'26 ASU Transfer QB Sam Leavitt (LSU)

The future of college Football is going to be very interesting in next few years. I was a huge pro baseball fan most of my life until I became frustrated how it was going...Now we are seeing football going in same direction..The big money (commercial advertising and TV) will be totally controlling all sports in near future.
I can hardly afford to go to two/three sporting events per year now. It is too easy to watch on TV..
BTO is right $10million QB’s are just around the corner…
 
Ok.
Makes sense to me.

But……

How are all the kids gonna agree to that? How many reps are there? Where does it start and end?

As of right now…… they can ask and get pretty much anything they want.

I’m honestly wanting to know how it “fix” it.

When was the last/first time the leverage was in the athletes hand. Never?
I agree the players won't, but I could see a scenario in 3 ro 4 years, when most of the TV contracts begin to expire, and the NCAA and congress continue to do nothing where the B1G and SEC say enough.

They expand with the last teams worth anything and that have the ability to pay these large salaries and form their super league. Player contracts that have the ability to be 1 year or multi year. Agents have to be licensed, ala NFL. Players get paid on a sensible scale with an actual contract. NIL is dead..Advertising contracts all go through a true clearinghouse to make sure they're on the up and up. Bowl games are officially dead, 16 team playoff. First 2 rounds are on campus stadiums. Maybe B1G championship, SEC Championship (these are now equivalent of AFC and NFC championship games) are at neutral sites.

I just can't imagine everyone besides players want to keep the status quo. Something will have to give eventually.
 
I agree the players won't, but I could see a scenario in 3 ro 4 years, when most of the TV contracts begin to expire, and the NCAA and congress continue to do nothing where the B1G and SEC say enough.

They expand with the last teams worth anything and that have the ability to pay these large salaries and form their super league. Player contracts that have the ability to be 1 year or multi year. Agents have to be licensed, ala NFL. Players get paid on a sensible scale with an actual contract. NIL is dead..Advertising contracts all go through a true clearinghouse to make sure they're on the up and up. Bowl games are officially dead, 16 team playoff. First 2 rounds are on campus stadiums. Maybe B1G championship, SEC Championship (these are now equivalent of AFC and NFC championship games) are at neutral sites.

I just can't imagine everyone besides players want to keep the status quo. Something will have to give eventually.
My only question is……

If you have the power, are you going to give it up?
How much are you going to give up?

I agree 100% there needs to be a divide, but those with the power don’t want to give it up

All professional sports have gone thru this…. With ownership having leverage.

Now the players have the leverage.
 
And soon…….



A top pick in the NFL draft will say, “ Screw you NFL. I’m done. I’ve made plenty for me and I’m finished.”

It’s gonna happen.


Not everyone because people are greedy…..but it’s gonna happen

Yup. If I made 10 million+ in college I’m living a minimalism life style for the rest of my life comfortably lmao
 
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The Miami stuff, if true, is just another reason I’d rather we move elsewhere. I said it the other day and I’ll repeat it: we’ve already dealt with prima Donnas (Nico and Boo) and look how those turned out. From what I’ve read, not even including Miami, he’s all about himself with zero conviction. It’s not worth the cancer that can bring your locker room, especially at that position.
 
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He is going in the first round of the draft
yes I know that is projected. We will see, seems every year kids get first round projections and fall to other rounds, only so many spots and always some teams pick these off the wall players that no one has heard of.
 
Got hurt playing basketball……against coaches wishes. Not a part of the game.

Right, like I said we checked him out, he could get hurt first play, falling down the steps or be fine and help us win a natty...
There will be provisions in his deal if needed as it relates to funds, of course that don't fill the qb spot but hey gotta take a swing.
Go big Orange!
 
Ok.
Makes sense to me.

But……

How are all the kids gonna agree to that? How many reps are there? Where does it start and end?

As of right now…… they can ask and get pretty much anything they want.

I’m honestly wanting to know how it “fix” it.

When was the last/first time the leverage was in the athletes hand. Never?
Okay, you're going to make me tldr this.

With collective bargaining comes organized labor.

So why would it be in all of players best interest to negotiate?

Well, as pointed out by ESPN...
Without a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) in place, colleges have significant leeway to impose unilateral restrictions on student-athletes, as they aren't formally recognized as employees with union protections in most cases. This allows schools to use tools like NIL contracts, eligibility rules, and institutional policies to limit player mobility, earnings, or participation.

