Auburn moving faster?

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gasguy98

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I see there is an article on Auburns fast move in righting the ship that was a disal 2008 for them (I can't read it). Judging from the scores they are winning by it seems that they are farther along than we are.

Anyone know why the seem to be in better shape than we do? I have heard their QB is average but obviously superior to Crompton.

Is their apparent transformation mainly due to better QB play? Is there more than just this?
 
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I think it has more to do with the talent Tuberville left behind. Fulmer didn't leave us a whole lot.
 
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I would say that the Vol's problems come from our qb play and the staff's struggle to find something productive the qb can do. I honestly feel like our coaching staff has been having to pull double duty on game day. Not only do they have to coach against the other team, they also have to play hit and miss searching for something that Crompton can do successfully and consistently. It would be a lot different if the staff had just a reliable qb that could simply manage a game and give the opposition something to have to consider with the passing game. As it stands, the other team dares, or more likely hopes Crompton throws the ball.
 
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Volsfan895 said:
I think it has more to do with the talent Tuberville left behind. Fulmer didn't leave us a whole lot.
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You are obviously right. If we had a consistent QB we would be 4-0. Stephens must be either worse than Crompton or the same. It is obvious that our talent had fallen off for some years as was the suspision. Thanks Phil. He can be as P.O.'d as he wants to be (As he has said.) He can only blame himself. It looks as if we will have to suffer at least one more year before this thing get really turned around.
 
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Auburn has also not played on the road yet this year. It makes a slight difference. haven't really played any superior defenses. 3rd in the nation in offense averaging like 500 yrds... 260 passing per game compared to our 150ish maybe more towards 180... but far superior offense play than us. Todd has 11 tds and one pick... crompton 7 tds 8 ints... and Tate & McCalebb rushing game has been good.. comparable to ours but just those two explosive players. But, they have played louisiana tech (1-2), Miss State (2-2) and honestly vandy and jackson state not two great wins, good for a new offense there... West Virginia their only somewhat big win.. they 2-1. but have not played anyone primetime yet. and last week ball state 0-4 who lost to Army.. numbers look nice but haven't had a d challenge yet... just sayin may be wrong
 
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eb=pain said:
Auburn has also not played on the road yet this year. It makes a slight difference. haven't really played any superior defenses. 3rd in the nation in offense averaging like 500 yrds... 260 passing per game compared to our 150ish maybe more towards 180... but far superior offense play than us. Todd has 11 tds and one pick... crompton 7 tds 8 ints... and Tate & McCalebb rushing game has been good.. comparable to ours but just those two explosive players. But, they have played louisiana tech (1-2), Miss State (2-2) and honestly vandy and jackson state not two great wins, good for a new offense there... West Virginia their only somewhat big win.. they 2-1. but have not played anyone primetime yet. and last week ball state 0-4 who lost to Army.. numbers look nice but haven't had a d challenge yet... just sayin may be wrong
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I'm great with you beating down Auburn's schedule thus far, but why you gotta throw Army under the bus in so doing?
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm great with you beating down Auburn's schedule thus far, but why you gotta throw Army under the bus in so doing?
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Thats my bad, not meaning to throw them under. No hate for army had a buddy play there. i retract my army statement... Ball State lost to New Hampshire... replace.. ha:hi:
 
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What's sad is the progress you have seen AU's QB make, and the lack of from ours.
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Voldaddy said:
What's sad is the progress you have seen AU's QB make, and the lack of from ours.
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I don't think Crompton would be any better if he played for Auburn, but yes it is sad to see Crompton be so bad.
 
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yea i think this is pretty obvious where our lack of progress comes from (QB).
If Auburn blows us out, then yea somethings going on. But if they beat us 13-6 after we turn the ball over 4 times in our own half, well then we'll know how we each stand
 
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we just have to put hope that crompton can throw it to the right team... need a 300 + run game
 
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At this point, there appears to be at least some difference in the QB play between Todd and Crompton - but I'm not exactly sure of the reason(s)... Maybe you guys have seen better defenses that we have to date... I'm waiting to see how Todd performs against a quality D.
 
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Volsfan895 said:
I think it has more to do with the talent Tuberville left behind. Fulmer didn't leave us a whole lot.
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Remember they also flirted with the spread O a couple of years ago and recruited strongly for it. Malzahn now has players who were recruited to run something pretty similar to his O with some experience.

It also goes to their competition. WVU isn't great this year and more than likely won't come close to winning the Big Easy. They struggled with Liberty and a down ECU team before battling with Auburn. WVU had their highest point total of the year against Auburn.

Their other opponents have been Ball State (0-4) with losses to N Texas, Army, and New Hampshire (who even knew they had a team @ NH?). LaTech with a loss to Navy and a win over Nichols State. And finally Miss St (2-2) who appears to be pretty much what they've been... a game team that finds a way to lose.

