Austin Rogers

#51
#51
To me this is the same thing as assuming that a black QB is a scrambler. It's not fair to the player to put them into that mold. Would we be having this conversation if his name was Ja'Austin? I really don't think we would. However, I would still say that he occasionally gets a case of the dropsies.
 
#52
#52
I'm not too sure on this one. Rogers never has had much hype associated with his play but most of his numbers were ranked 2nd on the team. Given that we had a 1000yd receiver that's not too bad.

However, the talent in the younger guys started to shine later in the year. We need big play guys on the field. Guy's that are capable of taking a crossing pattern to the house. I don't think Austin is that guy. With Clawson coming in and the young guys having a year on the field and in the weight room I think Rogers may see his PT decrease quite a bit. I don't think he will start.
 
#53
#53
Gorilla33 said:
To me this is the same thing as assuming that a black QB is a scrambler. It's not fair to the player to put them into that mold. Would we be having this conversation if his name was Ja'Austin? I really don't think we would. However, I would still say that he occasionally gets a case of the dropsies.
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Dude really? It's not because he's white just the other WRs are better. That's the bottom line. He's good enough for 4th because he's better than Hancock. But the top 3 are so obvious
 
#54
#54
VolsByNature said:
Dude really? It's not because he's white just the other WRs are better. That's the bottom line. He's good enough for 4th because he's better than Hancock. But the top 3 are so obvious
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I don't disagree, I'm only commenting on the "possession reciever" label.
 
#55
#55
Gorilla33 said:
To me this is the same thing as assuming that a black QB is a scrambler. It's not fair to the player to put them into that mold. Would we be having this conversation if his name was Ja'Austin? I really don't think we would. However, I would still say that he occasionally gets a case of the dropsies.
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I agree people at work with are always saying he is too slow to. He has been clocked at 4.4 multiple times thats faster than Briscoe and Taylor. I dont think he is going to catch it make 3 guys miss and run into the endzone all that often. But he nice over the middle and on bubble screens. My only beef with the kid is that he had some costly drops. You can also attribute that to being a young WR coming off a RS season.
Look at UGA WR's they are all black, big, fast, atheletic, and 5 stars and they cant catch a cold. Give me Rogers over Massoqui anyday.
 
#56
#56
velovol said:
I agree people at work with are always saying he is too slow to. He has been clocked at 4.4 multiple times thats faster than Briscoe and Taylor. I dont think he is going to catch it make 3 guys miss and run into the endzone all that often. But he nice over the middle and on bubble screens. My only beef with the kid is that he had some costly drops. You can also attribute that to being a young WR coming off a RS season.
Look at UGA WR's they are all black, big, fast, atheletic, and 5 stars and they cant catch a cold. Give me Rogers over Massoqui anyday.
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As much as I hate to say it I would take Massoqui over Rogers simpily b/c of the height difference. I think if you put Austin in the slot to the short side of the field and had him run a drag route, he would be open more often than not. But he's deffinately our 3rd receiver at best.
 
#57
#57
Maybe i was reaching to make a point. hate to see the kid get such scrutinized because of the obvious.
 
#58
#58
Rogers was a sophomore with over 50 catches and over 500 yards receiving. He runs a 4.40. He really didn't drop very many balls. They were just at memorable times, such as against Florida on key downs. He was playing sick.

It's funny, someone wrote an article about reverse discrimination last year, and it revolved around Austin Rogers.

It says more about the observer if a guy doesn't "look like a 4.40 receiver" when he IS one.

Scout.com: Rogers' drops worry fans
 
#59
#59
IPorange said:
Rogers was a sophomore with over 50 catches and over 500 yards receiving. He runs a 4.40. He really didn't drop very many balls. They were just at memorable times, such as against Florida on key downs. He was playing sick.

It's funny, someone wrote an article about reverse discrimination last year, and it revolved around Austin Rogers.

It says more about the observer if a guy doesn't "look like a 4.40 receiver" when he IS one.

Scout.com: Rogers' drops worry fans
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Kind of like Arian and fumbles. Like in bowl games. On the game tying drive. Ugh.
 
#60
#60
I like Rogers, but we have 2 better possession receivers in Briscoe and Taylor. Then we have 2 deep threats in Moore and Paige, then we have a wr who can do everything in jones. I'll take those 5 then Rogers. You know you'll never see a route with Rogers going past 10 yards. At least the other possesion wrs you will once in a while.
 
#61
#61
I think Rogers sometimes looks a step slow is he runs after a catch like a TE..He does'nt seem to try and avoid contact and he seems pretty tough, he took some big hits last year and popped up, that can over a game work on a defenses will to win.
 