1. Incorporate Restrictive Clauses in NIL Contracts Colleges and their affiliated collectives can draft NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) agreements with terms that penalize athletes for transferring or even considering it. For example:
  • Immediately halting payments if an athlete enters the transfer portal or expresses interest in leaving.
  • Requiring buyout fees from the athlete (or their new school) if they transfer before the contract ends.
  • Allowing the school to terminate the deal at any time "in its sole and absolute discretion" without penalty, while imposing financial penalties on the athlete for early termination. These clauses create a financial deterrent to mobility, effectively tying players to the school.
2. Enforce Conflicts with Institutional Contracts Schools can block or restrict NIL deals that conflict with their own corporate sponsorships or contracts. This gives them leverage to veto athlete opportunities that compete with university partners, limiting earning potential and forcing players to prioritize school interests over personal ones.

3. Impose Unilateral Caps or Limits on Compensation Without negotiated terms, colleges could set internal salary caps or revenue-sharing limits (as seen in proposals like the House v. NCAA settlement) that haven't been bargained with athletes. This includes monitoring and restricting third-party NIL payments subjectively, capping overall earnings to keep costs down and retain control over budgets.

4. Use Eligibility and Academic Rules as Barriers Institutions can leverage NCAA or school-specific eligibility requirements to sideline players, such as:
  • Redshirting (holding a player out for a season to preserve eligibility), which delays their development or pro timeline without player input.
  • Strict academic progress mandates that could result in ineligibility if not met, effectively holding players back from competing or transferring smoothly.
5. Apply Transfer Restrictions or Penalties While antitrust risks exist, schools or conferences could attempt internal rules limiting transfers, such as sit-out periods or in-conference bans, without athlete negotiation. This has been discussed as potentially anticompetitive but feasible in the absence of a CBA to protect player rights.

6. Control Rosters and Scholarships Unilaterally Under settlements like House v. NCAA, opting-in schools can enforce new roster limits and scholarship caps without athlete input, potentially cutting opportunities for walk-ons or lower-tier players. Non-opting schools might maintain collectives for NIL but still impose their own restrictions on participation or benefits.

These tactics exploit the current lack of employee status and union representation for most student-athletes, allowing schools to prioritize institutional stability over player autonomy. However, they carry legal risks like antitrust challenges, and ongoing cases (e.g., at Dartmouth or USC) could shift the landscape toward mandatory bargaining.

If a CBA emerges, it would likely require negotiation on these issues, providing more protections for players.

Finally, it's not the players resisting a CBA, it's the NCAA. There's a lot of money on the table that they want to keep for themselves.
 
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Okay, you're going to make me tldr this.

With collective bargaining comes organized labor.

So why would it be in all of players best interest to negotiate?

Well, as pointed out by ESPN...
Without a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) in place, colleges have significant leeway to impose unilateral restrictions on student-athletes, as they aren't formally recognized as employees with union protections in most cases. This allows schools to use tools like NIL contracts, eligibility rules, and institutional policies to limit player mobility, earnings, or participation.

1. Incorporate Restrictive Clauses in NIL Contracts Colleges and their affiliated collectives can draft NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) agreements with terms that penalize athletes for transferring or even considering it. For example:
  • Immediately halting payments if an athlete enters the transfer portal or expresses interest in leaving.
  • Requiring buyout fees from the athlete (or their new school) if they transfer before the contract ends.
  • Allowing the school to terminate the deal at any time "in its sole and absolute discretion" without penalty, while imposing financial penalties on the athlete for early termination. These clauses create a financial deterrent to mobility, effectively tying players to the school.
2. Enforce Conflicts with Institutional Contracts Schools can block or restrict NIL deals that conflict with their own corporate sponsorships or contracts. This gives them leverage to veto athlete opportunities that compete with university partners, limiting earning potential and forcing players to prioritize school interests over personal ones.

3. Impose Unilateral Caps or Limits on Compensation Without negotiated terms, colleges could set internal salary caps or revenue-sharing limits (as seen in proposals like the House v. NCAA settlement) that haven't been bargained with athletes. This includes monitoring and restricting third-party NIL payments subjectively, capping overall earnings to keep costs down and retain control over budgets.

