Attorneys: James Franklin contacted victim in Vanderbilt rape case

[tnvols72]

This deserves to be in the football forum so it can be seen on the home page. I saw it in around the NCAA. This is one sick human being. He makes Kiffin look like an innocent school boy. This is just crazy as hell. He seriously should resign and just go the hell away. What was Penn State thinking? I can't believe he contacted the victim and acted like he cares because she "helped him with recruiting". This is an attempt of a scare tactic and trying to bully her and push his weight and power onto her. What a sick bastard. He also knew who she was prior to the rape and recruited her to form a hostess program. He very well could be held liable for putting her in harm's way.....

Franklin is a pathetic POS and if PSU keeps this prick beyond tomorrow deserves what they get. PSU already has a black eye and they will get another one .

 

[Trailbait]

An allegation does not equal admissible evidence. Franklin isn't stupid. If he tampered with a witness, he'd be prosecuted. He's gone so it's past time to stop hating on him. Let it play out in the courtroom. This is a non-story.

 

[bamawriter]

If any of this is true, Franklin should not only be fired, he should face prosecution.

BUT...

...the source for this is a desperate motion by one of the defendants' attorneys. If you are assuming that this is true based only on this story, you are doing so because you despise James Franklin, and for no other reason at all.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

If any of this is true, Franklin should not only be fired, he should face prosecution.

BUT...

...the source for this is a desperate motion by one of the defendants' attorneys. If you are assuming that this is true based only on this story, you are doing so because you despise James Franklin, and for no other reason at all.

Ever the voice of reason, you...

Of course, it's your reason. Writers' privilege, I suppose.

Naturally, you'll reply with some witty, intellectually elevated rebuttal / reply that soars far above my simplistic understanding of what is right, and what is wrong.

What you cannot explain is the smell of a dead cat in any room that James Franklin occupies. I'm thinking the cat ain't the problem.

This one isn't going away. Franklin will either be exonerated, or forever stained.

Choose your words with caution.

Go Vols.

 

[bamawriter]

Ever the voice of reason, you...

Of course, it's your reason. Writers' privilege, I suppose.

Naturally, you'll reply with some witty, intellectually elevated rebuttal / reply that soars far above my simplistic understanding of what is right, and what is wrong.

What you cannot explain is the smell of a dead cat in any room that James Franklin occupies. I'm thinking the cat ain't the problem.

This one isn't going away. Franklin will either be exonerated, or forever stained.

Choose your words with caution.

Go Vols.

I'm not defending Franklin. It would not shock me in the least if he was involved in a cover-up attempt. But I'm not simply going to believe every word that comes out of the mouth, or the pen, of an accused rapist's attorney.

If that's high-minded intellectualism or moral relativism in your book, then I'm sorry your teachers failed you.

 

[utvol372]

The only thing that sucks is the Sterling story will take up a lot of the heat that this would normally be received, but this is going to end poorly for Franklin.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

man you should of heard them all quick to defend him.. he's already pretty much a saint up here..

Well the bar is not exactly set very high at this point and time.

 

[onevol74]

An allegation does not equal admissible evidence. Franklin isn't stupid. If he tampered with a witness, he'd be prosecuted. He's gone so it's past time to stop hating on him. Let it play out in the courtroom. This is a non-story.

You need to read the articles. This is a 25 page allegation with evidence. The feds are now looking into this. You can use your hate card somewhere else.

 

[bamawriter]

You need to read the articles. This is a 25 page allegation with evidence. The feds are now looking into this. You can use your hate card somewhere else.

I don't see any evidence. I see accusations. The accusations may be accurate, but until arguments are made before a judge on the motion, they are just accusations.

 

[dreVol]

There are implications for Vandy's football program too. These kinds of stories smear a pretty thick stain on Vandy's (the university) reputation and prestige. You don't hear about hostess-type scandals or alleged rape cover ups at Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Wake Forest, or Georgia Tech. You know, schools that Vandy considers it's equal.

It looks like Vandy sold out for a competitive football program and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Whether the allegations are true ultimately becomes irrelevant. Vandy's integrity is called into question everytime the rape scandal is revisited. And now that we know that the victim was a hostess, the worse it gets.

I have a feeling that privately the Vandy athletic department is going to curtail a lot of the freedoms that were granted to Franklin. Derek Mason's job just got a whole lot harder.

 

[utvol372]

I don't see any evidence. I see accusations. The accusations may be accurate, but until arguments are made before a judge on the motion, they are just accusations.

Donald Sterling is still technically accused of making those comments which look like they'll cost him his team. Nothing has been proven. So, do you still want to toss out that weaksauce argument?

Penn State having a head coach who is accused of covering up a rape investigation is bad, bad PR. Accusations or Facts be damned.

