As John Ward said - "Its time."

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I know I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but it needs to be said. It needs to be said over and over on here and everywhere else. In our newspapers, on our local news, to our friends and family, and most importantly, it needs to be said to Phillip Fulmer.

Those famous two words uttered by John Ward when he announced his retirement.

"It's time."

It's time for a change in Knoxville. It's time for some new, young blood on the coaching staff. Now, I'm not talking about bringing in a new "Backup Long Snapper Special Teams Coach." I'm talking about a complete dismantle. Starting with Slade and going all the way up to Sanders and Fulmer. These guys are the dinosaurs of college football. John Chavis, great coach, old as dirt scheme - bye, bye.

Let your voice be heard. Speak out against Fulmer. f*** loyalty.

Obviously, Fulmer has too much of the 'ole L word. Maybe he still feels guilty? Maybe he's trying to prove something to himself? Maybe if he had gotten rid of these morons he has working for him 4 years ago, we all wouldn't be calling for his head right now.

It's time for you to go coach. Take your worthless staph (as in infection) with you too. Thanks.

Consider me the president of the "Fire Fulmer Club".

HEY, WOMAN *cough* GET ME MIKE LEACH'S NUMBER!!!

Ah, yes there it is....

HIRE MIKE LEACH!!!
HIRE MIKE LEACH!!!
HIRE MIKE LEACH!!!

I think we all know where I stand. Have a nice day Vol Nation.




-Todd
 
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Great choice, Mike Leach would bring a whole new system that would be welcomed by vols fans, that have been looking for a much needed spark.

...but we still keep chavis
 
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Originally posted by GR8EST@Oct 15, 2005 2:05 PM
Great choice, Mike Leach would bring a whole new system that would be welcomed by vols fans, that have been looking for a much needed spark.

...but we still keep chavis
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So I guess I can consider you in the Fire Fulmer Club? :good:

Yeah, Leach is the man.

About Chavis, he is a good coach but his schemes, like everyone else's on this god awful staff, are old and outdated. I wouldn't mind keeping Chavis if Leach is our head coach though.
 
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Leach looks good from a distance, but he looks like another flavor of the month to me.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2005 3:10 PM
Leach looks good from a distance, but he looks like another flavor of the month to me.
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true
I'm not going to be hopping on the fire fulmer bandwaggon just yet, But the fire randy sandards bandwagon i'm sure we're all on.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2005 2:10 PM
Leach looks good from a distance, but he looks like another flavor of the month to me.
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Flavor of the month or not, he has that fire. He has that competitve spark that Fulmer don't have anymore.

Besides, I think Leach is the real deal. He runs a spread attack, but it's more pro-style and seems like it's built to last.

Unlike Meyer's system.
 
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You might be right . . . All I'm saying is that nobody looks cooler than a hotshot coordinator from somewhere else.
 
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This is ridiculous. Fulmer has done more for Tennessee only second to Neyland. Yes Fulmer has the loyalty crap that annoys some but hes a good coach. Hes the winnignest active coach in the nation for a reason. Just a few staff chagnes will do and it will start with jimmy ray stephens and sanders(if things do not improve). just let the season run its course and then see what problems there are.
 
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Not that im taking sides on a point here, but as a devils advocate I think some folks are satisfied with 9-2 10-1 seasons as theyre good for the fan base and the university in terms of income, fan pride, etc. BUT some arent satisfied with anything less than national titles, and isnt that the goal you should shoot for when ya put on the pads in the spring? Some schools Fulmer would have had his hat handed to him with a severance check a few seasons back :twocents:
 
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I hear what you are saying, but some people just don't seem to get that winning games, much less National titles is hard. There's a reason Spurrier has only one MNC and it took Bobby Bowden 25 years of coaching before he ever won one. For me, it's not that I "settle" for 9 and 10 win seasons, I just believe that the reality is that if you are winning 9 and 10 games per year and in the hunt, that's all you can realistically ask for.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2005 3:24 PM
I hear what you are saying, but some people just don't seem to get that winning games, much less National titles is hard.  There's a reason Spurrier has only one MNC and it took Bobby Bowden 25 years of coaching before he ever won one.  For me, it's not that I "settle" for 9 and 10 win seasons, I just believe that the reality is that if you are winning 9 and 10 games per year and in the hunt, that's all you can realistically ask for.
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good point...and as we won one in 98 when I die Ill rest peacefully.
 
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Originally posted by duckman398686@Oct 15, 2005 3:07 PM
This is ridiculous.  Fulmer has done more for Tennessee only second to Neyland.  Yes Fulmer has the loyalty crap that annoys some but hes a good coach.  Hes the winnignest active coach in the nation for a reason.  Just a few staff chagnes will do and it will start with jimmy ray stephens and sanders(if things do not improve).  just let the season run its course and then see what problems there are.
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That's the same crap I hear from Fulmer strokers every single day. It's tired.