#62
#62
What is the fuss over Briscoe? Rogers has outperformed per game wise.
Briscoe 37 games 65 catches 7 td 10.6 ypc
Rogers 26 games 62 catches 4 td’s 11.5 ypc
Nothing against Briscoe but Rogers has earned playing time. He is also a great blocking WR.
I will admit however, I have never paid attention to Briscoes blocking.
 
#63
#63
Depends on your definition of primary. If Rogers runs the proper routes and catches the football he will get passes thrown his way. If Crompton develops confidence in the fact that Rogers is going to be where he's supposed to be, he will get mucho playing time. I'll take a slower receiver who has great hands and runs the routes over speed and brick-hands anyday.
 
#64
#64
VolsByNature said:
I just think we got too much talent at WR to put Rogers as a primary. Not taking anything away from him, he's just not a starter to me.

1. Taylor
2. Jones
3. Briscoe

But I could be wrong

Huff a puff and snuggle rough (im going to google that to see if it shows)
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I agree with this, except Briscoe might be replaced by Rogers. It is going to be interesting. Lucas Taylor will be a starter, and I think Gerald Jones has to be out there as much as possible. Everyone thinks Briscoe will be 3rd and then Rogers. I am not convinced it won't be the other way around.

Then you have D. Moore who I think will be really good this year. Then Paige and Hancock who Fulmer talked about was impressive in the spring.

I guess it is a good problem to have. I just dont see Gerald Jones not starting with his playmaking abilties. The question is, who will be the odd man out?
 
#65
#65
Yeah Rogers runs a 4.4 40 but he isn't as quick as Taylor or Jones. Or at least he doesn't play like it. I like Taylor, Jones, and Briscoe as our main three guys this year. And I pick Briscoe as the third guy because he has height, is very smart, and he is a good route runner. Not to mention, he came on strong at the end of last year. I think Rogers will be the fourth guy at the start of the year but he may be passed by Moore or somebody else by November.
 
#66
#66
quick or not, he may run a 4.4 on a track but there is no way he is that fast on the field. When you play in the SEC running a streak down the field in a straight line even at 4.4 is not good enough. He comes out of his stance slow, his cuts in his routes are too slow to be a first or second option on a ballclub such as UT's. Yeah, he is a good blocker, thats great put him in when you need Foster to get to the corner. Although I disagree with the comment he had more drops than catches on third down, everyone has drops...he will do fine as a 3rd, 4th reciever in Clawsons offense.
 
#67
#67
tennisguy said:
I agree with this, except Briscoe might be replaced by Rogers. It is going to be interesting. Lucas Taylor will be a starter, and I think Gerald Jones has to be out there as much as possible. Everyone thinks Briscoe will be 3rd and then Rogers. I am not convinced it won't be the other way around.

Then you have D. Moore who I think will be really good this year. Then Paige and Hancock who Fulmer talked about was impressive in the spring.

I guess it is a good problem to have. I just dont see Gerald Jones not starting with his playmaking abilties. The question is, who will be the odd man out?
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Yeah, it's not a bad problem to have. At least we know we have the talent all the way around in case of injuries, fatigue, etc. so we have some very good replacements.

To me Briscoe just looks better playing that Rogers, Briscoe has great hands, runs his routes clean, I don't know it will be interesting to see on gameday
 
#68
#68
zjcvols said:
I like Rogers, but we have 2 better possession receivers in Briscoe and Taylor. Then we have 2 deep threats in Moore and Paige, then we have a wr who can do everything in jones. I'll take those 5 then Rogers. You know you'll never see a route with Rogers going past 10 yards. At least the other possesion wrs you will once in a while.
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Moore caught a deep ball in the Orange and White game and Paige hasn't even played yet. Yet, their much better than Rogers who caught 50 plus balls last year.
 
#69
#69
taylor looks like the number 1 guy this year at wr... but jones is gonna be the sparkplug for the offense and the most dangerous of the receivers
look out for the g-gun formation.. it could be a huge weapon
 
#70
#70
Wouldnt it be cool to see G.Jones and Crompton in the backfield together and run the option every once in a while. Pull that out against florida and see how they handle it.:dance2:
 
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#74
#74
Rogers plays hard and is a tough kid with a lot of heart but talent wise he needs improvement. He is way to up and down! He had some great catches and took some big hits but he also dropped a lot of passes he should have caught. If someone shows to be more consistent then he is then he will lose that starting spot. He will be the starter but not for long, we have to many players who need to be on the field other than Austin Rogers.
 
#75
#75
Can someone tell me which WRs deserve more PT than Austin? He will and SHOULD be a starter.
 
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