Auburn coach out?

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05_never_again said:
Who is to say they don't have proof of it, or perhaps it was something of an open secret (lots of times these things are - just look at the CNN/Jeff Zucker situation) and nobody cared until he started losing too many games?
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Because if they had proof they would have fired him already…they obviously don’t like him or have his back
 
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Voltime123 said:
Because if they had proof they would have fired him already…they obviously don’t like him or have his back
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Not necessarily. Personally I think they are still deciding if they want to keep him around, and if they decide they don't want to, they can use the affair as rationale to fire him for cause.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
A lotta guys brains are in their penile shaft.
They shaft and get shafted in return.
Ought to know that hot stuff burns.
Them Southern gals don't need a pass.
They're just as friendly as ones from Texas.
But if you're going to wildcat drill for oil;
When, not if, you're caught, expect to boil.
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Hahahahahahahaha!!! Where the hell did you find that?? LMAO
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I didn’t get either. Auburn fired an 8-4 SEC coach to hire a 9-3 Mountain West coach. Made zero sense.
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It's sort of like hiring Derek Doofus. In all seriousness, how and why did UT think Dooley was the right choice?
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs (Western Athletic Conference) (2007–2009)
2007 Louisiana Tech 5–7 4–4 T–4th
2008 Louisiana Tech 8–5 5–3 T–2nd W Independence
2009 Louisiana Tech 4–8 3–5 T–5th
Louisiana Tech: 17–20 12–12
Tennessee Volunteers (Southeastern Conference) (2010–2012)
2010 Tennessee 6–7 3–5 T–3rd (East) L Music City
2011 Tennessee 5–7 1–7 6th (East)
2012 Tennessee 4–7* 0–7 6th (East)
Tennessee: 15–21 4–19 * Did not coach 12th game (fired)
 
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05_never_again said:
Not necessarily. Personally I think they are still deciding if they want to keep him around, and if they decide they don't want to, they can use the affair as rationale to fire him for cause.
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What affair? You mean an unsubstantiated rumor as of right now lol we’re talking 17 mill here they are going to need more proof then that to get out of that contract…
 
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Voltime123 said:
You might be right but Freeze had Ncaa violation that terminated his contract, not sure Auburn has the same on Harsin to get out of 17mill
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Agree with the NCAA violations with Freeze, it was a no brainer, in my opinion, for Ole Miss terminating him for cause. Many of these contracts, for coaches, CEO's, etc. have a standard "Morality Clause" and certain "disclosure" requirements - see Jeff Zucker at CNN now - that are intended to mitigate actions or inactions that could or would potentially "embarrass", "harm", or "damage" the employer. Normally, violation of this clause can lead to termination "for cause" negating payout costs or separation with a mutually agreed to final "payment".

It can get sticky, no pun intended, for both parties, especially in today's social media environment. In this case, Auburn is being hammered with "bad" press and Harsin probably has marital issues, not to mention if he is terminated his employability as a head coach at another Power 5 school.

I am just glad that it is UT being hammered . . . for once!!! LOL

GBO
 
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Voltime123 said:
What affair? You mean an unsubstantiated rumor as of right now lol we’re talking 17 mill here they are going to need more proof then that to get out of that contract…
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They'd need proof that the affair took place to get out of the contract, yes. I'm going to go ahead and assume that if an affair took place, they've got proof that it did, or it was something of an open secret. Most office affairs are open secrets that everybody decides they have a problem with once something bad happens.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
You may be more correct than you realize. Back in the 1970s, a study found that swinging was more prevalent among well-to-do Midwesterners, especially in the Minnesota and Wisconsin states, than California. It was assumed that California was the leader in this type of lifestyle, the study proved that was not the case. It's probably tampered off due to HIV and now the Covvie, but given the frequency of caught coaches and politicians hole punching outside their meaningful relationships, i doubt it has tampered down very much. As for nobody cares, well, it's big news each time one of them gets caught. This very thread illustrates that. If it has any legs, expect it to be on major news networks soon enough.
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Swinging is very prevalent today. Knoxville is full of swingers.
 
