Automatic Win For The Vols?

#51
#51
tvolsfan said:
A lot of teams could have won. That team was simply bad.

Agreed. I don't really remember it, but it seems like that UT team was one of the best in the country. Maybe the best after Florida.
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Yeah they were easily a top 5 team that year.
 
#53
#53
Barring injuries we will do just fine. After facing down and possibly beating UF in Gainesville we should have no trouble with UB. They were ascending with Turner Gill at the helm, but he's been gone more than a year now and they have gotten progressively worse since he left.
 
#56
#56
lylsmorr said:
I thought you were arguing a different point. I agree.
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I guess the point I was making was after the firing it deflated the team which it could do to the best of teams but it was fulmers responsibility to get the team motivated to play. I mean we defeated 2 pretty decent bowl bound teams the next 2weeks
 
#57
#57
manfromtn said:
November 9th, 1996.
November 8th, 2008.

There is no such thing as an automatic win. That being said, I do believe our second and third string will see most of the minutes in the second half.
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I would think by now they all of would know there are no such things as automatic wins.
I remember people on this board were writing the UCLA game in Knoxville a few years was automatic, and the one in California.

We beat UAB by the skin of our teeth last year.
Like wise we beat LSU and NC but didn't get the W's.

Definately no such thing as an automatic anything anymore.
 
#59
#59
tvolsfan said:
Even if it was, who cares? The fact that the program had fallen so far was enough to fire him anyways. It wouldn't matte if we beat Wyoming by 50. Gibbs is just living in his little fantasy world where Fulmer is still a good coach.
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Would have been playing in the SECCG last December, but yeah, who cares????

Instead we got Kiffin and 6 - 7. This is what "moving in the right direction" looks like.

To :crazy: s

I like Dooley, but he has to hit it this year in his recruiting class. I think he can, and for now, I believe in "systems and structures." But, I do feel it has to deliver this year or it will not be forthcoming.
 
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#60
#60
utgibbs said:
Would have been playing in the SECCG last December, but yeah, who cares????

Instead we got Kiffin and 6 - 7. This is what "moving in the right direction" looks like.

To :crazy: s

I like Dooley, but he has to hit it this year in his recruiting class. I think he can, and for now, I believe in "systems and structures." But, I do feel it has to deliver this year or it will not be forthcoming.
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Sure. It's not as if he had a losing record against the three head coaches that finished ahead of Tennessee last year. It's super safe to assume he'd have won the division.
 
#61
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strongtower said:
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Wyoming, don't want to make an excuse but not many teams would of won after their head coach firing. Hard to get motivated after that

Memphis on other hand was a complete shock.
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Ridiculous. Tennessee should have to play one quarter of good football to dispatch a team as terrible as Wyoming. Instead, we trotted out the same offense that did more harm than good, and handed them all their points. As was the custom for that season, we lost even though our defense played well.

You might also recall that Wyoming's head man was on the chopping block and everyone on their team knew it.
 
#62
#62
kptvol said:
Ridiculous. Tennessee should have to play one quarter of good football to dispatch a team as terrible as Wyoming. Instead, we trotted out the same offense that did more harm than good, and handed them all their points. As was the custom for that season, we lost even though our defense played well.

You might also recall that Wyoming's head man was on the chopping block and everyone on their team knew it.
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What was he to do at that point?
 
#63
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gnm53108 said:
What was he to do at that point?
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Didn't matter much at that point. The time to fix it was long over. However, the high school offense used against Vandy and Kentucky would have definitely given us a better shot to win. But that doesn't matter. The point is, the abysmal offensive performance that handed the mighty Cowboys of Wyoming a victory was not unique for that season. Every game went just like that.
 
#64
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kptvol said:
Didn't matter much at that point. The time to fix it was long over. However, the high school offense used against Vandy and Kentucky would have definitely given us a better shot to win. But that doesn't matter. The point is, the abysmal offensive performance that handed the mighty Cowboys of Wyoming a victory was not unique for that season. Every game went just like that.
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The 06 and 07 squads were pretty good.
 