4. Use Eligibility and Academic Rules as Barriers Institutions can leverage NCAA or school-specific eligibility requirements to sideline players, such as:
  • Redshirting (holding a player out for a season to preserve eligibility), which delays their development or pro timeline without player input.
  • Strict academic progress mandates that could result in ineligibility if not met, effectively holding players back from competing or transferring smoothly.
5. Apply Transfer Restrictions or Penalties While antitrust risks exist, schools or conferences could attempt internal rules limiting transfers, such as sit-out periods or in-conference bans, without athlete negotiation. This has been discussed as potentially anticompetitive but feasible in the absence of a CBA to protect player rights.

6. Control Rosters and Scholarships Unilaterally Under settlements like House v. NCAA, opting-in schools can enforce new roster limits and scholarship caps without athlete input, potentially cutting opportunities for walk-ons or lower-tier players. Non-opting schools might maintain collectives for NIL but still impose their own restrictions on participation or benefits.

These tactics exploit the current lack of employee status and union representation for most student-athletes, allowing schools to prioritize institutional stability over player autonomy. However, they carry legal risks like antitrust challenges, and ongoing cases (e.g., at Dartmouth or USC) could shift the landscape toward mandatory bargaining.

If a CBA emerges, it would likely require negotiation on these issues, providing more protections for players.

Finally, it's not the players resisting a CBA, it's the NCAA. There's a lot of money on the table they want to keep for themselves.

None of your things you’re saying the school can do (like stop paying you if you transfer) sounded like bad things.

No thanks to unions
 
He is going in the first round of the draft
The first round is not for certain for Ty. But if Moore stays, like he is trending to, then Ty is easily the number 2 QB in this draft class and it's not particularly close. A that point, I think there would be enough QB starved teams to take a chance on him.

I will say that Trinidad Chambliss has rocketed up draft boards the last couple of weeks, but I doubt he's got enough helium to boost him into the top 15 or so picks of the first round.
 
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The Miami stuff, if true, is just another reason I’d rather we move elsewhere. I said it the other day and I’ll repeat it: we’ve already dealt with prima Donnas (Nico and Boo) and look how those turned out. From what I’ve read, not even including Miami, he’s all about himself with zero conviction. It’s not worth the cancer that can bring your locker room, especially at that position.
The Miami stuff is that they don't like dealing with his brother. His brother is his agent that lives in Nashville and already knew Heupel and Halzle because he played at Utah State the one year they were there. There have been no reports from Tennessee's side that his brother was any problem at all. It could be that his brother thinks Tennessee might be the better spot for him and was hyper-critical of everything on the Miami visit. They could've been feeding Sam a bunch of BS and his brother was calling them out on it. Then again, his brother could just be an a-hole that's hard to deal with and maybe Sam is too. The point is that we don't really know if there's something there that we need to avoid. I'm guessing after the Boo situation that Heupel isn't going to take many chances on a guy's character.
 
The Miami stuff is that they don't like dealing with his brother. His brother is his agent that lives in Nashville and already knew Heupel and Halzle because he played at Utah State the one year they were there. There have been no reports from Tennessee's side that his brother was any problem at all. It could be that his brother thinks Tennessee might be the better spot for him and was hyper-critical of everything on the Miami visit. They could've been feeding Sam a bunch of BS and his brother was calling them out on it. Then again, his brother could just be an a-hole that's hard to deal with and maybe Sam is too. The point is that we don't really know if there's something there that we need to avoid. I'm guessing after the Boo situation that Heupel isn't going to take many chances on a guy's character.
To be fair…I do remember seeing a lot of ASU people complaining about the brother at the end of the season

Could just be sour grapes or there could be some truth to it 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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And soon…….



A top pick in the NFL draft will say, “ Screw you NFL. I’m done. I’ve made plenty for me and I’m finished.”

It’s gonna happen.


Not everyone because people are greedy…..but it’s gonna happen
Greedy or smart? Why go to the. NFL and get your brains beat in when you’ve already made millions in college. I get making more money but CTE doesn’t care how much money you’ve got.
 
Greedy or smart? Why go to the. NFL and get your brains beat in when you’ve already made millions in college. I get making more money but CTE doesn’t care how much money you’ve got.
You can't get concussions in College Football? Interesting..
 

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