 

[bamawriter]

Donald Sterling is still technically accused of making those comments which look like they'll cost him his team. Nothing has been proven. So, do you still want to toss out that weaksauce argument?

Bad example. There is evidence of Sterling's comments floating around for all to hear. They could be doctored, but they exist nonetheless. If they are doctored, I'm confident that Sterling's people will prove that.

There is nothing publicly available to support any of the accusations against Franklin. There is an accused rapist's lawyer saying "This happened." But there is nothing available to you and me to prove that. It's not like a tape of Franklin calling the victim has made it to TMZ.

Penn State having a head coach who is accused of covering up a rape investigation is bad, bad PR. Accusations or Facts be damned.

You are certainly riding the "facts be damned" train for all it's worth.

 

[KoachKletus]

I have to roll with bamawriter on this one. Absolutely no evidence has been put forth to support the defendants claim that Franklin had the conversation with the victim. Although - it does seem plausible. To look at the timeline of when the story broke - and when Franklin made a statement - 4 days had elapsed. This does coincide with what the defendants defense team has alleged.
My gut instinct is that Frankie boy did approach the victim, tried to quell the situation but the unfortunate lass would have nothing to do with it.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Feds investigate sex assaults at Vanderbilt University

More news for Vandy. This going to get ugly for Vanderbilt.

Can you imagine JF having to take the stand during football season and getting badgered by an attorney?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Donald Sterling is still technically accused of making those comments which look like they'll cost him his team. Nothing has been proven. So, do you still want to toss out that weaksauce argument?

Penn State having a head coach who is accused of covering up a rape investigation is bad, bad PR. Accusations or Facts be damned.

Sterling has already admitted that is his voice on the tape, so yes something has been proven.

If nothing can be proven, then I don't think it's going to be nearly as bad PR as you think.

 

[VolMax]

From StateCollege.com:

"Penn State administrators said they had done their due diligence and that Franklin was thoroughly vetted. "..My belief, without a doubt, is that James Franklin is a man of extremely high character," Athletic Director Dave Joyner said at the time of Franklin's hiring.

"That when presented with a terrible situation, and God forbid, I wish we never had occasion to learn about James Franklin and how he would handle something like that, but having said that, the way he handled that situation and this has to do with the collective of everything we went through, plus our interviews, discussions with our athletics integrity officer, with counsel, with everybody there, he answered every question forth rightly and with great honesty.""

How does the PSU AD know Franklin answered anything honestly?

 

[AndyMizunogolfer]

Ok so this story confuses me. Why would he have contact with her after the rape to talk about a hostess set up for recruits? I could understand before the rape but after?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Ok so this story confuses me. Why would he have contact with her after the rape to talk about a hostess set up for recruits? I could understand before the rape but after?

That confuses me too.

 

[CobbVol]

Franklin's comments to the allegations:

"The allegations that I did something wrong are simply not true," Franklin said in a statement released by Penn State. "I have cooperated fully with the authorities in this matter but, out of respect for the legal process, I am not able to comment any further."

A lawyer has definitely provided input in this statement and notice no denial of the contact with the victim, which is the crux of the matter. IMO, if he did not contact her, that should have been the lead sentence in the statement.

 

[Grand Vol]

Ok so this story confuses me. Why would he have contact with her after the rape to talk about a hostess set up for recruits? I could understand before the rape but after?

I think the hostess thing was prior to the rape and happened to be mentioned as being why he would get involved. He was going to see her in the aftermath because she was "a part of the program."

 

[BurninOrange]

I think the hostess thing was prior to the rape and happened to be mentioned as being why he would get involved. He was going to see her in the aftermath because she was "a part of the program."

Pretty sure the hostess thing was after the incident happened

 

[FootVolintheFall]

Ok so this story confuses me. Why would he have contact with her after the rape to talk about a hostess set up for recruits? I could understand before the rape but after?

I'm just guessing, but the events in the article may not be in chronological order. She may have become involved with the football program after Franklin wanted to create a bevy of hot hostesses. Then the alleged rape occurred followed by his visit to her afterwards at which time he expressed his concern since she had been involved in recruiting. I think the article had it in reverse order, but that'd be my best guess

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There are implications for Vandy's football program too. These kinds of stories smear a pretty thick stain on Vandy's (the university) reputation and prestige. You don't hear about hostess-type scandals or alleged rape cover ups at Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Wake Forest, or Georgia Tech. You know, schools that Vandy considers it's equal.

See the lacrosse scandal

 

[CountVolcula]

.....

Damn I just almost choked lol:

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I'm not surprised that "new" details have come out, now that he's out of town. Now that he has forsaken them the wolves might start turning.

The presiding judge in Vandenburg's case is a Vandy law alum and the DA is a former Vandy football player. They had "reason" to protect Franklin. This case has gotten to the point of needing a change of venue due to possible compromising and the incestous nature of the Metro legal system and it's ties to Vandy.