At what point do you stop saying next man up...

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and call 911?

Seriously guys take a serious pause. Remove your emotions and butthurt caused by being embarrassed at the water cooler. At some point people have to be realistic. People act like injuries are as excuse for our disappointments. they are not... They are the reason. Period. there are other factors that contributed. Internal conflict on the team (Hurd), Subpar O-line (at least partially injury related also) also played a major role. But it is just the truth guys.

Think about it like this. Take one of the Ravens Superbowl defenses. Remove Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis for the majority of the season. Then sprinkle in other random injuries across the Secondary, Linebackers, Dline. Have Jamal Lewis quit midway through the season and run a patchwork O-line all year. Do they make the Playoffs much less the Superbowl?
 
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You never stop saying Next Man Up. Even if you're recruiting student players out of the stands the day of the game, you show up. Even if the odds are 1,000 to 1 against, you show up. Never quit; never show fear; live for the challenge.
 
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How do you call 911?

Can the reference to injuries to nfl teams has been made about six times, we get it.
 
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pimo1 said:
and call 911?

Seriously guys take a serious pause. Remove your emotions and butthurt caused by being embarrassed at the water cooler. At some point people have to be realistic. People act like injuries are as excuse for our disappointments. they are not... They are the reason. Period. there are other factors that contributed. Internal conflict on the team (Hurd), Subpar O-line (at least partially injury related also) also played a major role. But it is just the truth guys.

Think about it like this. Take one of the Ravens Superbowl defenses. Remove Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis for the majority of the season. Then sprinkle in other random injuries across the Secondary, Linebackers, Dline. Have Jamal Lewis quit midway through the season and run a patchwork O-line all year. Do they make the Playoffs much less the Superbowl?
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Next man up. :loco:
 
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pimo1 said:
and call 911?

Seriously guys take a serious pause. Remove your emotions and butthurt caused by being embarrassed at the water cooler. At some point people have to be realistic. People act like injuries are as excuse for our disappointments. they are not... They are the reason. Period. there are other factors that contributed. Internal conflict on the team (Hurd), Subpar O-line (at least partially injury related also) also played a major role. But it is just the truth guys.

Think about it like this. Take one of the Ravens Superbowl defenses. Remove Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis for the majority of the season. Then sprinkle in other random injuries across the Secondary, Linebackers, Dline. Have Jamal Lewis quit midway through the season and run a patchwork O-line all year. Do they make the Playoffs much less the Superbowl?
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Well coached teams don't generally rank near the bottom in the nation in turnover margin and penalties.

Getting players to buy in and play hard and play smart has nothing to do with the injuries.

What has most upset is seeing how unprepared this team is week to week and how sloppy and undisciplined it has become compared to years past.

It's more of being lucky than playing well that has gotten them to 7-3 this season.
 
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Vol Catdaddy said:
Something is definitely wrong with our vols and s&c program. These injuries are mind nubbing.
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What's wrong with the S&C program? Short summary of what should bed different based on each case. Defense only.

Jalen Reeves-Maybin:

Cameron Sutton:

Darrin Kirkland:

Shy Tuttle:

Khalil McKenzie

Todd Kelly:

Evan Berry:

Micah Abernathy:

Daniel Bituli:

Danny O'Brien:

I've been hoping someone can explain how the SC program could have fixed each case this season. TIA.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You never stop saying Next Man Up. Even if you're recruiting student players out of the stands the day of the game, you show up. Even if the odds are 1,000 to 1 against, you show up. Never quit; never show fear; live for the challenge.
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Didn't we get a guy out of a dorm a few years ago??
 
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I'll take a stab at this. I wouldn't necessarily say S&C is bad. What is bad imo is I don't think we had a physical camp like years past under Jones. I think that is the biggest problem. If you think about it, I'm not sure we heard even once about practices being physical this year. I know in previous years we heard plenty note the injuries to other teams the previous years.
 
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pimo1 said:
and call 911?

Seriously guys take a serious pause. Remove your emotions and butthurt caused by being embarrassed at the water cooler. At some point people have to be realistic. People act like injuries are as excuse for our disappointments. they are not... They are the reason. Period. there are other factors that contributed. Internal conflict on the team (Hurd), Subpar O-line (at least partially injury related also) also played a major role. But it is just the truth guys.