He has the winningest % because his career took off quickly, and he peaked quickly. (1998)

Since then he's produced, 5 losses to Georgia, 4 embarrasing bowl losses, 2 second-tier bowl wins, 2 embarrasing SECCG appearences, and a couple of road upsets.

Think about that for a second.

Staff changes are no longer the answer. The answer is to get rid of Fulmer and his staff. We're all fed up.

Fire Phillip Fulmer.

 
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I hate getting involved in this argument . . . but I think that's a perfect formula for how to become Ole Miss.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2005 3:35 PM
I hate getting involved in this argument . . . but I think that's a perfect formula for how to become Ole Miss.
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How so?

The University has been rubbing Fulmer's jock for 3 years too many.
 
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Originally posted by duckman398686@Oct 15, 2005 4:42 PM
because they screwed cutcliffe over and things werent that bad down there. look at what happened
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yeah i agree.

Chavis has done a good job this year as defensive coordinator and Fulmer is a good recruiter. We need to simplify our offense and give attention to special teams play. Do a better job of improving our talent. We looked good last year with a simplified offense and in 98.

Fulmer needs to give Sanders a free hand. Right now Sanders is running what Fulmer wants. The real offensive coordinator on this team is Fulmer. Fulmer is really the problem. Majors coached special teams when he was the head man and Fulmer inherited a team with solid special teams. Their poor play is a reflection on him.

Our position coaches arent getting these guys to develop, particularing at the oline, wr, and db position. though our dbacks are getting a lot better of late.

Our dline coach is doing a great job though, and so si the LB coach. the whole program doesnt need to be scrapped by no means.
 
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Ill - no offense, but you sound like the kind of guy that would complain after winning the $1 million lottery that you didn't get $2 million.

Changes need to be made, yes, but immediately cranking up ther fire Phil bandwagon is a little rash. Especially then to suggest hiring Mike Leach?!?! Theat guy is a moron and wouldn't know defense if it smacked him in the face.

I'll agree, changes need to be made, but this is Fulmer's opportunity to cement a legacy, to show that when the chips are down he can make the necessary changes and take us back to the promised land. If Fulmer doesn't make those changes, then I'll jump on your bandwagon.
 
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Originally posted by lll Communication@Oct 15, 2005 4:40 PM
How so?

The University has been rubbing Fulmer's jock for 3 years too many.
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First of all, 2 of the last 3 years we've won 10 games and won the SEC East. If you thought Nebraska got bad press after firing Frank Solich after a 9 win season, try firing the longest tenured head coach in the SEC after successive 10 win seasons and the year after a conference championship game appearance. Why would any coach in America want the job after that?
 
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Firing Fulmer is drastic at this point. I think that our program can be fixed without that.

We have 3 problems as far as I'm concerned.

1. OL run blocking
2. Receivers dropping passes
3. Special teams

I think that two coaching changes could be made and improve the team. It starts with the OL coach. Get someone else in there, fix the OL. If we had a better running game, our WR's wouldn't be dropping as many passes in the first place because some of those would be runs.

We HAVE to figure out something on special teams. Hire a good special teams coach and let him coach nothing but. I think that with good special teams play, we might not have 2 losses right now.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 15, 2005 9:43 PM
I think that with good special teams play, we might not have 2 losses right now.
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No joke. Look at the ST play in those two games. Talk about digging yourself a grave. Never in a million years did I think that our kicking game would cost us a chance at winning, but here it is, ya'll.

After a history of game-winning field goals, gold-footed punters, and a few wiley return men, we are left with nada this year. To the tune of two losses.
 
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We have no imagination on offense...where are the counters, the occaisonal reverse, and the tight end? Good lord, we went from Witten to kitten at tight end...
 
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Originally posted by surrealvol@Oct 16, 2005 12:16 AM
We have no imagination on offense...where are the counters, the occaisonal reverse, and the tight end?  Good lord, we went from Witten to kitten at tight end...
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I guess it's the theory that we can't do the simple stuff right most of the time. What would happen if we ran a reverse?
 
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I'll bet we didn't even line up with a tight end for more than about 10-15 snaps against UGA.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 15, 2005 10:43 PM
Firing Fulmer is drastic at this point.  I think that our program can be fixed without that.

We have 3 problems as far as I'm concerned. 

1. OL run blocking
2. Receivers dropping passes
3. Special teams

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you need to add to that list qb play. our qb play has been pretty bad after clausen was playing hurt. That and receivers dropping passes is killing us.

its embarressing the total lack of respect defenses have for our QB position. You say all the good things you want about clausen, but its obvious by the way defenses play us, they dont respect him, they dont fear playing tight, single coverage. The only thing they respect on offense is our back Riggs. The LB and safeties are all geared to stopping him.

In our opponents mind, the only thing our QB position can do is the short passing game, and all their defenses need to do is play a tight, man to man coverage. So far they are right.

Everyone talks about our glory years of 95 to 98. What made those special was we had really good QB play. Manning need i say more? And Tee Martin was very underrated. A very athletic qb, great runner, and probalby had the strongest arm of any UT qb. I think he could throw it further then anyone I ever saw.
 
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