Backgammon championship

#31
#31
Vercingetorix said:
Don't worry, backup catchers don't matter. Even when you know ahead of time that the starter is going to miss 20 percent of the season.
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That was the most egregious thing about it. Not like the Braves didn't know Mac would miss April.
 
#32
#32
GreatWhiteNorth said:
I didn't realize you were actually going to launch this thread. Forgive me for ever doubting.
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I'm just here to talk about the inexplicable doubling cube. Anything else is superfluous.

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#33
#33
I'm a big fan of Gus Hansen in backgammon. He bleeds money against high stakes poker pros, but actually has a few championships to his name in backgammon.
 
#34
#34
Vercingetorix said:
Don't worry, backup catchers don't matter. Even when you know ahead of time that the starter is going to miss 20 percent of the season.
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We could have been sitting pretty with David Ross right now. Pisses me off. Over what...a couple million bucks? Cripes.
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#37
#37
Freak said:
So, catch me up here. What's the catcher debate?
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The Braves let David Ross, widely regarded as the best backup catcher in baseball, walk to the Red Sox this offseason. They signed Laird to replace him. Total savings was about $2 million. That they never actually ended up spending on anything else.

Almost everyone in the Braves thread foamed at the mouth over this. Brown thinks it's stupid because backup catchers don't matter. Even when you know ahead of time that the starter is going to miss at least a month.

Thank $DEITY for Evan Gattis.
 
#38
#38
Freak said:
So, bring me up to speed here. What's the catcher debate?
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We let David Ross, who played well in substantial time backing up McCann, walk over a few million dollars only to sign this chach Laird who apparently can neither hit nor throw out base runners. All until McCann gets healthy for what will undoubtedly amount to about 3 weeks worth of playing time before he's back on the DL again.
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#39
#39
Vercingetorix said:
The Braves let David Ross, widely regarded as the best backup catcher in baseball, walk to the Red Sox this offseason. They signed Laird to replace him. Total savings was about $2 million. That they never actually ended up spending on anything else.

Almost everyone in the Braves thread foamed at the mouth over this. Brown thinks it's stupid because backup catchers don't matter. Even when you know ahead of time that the starter is going to miss at least a month.
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What's the thought on Gattis? Strong bat but defensive liability?
 
#40
#40
Freak said:
So, bring me up to speed here. What's the catcher debate?
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David Ross wanted a two year deal and a decent chunk of change. But he deserved it. However, the Braves have become an organization based on "value". Yeah, paying $8M for a backup catcher seems bad, but when you have the best one in the game and your catcher is going to miss six months of shoulder surgery, you pay him. Instead, Atlanta thought it wasn't "high value" to pay Ross that much, and got Laird for half that. Laird sucks. Sure, in the grand scheme of things, a backup catcher isn't that important. But in this case, it's the principle.
 
#41
#41
Freak said:
What's the thought on Gattis? Strong bat but defensive liability?
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Liability is a strong word. I'd say barely average.

See, the thing with Gattis is he definitely has talent...but who the hell knows where is ceiling is? He's always been older for his group.
 
#42
#42
And there you have three different, yet the same, accounts of the catcher situation in Atlanta.
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#43
#43
zjcvols said:
David Ross wanted a two year deal and a decent chunk of change. But he deserved it. However, the Braves have become an organization based on "value". Yeah, paying $8M for a backup catcher seems bad, but when you have the best one in the game and your catcher is going to miss six months of shoulder surgery, you pay him. Instead, Atlanta thought it wasn't "high value" to pay Ross that much, and got Laird for half that. Laird sucks. Sure, in the grand scheme of things, a backup catcher isn't that important. But in this case, it's the principle.
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Has anyone done an offensive comparison between the two? I'm not familiar ith Laird at all. How bad is he?
 
#44
#44
Freak said:
What's the thought on Gattis? Strong bat but defensive liability?
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That's the book on him. I sort of think he needs to be playing every day in AAA right now to figure out whether he can catch well enough to replace McCann next year. That's the only possible spot for him now after the J Upton trade.
 
#45
#45
Freak said:
Has anyone done an offensive comparison between the two? I'm not familiar ith Laird at all. How bad is he?
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Last four years comparison

Ross slash line: .269/.353/.463

Laird slash line: .231/.299/.329

And Ross is a much better defensive catcher
 
#46
#46
zjcvols said:
Liability is a strong word. I'd say barely average.

See, the thing with Gattis is he definitely has talent...but who the hell knows where is ceiling is? He's always been older for his group.
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I saw an interview with Uggla yesterday and he talked like Gattis may be one of the best hitters on the team. Is he just pumping up the rookie? What's the book on this kid?
 
#47
#47
Vercingetorix said:
That's the book on him. I sort of think he needs to be playing every day in AAA right now to figure out whether he can catch well enough to replace McCann next year. That's the only possible spot for him now after the J Upton trade.
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Which makes me think he could end up as part of a trade at the deadline...
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#49
#49
Freak said:
I saw an interview with Uggla yesterday and he talked like Gattis may be one of the best hitters on the team. Is he just pumping up the rookie? What's the book on this kid?
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He had a hell of a spring. Good power numbers.
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#50
#50
Freak said:
I saw an interview with Uggla yesterday and he talked like Gattis may be one of the best hitters on the team. Is he just pumping up the rookie? What's the book on this kid?
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He has monster power. He's a legit 6'4/240. That much is evident. He has a good walk rate. I mean, you aren't ****ing around when you slug .574 in the minors.

Can he make adjustments? Who knows? That's the question with every rookie. It's obvious Gattis has a MLB starting bat...in a perfect world, he'd be a perfect 1B/C/DH for an AL team. Think Mike Napoli. That's probably the best comparison. The problem is two of those three spots are filled, and he hasn't proven he can handle everyday catching duties.
 
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