Think about it like this. Take one of the Ravens Superbowl defenses. Remove Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis for the majority of the season. Then sprinkle in other random injuries across the Secondary, Linebackers, Dline. Have Jamal Lewis quit midway through the season and run a patchwork O-line all year. Do they make the Playoffs much less the Superbowl?
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Good points, but if I heard any one of our players talking that way in season, I would question their commitment. You never quit. You play your guts out until the season is done. There are injuries and internal conflicts every year. Usually, we don't hear about them until things happen you can't keep within the privacy of walls the team gathers within.

Despite the misfortunes of this season, we are still in the best position we have been in for the past 10 years. And I am excited about incoming players like the Gaddy brothers, Bennett, Gray, Chandler, and hopefully Gibbs.

Sadly, being a Vols fan is a little like being on Star Trek. We have some "cling on" fans that feel the only way to build a program is tear it apart anytime their pathetic expectations fall short. Sad.
 
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livefaith said:
What's wrong with the S&C program? Short summary of what should bed different based on each case. Defense only.

Jalen Reeves-Maybin:

Cameron Sutton:

Darrin Kirkland:

Shy Tuttle:

Khalil McKenzie

Todd Kelly:

Evan Berry:

Micah Abernathy:

Daniel Bituli:

Danny O'Brien:

I've been hoping someone can explain how the SC program could have fixed each case this season. TIA.
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Maybe not fixed, but well, you know, maybe prevented.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Well coached teams don't generally rank near the bottom in the nation in turnover margin and penalties.

Getting players to buy in and play hard and play smart has nothing to do with the injuries.

What has most upset is seeing how unprepared this team is week to week and how sloppy and undisciplined it has become compared to years past.

It's more of being lucky than playing well that has gotten them to 7-3 this season.
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You're just about as oblivious to reality :)crazy:) as a supposed football fan can be, young man. OP's thread hit the nail right on the head. 'Proof once again that it's fruitless to argue with a lunatic. Nonetheless...I'll give it a shot.

Now, as for winning so ugly versus Appy State and Ohio: Even the greatest of teams occasionally play down to the competition; only to turn up the jets when the game comes down to the final moments. About the come-from-behind win over VT: With at least a caricature of the team which came out of fall camp, both coaches Shoop and DeBord had at least enough players who could execute a decent number of plays in the playbook, so they took off just before halftime. UF? This game was about adjustments and UT got it straight, then had enough studs in the game to lay it to the gayduhs. The UGA game saw the dawgs playing their best game, and like a championship team the Vols pulled off a play they "believed" they'd make work...and it did. A&M was indicative of the team's resilience, despite the injuries before and during that game. Bammer was impossible to beat by a group that, even if they had all their starters on the field, they still only had a slight chance of pulling it off. USCjr caught our guys disoriented due to the necessary reorientation necessary to be re-tooled by a staff missing some key parts...and for the moral dearth due quite a lot to the J. Hurd situation. Tech was a chance to get some very green players some valuable snaps and then UK's running all over the Vols' defense just makes Bob Shoop earn his big bucks for upcoming Missouri. Let's look forward to the next two games and another shot at bammer. The Vols ought to wind up champions of the SEC east. Got it?:salute:
 
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pimo1 said:
and call 911?

Seriously guys take a serious pause. Remove your emotions and butthurt caused by being embarrassed at the water cooler. At some point people have to be realistic. People act like injuries are as excuse for our disappointments. they are not... They are the reason. Period. there are other factors that contributed. Internal conflict on the team (Hurd), Subpar O-line (at least partially injury related also) also played a major role. But it is just the truth guys.

Think about it like this. Take one of the Ravens Superbowl defenses. Remove Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis for the majority of the season. Then sprinkle in other random injuries across the Secondary, Linebackers, Dline. Have Jamal Lewis quit midway through the season and run a patchwork O-line all year. Do they make the Playoffs much less the Superbowl?
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Seem to recall Ohio state winning a title with a third string qb.

Maybe Butch can learn to coach his players up and actually make his scheme fit them? ?
 
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