Article on Yahoo Regarding Potential NCAA Football Violations Outcome

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I think there has to be some kind of real controls over NIL. Jimbo saying come to A&M and you will get this much money is just exactly what Tennessee is under the gun for now. Except now, it's out in the open and the NCAA either can't or won't do anything about it. Charlie Batch telling Caleb Williams if he transfers to Eastern Michigan he will get $1,000,000.00 is not legal as far as I can tell, but I guess it would require reading each state's NIL legislation to determine that. After Saban and Smart came out with statements that something has to be done to keep some schools from outright buying players, now the Alabama legislature is in the process of changing the NIL legislation they first wrote because it was not giving UA the freedom to follow the Texas NIL legislation. Any state legislature that doesn't write the NIL to reflect the same will keep any university in that state from ever competing with the states that are blatantly buying the top talent every year. Goodbye college football.
 
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IndianaVol said:
I see lots saying UT will be penalized for things that are now legal.

I'm confused though... isn't flat out giving cash to players or recruits still not legal?
Is that not what Pruitt and Company are accused of doing?

As I understand it, a NIL deal is much, much different as it can not involve a private party to hand over monies to a player. Rather it has to be a mutually beneficial agreement between the player and a corporate entity (business)...am I missing something?
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this is still against the rules and will continue to be against the rules. Universities and their employees cannot be involved in player payments. That is why we are where we are today.

It would take a massive rule change to allow that.

the proposed changes likely will have no impact on the Tennessee case. it is still moving at a snails pace.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
Can’t we simply tell the NCAA to shove it like LSU basketball did?
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I'm not sure we're at that point yet. My understanding is LSU requested all information (as to Wade) so that it could possibly take action. Up to now the NCAA hasn't really provided anything. LSU self reported football violations, some that happened 8+ years ago... and the stupid stunt by Beckham after the championship. The NCAA has combined it all into one investigation which has pissed LSU off basically reporting violations is stupid at this point. It was my understanding Wade was only interviewed this last fall by the NCAA, which is like 4-5 years after they kept saying they had dirt and contacted LSU.

The bigger problem is what the NCAA is trying to do, if they do it fully... can make them civilly or criminally liable under United States law.

Who knows how any of this plays out... but the NCAA is one big criminal organization they have really no business investigating compensation.

The days of the NCAA being involved in investigation compensation to players is all but over.
 
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Is there a poll out thereon VN with educated guesses on the outcome of the NCAA investigation?....
 
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Iam4utalways said:
What level of violation is it to let recruits participate in the Vol walk?
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The NCAA has two roulette wheels, one with infractions and the other with punishments. It could be a reprimand, it could be "SMU got off light in 1987 compared to what's about to happen to you".
 
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ArmchairQB said:
The NCAA has two roulette wheels, one with infractions and the other with punishments. It could be a reprimand, it could be "SMU got off light in 1987 compared to what's about to happen to you".
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I get there’s ways to corrupt recruits during the recruiting process, but participating in the Vol Walk, isn’t one of them and neither is simulating the Vol Walk.

I do like how it was blamed on the fans.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I get there’s ways to corrupt recruits during the recruiting process, but participating in the Vol Walk, isn’t one of them and neither is simulating the Vol Walk.

I do like how it was blamed on the fans.
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So much of it just seems ridiculous. Showing a prospective student too much about what their experience will be like at a university while they're visiting is a no-no, I guess. They're supposed to base their college decision on what, exactly? It's a riot that "UT basketball committed another violation because a recruit dribbled a ball on the Thompson-Boling Arena court during a photo shoot."
 
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ArmchairQB said:
So much of it just seems ridiculous. Showing a prospective student too much about what their experience will be like at a university while they're visiting is a no-no, I guess. They're supposed to base their college decision on what, exactly? It's a riot that "UT basketball committed another violation because a recruit dribbled a ball on the Thompson-Boling Arena court during a photo shoot."
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Sounds like it’s still ok to hold a basketball, just don’t go rogue and bounce, catch or throw.
 
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LordBolton said:
NIL is a fig leaf to allow exactly this to now be legal. Some fancy words on paper makes it all good, and a tax write off for the booster as a bonus!
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Actually, NIL was created by the SCOTUS and now the NCAA member schools are going to be forced to find a way to deal with the ramifications. Basically, the NCAA nor the schools can prohibit a S/A from seeking outside income but they can still police member institutions for pay for play schemes.

Of course, fans of schools with the resources will entice recruits and try to discourage current players from transferring with outside income but the staff members at the schools will have to stay at arms length. Of course, there has always been legal ways for boosters to get money to recruits and that won't really change.
 
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I mean..we were subjected to the utterances of Coach Conehead for three long years, aight? Is that not punishment enough?
 
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IndianaVol said:
I see lots saying UT will be penalized for things that are now legal.

I'm confused though... isn't flat out giving cash to players or recruits still not legal?
Is that not what Pruitt and Company are accused of doing?

As I understand it, a NIL deal is much, much different as it can not involve a private party to hand over monies to a player. Rather it has to be a mutually beneficial agreement between the player and a corporate entity (business)...am I missing something?
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Yes you are missing everything. Imagine the worst. That’s what is going on.

Form a non profit - give prospects a bunch of cash.
 
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