As Long As Pruitt Keeps Winning the Press Conferences . . . .

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VolInDayton said:
We butchered hiring Leach. Also I'm not convinced his offense would work in this conference. Bragging about beat Stanford is no different than our Auburn win. A at the time ranked win on the road against a team that is no longer ranked.

Les Miles hasn't gotten any offers in a while. Not saying he would be bad but something has to be going on there.

Everyone was using us for to get a pay raise last year.
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We could have chosen to outbid the other school but decide this route would be good enough. For some it appears to be just that. Good enough.
 
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volbeast33 said:
You do realize that Mike leach won 3 games 2 out of his first 3 seasons at Wash State..... I would much rather have Pruitt than leach or miles.....give the man time.
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Are we using a perennial West Coast loser as the yardstick?


Mike Leach can coach circles around any of our last 3 hires. He simply needs a good DC a f he is aware of that. There is little doubt at a program like UT he would be very successful and he would pretty much have his choice of DCs.

However it seems none of the bluebloods are willing to take on a personality so different that he might embarrass the good ol boys running things. They apparently refer the side hires that might be able to compete as a wild card like Leach.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Are we using a perennial West Coast loser as the yardstick?


Mike Leach can coach circles around any of our last 3 hires. He simply needs a good DC a f he is aware of that. There is little doubt at a program like UT he would be very successful and he would pretty much have his choice of DCs.

However it seems none of the bluebloods are willing to take on a personality so different that he might embarrass the good ol boys running things. They apparently refer the side hires that might be able to compete as a wild card like Leach.
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If Stoops were to leave Kentucky they'll make a run at him. Not a blueblood, but in better shape than us right now.
 
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People don't understand the depth of crap Lyle left this program in. We have the right guy but its not a one season fix. He is great defensive co. And will grow into a great head coach.Dooley and Lyle were prime examples of the Peter Principal. With Fulmer at AD we will right the ship. It just won't happen this year.
 
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Thorp32 said:
Vol Fans will keep defending and overlooking his below average coaching job. I get it. Pruitt is very likable. Plus he is the anti-Dooley and Jones type of Coach in the press conferences. However there comes a time when he has to practice what he is preaching to us. For example, most everyone would agree that this team is undisciplined and disorganized (continuing illegal formation, substitution and pre-snap penalties) You could blame this on being a rookie head coach but what about Pruitt's decision to be the DC and HC. The road to HC hell is littered with ex-coaches who have tried to be the DC and HC at the same time and failed miserable. More fans than not would agree that Pruitt's in game decision making is woefully lacking (i.e. continuing to try these onside kicks and failing; potentially giving up points right before half at SC; losing momentum in the 4th Qtr at SC on the 4th and 7 attempt. What about his recruiting? We are currently sixth in the SEC. This kind of recruiting will not cut it. What about his decision to hire rookie assistant coaches (excepting T Rocker)? It seemed to me that Pruitt invited his best friends to UT's party rather than hiring seasoned veteran assistant coaches who could mentor him during the year. It was reported during the SC game that Pruitt's Dad read him the riot act after the Bama game and made the statement that how the team plays on the field is an accurate reflection of the HC and the HC's performance (paraphrasing). I believe this as well. I really want Pruitt to succeed but this year so far has created huge doubts. I hope he makes major sweeping changes next year.
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I think we were going to have doubts about any coach this year, whether it was Kelly or Mullen or Gruden or Pruitt or Leach. They were dealt a leaky bag of sh**, so it’s all about how do we feel about Pruitt longer term. I think he’ll prove to be a good one.
 
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OP you and the small number of people that think like you do, JUST STOP WITH THE BULLL! You are so wrong on so many levels, if you are really a Vol fan!

Eight weeks in his first season and you talk like this. Your comments make the entire fan base look bad. Let's look at a possible coaching change as I am sure that would fix the problem . Let's talk about how our players suck, as some on here have stated. That will help also by bringing in better players so they can be belittled. We have been trying this for about ten years now and look at our program!

