Arrogance on Northwestern Board

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BigOrange15 said:
It's interesting how everyone is disagreeing with aaronvol and yet, he has a degree in history and is 100% sure he's right. I want to see how this resolves.
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He sounds like the current academians ruining our students education with this mush. Sad....
 
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VolStrom said:
Is that the year Tellico Village opened?
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Not sure. I know it was the year after the Worlds Fair.

I left in 1980 and spent 25+yrs in the USAF. When I retired and moved back too Tennessee in 2005, it seemed my state had been taken over. Haha

My dad says it, the migration, started soon after the fair.
 
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A good source...Hillbillies and Rednecks | Scottish Tartans Authority

Hillbilly
The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled "Scots-Irish") settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.

Supporters of King William were known as Orangemen and Billy Boys and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as hill-billies. It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, 'Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!' and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, Marching Through Georgia.

I reckon history can and is revised... hang onto your class notes or memories.
 
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malinoisvol said:
Not sure. I know it was the year after the Worlds Fair.

I left in 1980 and spent 25+yrs in the USAF. When I retired and moved back too Tennessee in 2005, it seemed my state had been taken over. Haha

My dad says it, the migration, started soon after the fair.
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I like to refer to Tellico Village as Hub Cap Installer Village. There was a mass migration of retired auto workers that sold their crap row houses in Michigan and Ohio and moved to Tellico lake about that time.
 
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What you are saying about scots is correct. it has origins in ireland and scotland, but that is not the context we are speaking of in Appalachia. If you look at Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the word is used as a term for "michigan farmer". Two very different contexts. the context from ireland did not roll over to Appalachia...it is a separate use of the word with an altogether different meaning. seriously, just check it and see. and no I am not one of those new education folk that are ruining our understanding of history
 
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of course the meaning has changed form then to now, but that is what happens with language and culture. A football coach in Wales is the bus that takes you to the soccer game...a football coach here is Butch Freaking Jones. So, this may be where the confusion is coming from.
 
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I just never once learned that Michiganders made up any of the settlements in Appalachia. My class taught us that the settlements near the northernmost parts of Appalachia tended to be German and slowly transitioning into your Amish people. The Scots-Irish (not pure Irish, sorry about that mix-up as it's been a couple years since the class) came in from Boston and New York, went through the areas settled by those Germans, and moved down the Appalachian Mountains to get into the areas of the Virginias, Kentucky, Tennessee, and North Carolina. I can't recall why they went immediately south-southwest, whether it was money, religion, or other forces (like not being welcomed into the area by those who had already settled).
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
Significant settlement of the North Carolina Territory which later became Tennessee began in the mid 18th Century. It was predominantly settled by Protestent Ulster Irish or Scots-Irish as they became known in America. Evidence of those people dominates if not defines the Appalachian culture. It's seen in the dialect, music and countless other traditions and was well defined before the civil war.
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My family history in Jackson and Haywood counties goes back to before the Cherokee removal.

Some English names and blood but a lot of Scottish too.

You are right. The culture and ethnic heritage of the southern Appalachians was distinct from the rest of the country and south.
 
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sjt18 said:
My family history in Jackson and Haywood counties goes back to before the Cherokee removal.

Some English names and blood but a lot of Scottish too.

You are right. The culture and ethnic heritage of the southern Appalachians was distinct from the rest of the country and south.
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I am from Appalachia as well. Originally from Clintwood, VA. I am 100% Scotch Irish. Good roots...but I am not a hillbilly :)
 
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BigOrange15 said:
It's interesting how everyone is disagreeing with aaronvol and yet, he has a degree in history and is 100% sure he's right. I want to see how this resolves.
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Google makes a degree in history a bit obsolete :)
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Watch Mike & Mike.
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Madscientistvol said:
Just like calculators make mathematics and engineering degrees obsolete?
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A joke is a joke. I was six hours from a history degree when I graduated from UT. A degree in engineering is more useful than a history degree.
 
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