Article: "Home Improvement: Jones repairing relationships with TN high schools"

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Phat-Phil said:
It is in the past but it is still part of our history (and our recent history at that). So I don't see the problem with discussing it. Maybe it's just because it leaves such a sour taste in our mouths to read how incompetent the previous leader of our beloved program was and how he seemingly took for granted the opportunity he had. I think a lot of people would rather just not think about it anymore. But it's still interesting to me. It makes me wonder how much of a difference it would have made if we had a competent coach both on and off the field. I wonder how much better a guy like Bray would have been as well as our entire defense. But I know I'm in the minority on that.
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Crystallized our thoughts!...good job!
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OldVol49vfl said:
I tried to support Dooley as head coach even though he wasn't one of my choices for the job. After the Kentucky debacle in 2011, I completely gave up on him. Many of the home games in 2012 I could only sit with my head buried in my hands. I couldn't find a lot of reasons to stand up and cheer. It was dreadful. I even told my grandson that attends the games with me that this would be my last season for buying season tickets (after 40 years and not missing a home game in all those years) and he begged me to keep getting them. After Butch was hired I started getting the urge to go again and I ordered and have received my 2013 tickets. My grandson is happy and I feel good about Butch and Tennessee's future and I'm thrilled that Dooley is in Texas. :rock:
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I got so depressed watching the televised games and/or following the action online, that I'd close my eyes and assume the fetal position...you got out there and represented with your little guy! Much props
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The great irony of the Dooley era is that he began the VFL program and then proceeded to ignore recruits from the Volunteer State. The real take home message from this article, however, wasn't simply Dooley's failures in instate recruiting but how quickly, dramatically and positively Butch has impacted Tennessee high school coaches.
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
I tried to support Dooley as head coach even though he wasn't one of my choices for the job. After the Kentucky debacle in 2011, I completely gave up on him. Many of the home games in 2012 I could only sit with my head buried in my hands. I couldn't find a lot of reasons to stand up and cheer. It was dreadful. I even told my grandson that attends the games with me that this would be my last season for buying season tickets (after 40 years and not missing a home game in all those years) and he begged me to keep getting them. After Butch was hired I started getting the urge to go again and I ordered and have received my 2013 tickets. My grandson is happy and I feel good about Butch and Tennessee's future and I'm thrilled that Dooley is in Texas. :rock:
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That just ain't right fer texas...but I been lookin for dooley :)
 
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butchna said:
Whenever the subject of wins this season pops up...so does he. The gist is that we were so far down the pit, that Dooley needed at least five years to get us BACK to middle of the pack! We unfairly gave up on a future coaching icon and we deserve the plagues of Egypt as penance...for starters
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Yep. That's him. :good!:
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
Pretty much it. I believed in him heavily until we lost to Florida last year. It began to really slip after that. He completely lost me after Mississippi State. I should have read the signs better and admitted he was a faulty coach sooner. But I really thought he had the tools to get it done at some point. Hindsight is 20/20 and that obviously wasn't the case for Dooley.

But I'm honestly gonna be a sucker for any coach or player who puts on the orange. It's just how I'm wired.

That being said, something about Butch Jones does feel different.

Dooley did a great job of making me feel like he always had a plan to fix all of our problems. Butch has a unique way of making me feel like we don't have any problems, just a finite series of obstacles to climb that will lead us to inevitable success.

Go Big Orange
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Love the way you described the feeling with Butch, couldn't have said it better well done!
 
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What's scary is that a win over Vandy probably would have meant Dave Hart keeping Dooley.
 
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I agree. Dooley's ineptitude in that Mizzou game was the embodiment of coaching suckitude.
 
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Dooley cemented himself as worst UT coach in it's proud tradition. Personally, I'm done hearing or talking about him. Hope he enjoys the 11 million dollars he stole.
 