You need to get on board or find another train to ride! GO Vols!
 
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Thorp32 said:
Vol Fans will keep defending and overlooking his below average coaching job. I get it. Pruitt is very likable. Plus he is the anti-Dooley and Jones type of Coach in the press conferences. However there comes a time when he has to practice what he is preaching to us. For example, most everyone would agree that this team is undisciplined and disorganized (continuing illegal formation, substitution and pre-snap penalties) You could blame this on being a rookie head coach but what about Pruitt's decision to be the DC and HC. The road to HC hell is littered with ex-coaches who have tried to be the DC and HC at the same time and failed miserable. More fans than not would agree that Pruitt's in game decision making is woefully lacking (i.e. continuing to try these onside kicks and failing; potentially giving up points right before half at SC; losing momentum in the 4th Qtr at SC on the 4th and 7 attempt. What about his recruiting? We are currently sixth in the SEC. This kind of recruiting will not cut it. What about his decision to hire rookie assistant coaches (excepting T Rocker)? It seemed to me that Pruitt invited his best friends to UT's party rather than hiring seasoned veteran assistant coaches who could mentor him during the year. It was reported during the SC game that Pruitt's Dad read him the riot act after the Bama game and made the statement that how the team plays on the field is an accurate reflection of the HC and the HC's performance (paraphrasing). I believe this as well. I really want Pruitt to succeed but this year so far has created huge doubts. I hope he makes major sweeping changes next year.
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You must have missed the Auburn game. Let’s not be too hasty. Give him 12 games (possibly 13) and we can have a better discussion about CJP.
Emotional post is emotional.
 
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Thorp32 said:
Vol Fans will keep defending and overlooking his below average coaching job. I get it. Pruitt is very likable. Plus he is the anti-Dooley and Jones type of Coach in the press conferences. However there comes a time when he has to practice what he is preaching to us. For example, most everyone would agree that this team is undisciplined and disorganized (continuing illegal formation, substitution and pre-snap penalties) You could blame this on being a rookie head coach but what about Pruitt's decision to be the DC and HC. The road to HC hell is littered with ex-coaches who have tried to be the DC and HC at the same time and failed miserable. More fans than not would agree that Pruitt's in game decision making is woefully lacking (i.e. continuing to try these onside kicks and failing; potentially giving up points right before half at SC; losing momentum in the 4th Qtr at SC on the 4th and 7 attempt. What about his recruiting? We are currently sixth in the SEC. This kind of recruiting will not cut it. What about his decision to hire rookie assistant coaches (excepting T Rocker)? It seemed to me that Pruitt invited his best friends to UT's party rather than hiring seasoned veteran assistant coaches who could mentor him during the year. It was reported during the SC game that Pruitt's Dad read him the riot act after the Bama game and made the statement that how the team plays on the field is an accurate reflection of the HC and the HC's performance (paraphrasing). I believe this as well. I really want Pruitt to succeed but this year so far has created huge doubts. I hope he makes major sweeping changes next year.
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All of this ...and the obvious ignored. The average successful turnaround breaks even the next year , sometimes with a slight improvement and sometimes with a slight regression. It depends on the previous recruiting cycle ( see coaching search ) , the schedule ( toughest in the nation ) , and the previous years record ( the worst in school history ) . So I am forecasting 5 wins , with an outside chance of 6 . This is exceptional considering the 3 items I just noted. The there are the 'intangibles' which are actually very tangible. Last season , the worst defense in school history. No QB . No running game . By default, no receiver play. Injuries everywhere. No offensive line. No depth. Every item I just listed , we have improved. Considering most of our players are undersized and under speed and would be lucky to break the 3 deep of most SEC teams ...you are just going to have to accept the improvements and look at the rebuild based on expected trends. If you are a pure star gazer, recruiting may look glum. If you look at the LOS guys , not one less than 300 lbs. He will over recruit as much as possible and this class will improve.

