations, too).

We also view assists as less meaningful for a couple of reasons. First, it is dependent on the official scorer more than other stats. There's been some stats done on this - certain schools have much more generous assist-giving scorers than others. The home and away assist numbers for say, Minnesota, are very different. Second, what is the difference between a basket scored with an assist and one that isn't? Third, you don't get an assist for a great pass that leads to a missed shot. There are people who like assists anyway, so I will acknowledge that this is only my strongly held opinion and others see it differently.
 
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Formerlybis said:
That's a conclusion we drew a couple of years ago. What is the difference between scoring after the opposing team travels and scoring after securing a defensive rebound? Or even after a made basket? We say there isn't any. It's just a normal change of possession. Now, live-ball steals might lead to easy transition opportunities, and that is different, but I've never seen a main-stream box score keep track of those (plus, some of those transition opportunities happen in non-steal situations, too).

We also view assists as less meaningful for a couple of reasons. First, it is dependent on the official scorer more than other stats. There's been some stats done on this - certain schools have much more generous assist-giving scorers than others. The home and away assist numbers for say, Minnesota, are very different. Second, what is the difference between a basket scored with an assist and one that isn't? Third, you don't get an assist for a great pass that leads to a missed shot. There are people who like assists anyway, so I will acknowledge that this is only my strongly held opinion and others see it differently.
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Fantastic analysis.
 
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#66
#66
I was impressed with Wisconsin. They played very well and have some very good
playmakers. They tired at the end and seemed to be out of shape relative to UT.
They appear to be a top 12-15 team to me.

For the first time I feel Barnes has the quality depth that there will not be a dropoff
when substituting at any position. I feel more confident in the post presence after
watching the Mich st and Wisc games and seeing the progress that Aidoo and Awaka
have shown and seeing the potential of Philips. JJJ has even progressed, but that is to
be expected of a 5* in his 5th or 6th season. I see no weakness other than a very
slight dip in the pg play when ZZ is out.

I stand by my prediction of 26 wins from this team (of course I also predicted the football team to go 9-3)
 
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Formerlybis said:
That's a conclusion we drew a couple of years ago. What is the difference between scoring after the opposing team travels and scoring after securing a defensive rebound? Or even after a made basket? We say there isn't any. It's just a normal change of possession. Now, live-ball steals might lead to easy transition opportunities, and that is different, but I've never seen a main-stream box score keep track of those (plus, some of those transition opportunities happen in non-steal situations, too).

We also view assists as less meaningful for a couple of reasons. First, it is dependent on the official scorer more than other stats. There's been some stats done on this - certain schools have much more generous assist-giving scorers than others. The home and away assist numbers for say, Minnesota, are very different. Second, what is the difference between a basket scored with an assist and one that isn't? Third, you don't get an assist for a great pass that leads to a missed shot. There are people who like assists anyway, so I will acknowledge that this is only my strongly held opinion and others see it differently.
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Impressed with your roster and IMO you guys will fare well in Big 10 games..Heck, if you guys win HALF of the close ones last year I'm sure this years' team would be Big Dance experienced and much tougher for postseason play, NIT games aside.. But thanks for the civil exchange and hopefully you guys and the Vols will meet again......In the Final Four (wink wink)
 
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