I'd be pretty willing to wager that UT could easily be 4-0 against that schedule.
 
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Todd is probably like most young QBs. He could improve with good coaching. Crompton is maxed out IMO. Think he has been that way for some time too. Sure hope we can somehow win this game!
 
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sjt18 said:
Remember they also flirted with the spread O a couple of years ago and recruited strongly for it. Malzahn now has players who were recruited to run something pretty similar to his O with some experience.

It also goes to their competition. WVU isn't great this year and more than likely won't come close to winning the Big Easy. They struggled with Liberty and a down ECU team before battling with Auburn. WVU had their highest point total of the year against Auburn.

Their other opponents have been Ball State (0-4) with losses to N Texas, Army, and New Hampshire (who even knew they had a team @ NH?). LaTech with a loss to Navy and a win over Nichols State. And finally Miss St (2-2) who appears to be pretty much what they've been... a game team that finds a way to lose.

I'd be pretty willing to wager that UT could easily be 4-0 against that schedule.
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:good!:
 
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Atl_AU_Alum said:
At this point, there appears to be at least some difference in the QB play between Todd and Crompton - but I'm not exactly sure of the reason(s)... Maybe you guys have seen better defenses that we have to date... I'm waiting to see how Todd performs against a quality D.
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I thought Todd had an injured shoulder all of last season and is healthy this year.
 
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i personally think the difference is Chris Todd the qb for Auburn. His shoulder was injured last year and now that he is healthy he has a strong arm and is tearing it up. if we had any passing game at all we would be 4 and 0. In my opinion thats the difference between the 2 teams
 
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kptvol said:
I thought Todd had an injured shoulder all of last season and is healthy this year.
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He did and he has fully recovered now.. Most AU players were saying watch out for him back in the spring cause he has a good arm
 
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Overall, Auburn is not ahead of us. They have a better QB, we have a better defense. The difference in stats and record has to do with the quality of the competition. Auburn has played pretty weak competition while we've played the #1 team on the road and another very tough defense (UCLA) at home.

Auburn's best opponent was a mediocre WVU team and then La Tech who is comparable to Ohio. We would very well be 4-0 if we played Auburn's schedule. They are obviously getting good QB play, but remember, Crompton looked pretty good against our lousy competition.
 
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Auburn runs the Malzahn spread offense which is hard to defend. It stretches the field, and makes the players have to cover the entire playing field. Plus, if you have a couple players who are not all that great, it exposes them and the the other team can exploit that. Boise St., Utah and other small schools went to that offense because their talent level didn't match up well with the big schools. Meyer made his name on that offense.
 
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General Jack said:
Overall, Auburn is not ahead of us. They have a better QB, we have a better defense. The difference in stats and record has to do with the quality of the competition. Auburn has played pretty weak competition while we've played the #1 team on the road and another very tough defense (UCLA) at home.

Auburn's best opponent was a mediocre WVU team and then La Tech who is comparable to Ohio. We would very well be 4-0 if we played Auburn's schedule. They are obviously getting good QB play, but remember, Crompton looked pretty good against our lousy competition.
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Still had 2 INTs to WKU. Crompton has looked bad every game :(
 
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PressVol said:
yea i think this is pretty obvious where our lack of progress comes from (QB).
If Auburn blows us out, then yea somethings going on. But if they beat us 13-6 after we turn the ball over 4 times in our own half, well then we'll know how we each stand
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If Auburn beats us by any score under any circumstances we will know where we stand. Bottom 3-4 in the SEC.
 
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Chizik inherited a few descent QB's, managable early schedule. Remember, Auburn had really good seasons from '04-'07. They were a top 10 team in 04,05,06 and then had pretty good team in 07. Last year was Tubbs only bad year and they reacted to him. Auburn this year would be like us in '06. Their talent level is not one that has been through 2 loosing seasons, continual beatdowns from Florida and Alabama.

Auburn is not having to "change a culture", they are trying to erase 1 bad year. We had to tear everything down and rebuild from the foundation. It is two different approaches that are not all that comparable. But know this, we are killing them in recruiting, and have a more accomplished overall staff. 5 years from now, that article will be absurd.
 
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volfan4evr said:
Auburn runs the Malzahn spread offense which is hard to defend. It stretches the field, and makes the players have to cover the entire playing field. Plus, if you have a couple players who are not all that great, it exposes them and the the other team can exploit that. Boise St., Utah and other small schools went to that offense because their talent level didn't match up well with the big schools. Meyer made his name on that offense.
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We match up much better against that style of offense than straight-up power run game. We are built for speed first and foremost.

I would almost guarantee Auburn has no where near the success against our D that they have thus far this season.
 
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