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05_never_again said:
They'd need proof that the affair took place to get out of the contract yes. I'm going to go ahead and assume that if an affair took place, they've got proof that it did, or it was something of an open secret. Most office affairs are open secrets that everybody decides they have a problem with once something bad happens.
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Would love to see how they got that “proof” lol not saying I believe you but usually the parties involved have to own up to it for it to be viable. We will see
 
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BigDave said:
Agree with the NCAA violations with Freeze, it was a no brainer, in my opinion, for Ole Miss terminating him for cause. Many of these contracts, for coaches, CEO's, etc. have a standard "Morality Clause" and certain "disclosure" requirements - see Jeff Zucker at CNN now - that are intended to mitigate actions or inactions that could or would potentially "embarrass" or "damage" the employer. Normally, violation of this clause can lead to termination "for cause" negating payout costs or separation with a mutually agreed to final "payment".

It can get sticky, no pun intended, for both parties, especially in today's social media environment. In this case, Auburn is being hammered with "bad" press and Harsin probably has marital issues, not to mention if he is terminated his employability as a head coach at another Power 5 school.

I am just glad that it is UT being hammered . . . for once!!! LOL

GBO
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Brings a whole new meaning to the military phrase..."sticky bomb".
 
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Voltime123 said:
Would love to see how they got that “proof” lol not saying I believe you but usually the parties involved have to own up to it for it to be viable. We will see
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Not necessarily. If others in the Auburn admin knew about it, they could still press forward with a firing for cause even if they deny deny deny.
 
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Sure is nice to be on the sidelines of administrative disfunction for a change.
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99gator said:
I know I am alone in this, but I’m tired of tearing people down in a situation where there are two consenting adults.

No one should lose their job for this
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If he posted 10 wins LY, there'd be much less gnashing of teeth...losing streaks for unproven coaches gets alot more people taking high moral ground.
 
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BigDave said:
Agree with the NCAA violations with Freeze, it was a no brainer, in my opinion, for Ole Miss terminating him for cause. Many of these contracts, for coaches, CEO's, etc. have a standard "Morality Clause" and certain "disclosure" requirements - see Jeff Zucker at CNN now - that are intended to mitigate actions or inactions that could or would potentially "embarrass", "harm", or "damage" the employer. Normally, violation of this clause can lead to termination "for cause" negating payout costs or separation with a mutually agreed to final "payment".

It can get sticky, no pun intended, for both parties, especially in today's social media environment. In this case, Auburn is being hammered with "bad" press and Harsin probably has marital issues, not to mention if he is terminated his employability as a head coach at another Power 5 school.

I am just glad that it is UT being hammered . . . for once!!! LOL

GBO
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The CNN ceo admitted to his relationship with a coworker…so far Harsin and the (girl) have denied it or not come out and admitted to it…and to make matters worse Harsin’s wife has even denied the rumors
 
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99gator said:
I know I am alone in this, but I’m tired of tearing people down in a situation where there are two consenting adults.

No one should lose their job for this
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They aren't going to fire Harsin for having an affair.

Assuming that it took place (still unconfirmed), they could fire Harsin for having an affair with his direct subordinate though. I wonder if there could be a Bobby Petrino angle to the story as well; perhaps he got her that job by not going through the proper university procedures/channels for that sort of thing. That is ultimately what Petrino was fired for.
 
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05_never_again said:
Not necessarily. If others in the Auburn admin knew about it, they could still press forward with a firing for cause even if they deny deny deny.
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Firing based on people’s perception usually doesn’t hold up in the court of law this isn’t the military…that 17 mill will go to Harsin if that is all they have
 
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99gator said:
I know I am alone in this, but I’m tired of tearing people down in a situation where there are two consenting adults.

No one should lose their job for this
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Agree but someone is going to. And Harsin or anyone else should be intelligent enough to recognize the risks at this point.
 
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05_never_again said:
They aren't going to fire Harsin for having an affair.

Assuming that it took place (still unconfirmed), they could fire Harsin for having an affair with his direct subordinate though. I wonder if there could be a Bobby Petrino angle to the story as well; perhaps he got her that job by not going through the proper university procedures/channels for that sort of thing. That is ultimately what Petrino was fired for.
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Petrino got caught red handed with the affair after that wreck lol…totally different circumstances here so far unless Auburn has more than just hearsay
 
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