#65
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gnm53108 said:
The 06 and 07 squads were pretty good.
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Ok. That guy said we lost to Wyoming in 2008 because Phil was fired. I provided evidence to the contrary. Not sure what the two seasons prior with a different offensive coordinator have to do with anything.
 
#66
#66
kptvol said:
Ok. That guy said we lost to Wyoming in 2008 because Phil was fired. I provided evidence to the contrary. Not sure what the two seasons prior with a different offensive coordinator have to do with anything.
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Sorry.I was answering this quote... "The point is, the abysmal offensive performance that handed the mighty Cowboys of Wyoming a victory was not unique for that season."

And I agree.We didnt lose to wyoming because Coach Fulmer was fired.It did however take the wind out of the sails of a team that was already in TOTAL disaray.
 
#67
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gnm53108 said:
Sorry.I was answering this quote... "The point is, the abysmal offensive performance that handed the mighty Cowboys of Wyoming a victory was not unique for that season."
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What I meant was that the Wyoming game wasn't unique for the 2008 season.

gnm53108 said:
And I agree.We didnt lose to wyoming because Coach Fulmer was fired.It did however take the wind out of the sails of a team that was already in TOTAL disaray.
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Go watch the replay of the week prior against South Carolina. The wind was long gone from the sails.
 
#68
#68
Go watch the replay of the week prior against South Carolina. The wind was long gone from the sails.[/QUOTE]

No thank you.It hurts enough just talking about that season from memory....That season could be put into a "my wife gone n left me,dog done died,truck caught on fire" country song.

I'd probably go insearch of a tall tree and a short rope.
 
#69
#69
utgibbs said:
Would have been playing in the SECCG last December, but yeah, who cares????

Instead we got Kiffin and 6 - 7. This is what "moving in the right direction" looks like.

To :crazy: s

I like Dooley, but he has to hit it this year in his recruiting class. I think he can, and for now, I believe in "systems and structures." But, I do feel it has to deliver this year or it will not be forthcoming.
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So we would of went to the championship with Simms at the helm :crazy:
Or a freshman qb in bray :eek:k:
 
#70
#70
kptvol said:
Ok. That guy said we lost to Wyoming in 2008 because Phil was fired. I provided evidence to the contrary. Not sure what the two seasons prior with a different offensive coordinator have to do with anything.
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No if you read all of my posts on this thread I said after fulmer was fired it deflated our team but it was fulmers fault for not getting them ready for the game. That game was lost to piss poor game planning and offense planning was part of it.
 
#71
#71
strongtower said:
No if you read all of my posts on this thread I said after fulmer was fired it deflated our team but it was fulmers fault for not getting them ready for the game. That game was lost to piss poor game planning and offense planning was part of it.
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It seems we remember the unravelling of that season about the same except...there was offensive planning?

I must've drank alittle more than you.I dont remember ANY offensive planning.
 
#72
#72
Oh, there was planning. They were "watchin the film and workin like heck." But, as John Lennon said: "Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans."
 
#74
#74
Nothing is automatic, but I'm hoping the team thinks the same way. We need any advantage we can get! Somehow though, I know that wont be the case.

A FCS team has beat a SEC school in the past, albeit a 2004 3-8 MSU team. Maine beat them that year 9-7, a week after Maine loss to the Grizzlies that year!

Should be a great game - automatic or not.
 
#75
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Ordigger said:
Nothing is automatic, but I'm hoping the team thinks the same way. We need any advantage we can get! Somehow though, I know that wont be the case.

A FCS team has beat a SEC school in the past, albeit a 2004 3-8 MSU team. Maine beat them that year 9-7, a week after Maine loss to the Grizzlies that year!

Should be a great game - automatic or not.
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More recent history would be Jacksonville State over Ole Miss in 2010 49-48 in double OT.

The odds are very much against Montana, but it is definately not "automatic."
 
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