Football is a cumulative sport. Like weightlifting. You cant just work out for 6 months and be a world class lifter. It is cumulative over time. Improvements have been remarkable so far . There are no magic words, or top shelf plays or special formulas. There is only building, grinding , strengthening and getting next level. If someone thought we had a 9 or 10 win season coming this year , you may need to switch to a sport like table tennis or something. Next year should be 8-10 wins if he follows the rebuild script. I have looking forward to it
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Are we using a perennial West Coast loser as the yardstick?


Mike Leach can coach circles around any of our last 3 hires. He simply needs a good DC a f he is aware of that. There is little doubt at a program like UT he would be very successful and he would pretty much have his choice of DCs.

However it seems none of the bluebloods are willing to take on a personality so different that he might embarrass the good ol boys running things. They apparently refer the side hires that might be able to compete as a wild card like Leach.
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Leach's offense wouldn't hold water in the SEC ….or everybody would be running it. I could tell you why , but the Leach fans would argue it . That offense would never beat the top tier SEC teams . Bubba has proven it year after year. Stop the run. Run the ball. You win . It's and ancient , simple football philosophy and yet the latest fad ball seems to mystify so many so often.
 
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#114
Man i see things i don't like. You'd be blind to think there isn't a depth problem at the line of scrimmage though. Quality depth too. It's bad right now. That's why Butch Jones's dipshat azz getting a gatorade bath doesn't bother me. He was a failure. He trolled the whole Tennessee fanbase and the University with that stunt. He wanted out before year 5. You cut bait. I hope the next time a coach is looking for a escape we give it to him. He didn't recruit anything his last year. Just about as much the Unversity's fault as it was Jones's. He was in self preservation mode last year and it was clear he was there to collect a check. That's why having Fulmer in the AD's role is good for us. He won't let that happen on his watch. He would of canned Botch after year 4. Maybe year 3. He sucked during year 3 and carried that suck into year 4. The recruits he brought in Hurd, Dobbs, Barnett saved his pitiful azz. That's why it's really about the Jimmy's and Joe's. Even a shatty coach like Jones can steal money off their backs.
 
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Thorp32 said:
Vol Fans will keep defending and overlooking his below average coaching job. I get it. Pruitt is very likable. Plus he is the anti-Dooley and Jones type of Coach in the press conferences. However there comes a time when he has to practice what he is preaching to us. For example, most everyone would agree that this team is undisciplined and disorganized (continuing illegal formation, substitution and pre-snap penalties) You could blame this on being a rookie head coach but what about Pruitt's decision to be the DC and HC. The road to HC hell is littered with ex-coaches who have tried to be the DC and HC at the same time and failed miserable. More fans than not would agree that Pruitt's in game decision making is woefully lacking (i.e. continuing to try these onside kicks and failing; potentially giving up points right before half at SC; losing momentum in the 4th Qtr at SC on the 4th and 7 attempt. What about his recruiting? We are currently sixth in the SEC. This kind of recruiting will not cut it. What about his decision to hire rookie assistant coaches (excepting T Rocker)? It seemed to me that Pruitt invited his best friends to UT's party rather than hiring seasoned veteran assistant coaches who could mentor him during the year. It was reported during the SC game that Pruitt's Dad read him the riot act after the Bama game and made the statement that how the team plays on the field is an accurate reflection of the HC and the HC's performance (paraphrasing). I believe this as well. I really want Pruitt to succeed but this year so far has created huge doubts. I hope he makes major sweeping changes next year.
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BOO THIS MAN!
 
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#117
Guys it's like this. Give the man a couple of recruiting cycles before we start with this stuff. There is a reason last year's team went 0-8 and it wasn't all coaching. There is a reason this year's team is where it's at. We give those talking heads crap about their preseason predictions but they're pretty close a lot of times. Most said 5-7. Looks about right with this bunch. 6-6 and it's better than most think. The bar was set low and our former coach was celebrating with a team he took a coffee runner job with. Yeah that's the state of Tennessee football.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
There's a guy on the West Coast who just spanked Stanfird who was interested.

Les Miles could have been persuaded.