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All I can say is it's wonderful CDD is no longer here. We are now in an exciting era for Tennessee football and it's refreshing to have this staff in Knoxville. CBJ has been nothing short of spectacular thus far in his tenure...and I'm sure it's only gonna get better!!
Butch gon' Butch!!
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I love it how people say that Dooley did OK here because he developed the VFL program and brought our scholarship numbers up. Anyone could hire any idiot coach to do that---and we obviously did. As far as recruiting, I'd say the brand name of Tennessee brought the talented kids here. Heaven forbid you have to sell the program with a guy like Dooley's sweat equity. I'm just glad it's over and we can bury the worst coach in the history of the program.
 
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I really don't buy the stuff on Bell. If he was a huge UT fan growing up like he claims, he would have come to UT once Butch Jones started recruiting him. I think he's been less than honest about his affinity for UT to keep from getting too much heat for going to Ohio State.
 
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davethevol said:
I really don't buy the stuff on Bell. If he was a huge UT fan growing up like he claims, he would have come to UT once Butch Jones started recruiting him. I think he's been less than honest about his affinity for UT to keep from getting too much heat for going to Ohio State.
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^I agree.^ :good!:
 
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Aesius said:
I know there's always the "stop beating a dead horse" crew in Dooley threads, but I find bashing the hell out of him, and reading comments of other people bashing the hell out of him, to be cathartic. Especially after enduring his brand of ****ty recruiting and football for three years.
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You make a very convincing argument but I'm still gonna just let the dead lie... Lookin forward to this season but after my father just passed away it'll be kinda tough watching the games w/out him there
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
I tried to support Dooley as head coach even though he wasn't one of my choices for the job. After the Kentucky debacle in 2011, I completely gave up on him. Many of the home games in 2012 I could only sit with my head buried in my hands. I couldn't find a lot of reasons to stand up and cheer. It was dreadful. I even told my grandson that attends the games with me that this would be my last season for buying season tickets (after 40 years and not missing a home game in all those years) and he begged me to keep getting them. After Butch was hired I started getting the urge to go again and I ordered and have received my 2013 tickets. My grandson is happy and I feel good about Butch and Tennessee's future and I'm thrilled that Dooley is in Texas. :rock:
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I gave him til the 2012 Mizzou game. After that, I was DONE with him. I'm a little slow out of the gate I guess but I supported him because he was my teams coach. I am SO glad he is gone now. He must have just sat in his office with his head up his rear for 3 years! Butch is the best , so finally, we move forward!!
 
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423Volfan said:
I live about 2 minutes from Central High School where Vonn Bell played until he relocated to Georgia to play and I hate that Dooley couldn't lock him up. Kid should have been a Vol. I had a chance to watch him play and there's just absolutely no excuse for that kind of ineptitude by Dooley and his staff. Thank God he's gone because we got a guy in charge now that gets it.
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Anyone see the pre-season game between the Cowboys and the Raiders? Saw a couple of shots between plays of Dooley on the sidelines, and he still looks lost.

Yes, Vonn Bell was a take, and that we could have him in Orange right now still burns my guts.

My only concern is for Jason Witten. One of the best TE's in the NFL, and having Dooley as a coach, in my opinion, seriously hampers his chances for a Super Bowl ring. And he is one guy who deserves that chance.

I just hope Dooley doesn't start his shower discipline, or World War II stories there. It wouldn't be pretty.
 
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branchvol said:
You make a very convincing argument but I'm still gonna just let the dead lie... Lookin forward to this season but after my father just passed away it'll be kinda tough watching the games w/out him there
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Got my sympathies, Branch. Been there with my Mom. Tough is too small a word. I just tell myself I will see her again, soon enough.
 
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ukvols said:
What's scary is that a win over Vandy probably would have meant Dave Hart keeping Dooley.
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Don't think so. Because Dooley would have found a way to lose to Kentucky the next week. Again. And they would still be cleaning up from the ensuing carnage.
 
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It's sad how any strand of respect Dooley built for his efforts while here, vanishes with each new report after his departure.

I'm about convinced he would have torn the program down to KY status within a few years.
 
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