But go ahead and tell yourself whatever you need to in order to make you think what we have is the best we could get ..
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Leach was interested in being pursued for his own gain similar to many coaches. Hes a fine offensive mind that's a terrible fit in a fish bowl under a microscope. He was in Lubbock, TX and now Pullman, WA for a reason.

Les Miles has now been out of the game for 2 years with several jobs opening across the country at varying levels. Maybe your the only one?
 
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Thorp32 said:
Vol Fans will keep defending and overlooking his below average coaching job. I get it. Pruitt is very likable. Plus he is the anti-Dooley and Jones type of Coach in the press conferences. However there comes a time when he has to practice what he is preaching to us. For example, most everyone would agree that this team is undisciplined and disorganized (continuing illegal formation, substitution and pre-snap penalties) You could blame this on being a rookie head coach but what about Pruitt's decision to be the DC and HC. The road to HC hell is littered with ex-coaches who have tried to be the DC and HC at the same time and failed miserable. More fans than not would agree that Pruitt's in game decision making is woefully lacking (i.e. continuing to try these onside kicks and failing; potentially giving up points right before half at SC; losing momentum in the 4th Qtr at SC on the 4th and 7 attempt. What about his recruiting? We are currently sixth in the SEC. This kind of recruiting will not cut it. What about his decision to hire rookie assistant coaches (excepting T Rocker)? It seemed to me that Pruitt invited his best friends to UT's party rather than hiring seasoned veteran assistant coaches who could mentor him during the year. It was reported during the SC game that Pruitt's Dad read him the riot act after the Bama game and made the statement that how the team plays on the field is an accurate reflection of the HC and the HC's performance (paraphrasing). I believe this as well. I really want Pruitt to succeed but this year so far has created huge doubts. I hope he makes major sweeping changes next year.
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OP, I'm trying to find where where you said we needed to fire Pruitt this year or any time. I read all the above posts and see you cannot question any of the coaching without sounding like the HC should be fired. Maybe there is a forum rule I missed saying no negative comments until year 4 or year 5. Yesterday I started a post comparing season 17 vs this season. Most replies sounded like I should go cheer for another team. I thought CJP would win 7 or more games, so yes I'm disappointed. I think Pruitt will be a very good coach but I thought Jones would be also. He took over a bad roster from Dooley and won 5 games his first year. Won more games than anybody in over a decade. Only coach to beat Fl in over a decade. All this and I think Jones was a bad coach. People blamed him for every missed tackle and burned defensive back, yet defend Pruitt saying the players aren't good. I am so glad Jones is gone and I think Pruitt will be good, but I see several continuing mistakes that I think coaching should cure but they happen over and over. You may not be the strongest linemen but at least get in the way and don't whiff. You may not be the fastest but when a runner or WR is coming at you, you should tackle. My honest opinion is Pruitt is "NOT" as concerned with wins and loses this year (yes, he wants to wins) as he is instilling his system and mental approach. This is why he plays so many younger players, not just because all the younger are the best.
 
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Thorp32,Where the hell do you get "rookie assistant coaches,exceptT Rocker"?Name one new assistant.You cannot.You should go back in time and go into the Roman Room and sit in the back by the bathroom.That statement,and several of your other generalizations,are not germaine or true.Glad you are prolific enough with words to have a large paragraph to say nothing.GBO.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Leach was interested in being pursued for his own gain similar to many coaches. Hes a fine offensive mind that's a terrible fit in a fish bowl under a microscope. He was in Lubbock, TX and now Pullman, WA for a reason.

Les Miles has now been out of the game for 2 years with several jobs opening across the country at varying levels. Maybe your the only one?
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So in your opinion UT sucks so bad that no decent coach would possibly come here?

Is that your defense of the coach who did come here? Because it is a damned odd defense if that's so.

I do agree with your and others assertion that no decent coach would come here for a beginning coaches pay. If the offer was good enough many established coaches would be happy to have the facilities in Knoxville. And to pretend this fanbase is the only passionate one around is pretty near-sighted.
 
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