Armenian - Turkish relations:

[VOLatile]

I feel sorry for your children, gs.

 

[gsvol]

I'm not sure Gibbs even knows what planet he's on.

Giblet and a few of his likeminded comrades live in
a place called La-La land, it exists only in their own
minds.

I feel sorry for your children, gs.

And I feel sorry for your parents, unlike you they
are probably well rounded, level headed people.

 

[MG1968]

If that were true where would that leave you??

The record speaks for itself as far as Obama is concerned, no need for any conspiracy theory.

Obama is even more profuse in his praise of islam that Hitler.

Barack in Berlin: Is Obama Speech Site Contaminated by Nazi Past? - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Obama calls the PM of Turkey, Erdogan, his 'close friend'.

Erdogan denies the Armenian genocide and is on record as proposing the revival of the Ottoman empire and establishment of a world wide caliphate.

BTW, when the Turks were slaughtering about 2 million Christian Armenians they also killed about a Million Greek Christians and almost a million Assyrian Christians.

Obama praises the muslim brotherhood and has his appointees describe them as secular. In WWII our four main foes were Hitler's nazis, imperial Japan, the muslim brotherhood (represented mainly by the Ottoman Turks but the mb is and was international in scope, raising SS divisions in Bosnia that were so brutal that some of Hitlers military officers protested to Hitler, and all accross the mideast as irregulars,) and Italy's Il Duce who took on the title; 'protector of islam.'

BTW, if not for Hitler the mb would still be sitting around a campfire somewhere in the desert burning camel dung.

The Muslim Brotherhood has close historical ties with the Nazi and neo-Nazi movements.

It has to be one of two things, Obama is lying his ass off or he is a bungling fool on the level of Jimmy Carter.

The Shah who headed up the most technically advanced, most secular and most American friendly government in the mideast but was deposed on humanitarian reasons just as is being touted in the case of Mubarak in Egypt.

During his Presidency, Jimmy Carter didn’t only abandon support for the Shah for his alleged human rights violations. He also gave support to Khomeini.

Carter administration officials also expressed support to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. William Sulivan, Carter’s ambassador to Iran, said, “Khomeini is a Ghandi-like figure.”

Carter adviser James Bill said that Khomeini is not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

“Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint,” said Andrew Young, Carter’s ambassador to the UN.

Guess what, the mullah controled, holocaust denying government of Iran has put to death 100 as many Iranians in less time than the Shah did in forty years.

So much for human rights.

Today Obama praises the muslim brotherhood, Mohamed Atta was a member of the mb, so is Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's second in command.

The muslim brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat because he made peace with Israel and have made about nine attempts to assassinate Mubarak because he maintains the peace. Egypt is the only arab (or Persian) country in the middle east that doesn't consider itself at war with Israel and dedicated to the eradication of that state and it's people also if possible. This is also the stance of the muslim brotherhood.

Birds of a feather flock together.

I don't know who you flock with but you can flock off as far as I'm concerned.

well, that settles it. Obama is no better than Hitler and the Turks who, between them, have murdered well over 10 million people.

to be honest, I think they might be building a gas chamber up the road from my house. East Tennessee is full of veterans and gun nuts, I'm sure we're high on Obama's pogrom list.

 

[gsvol]

well, that settles it. Obama is no better than Hitler and the Turks who, between them, have murdered well over 10 million people.

to be honest, I think they might be building a gas chamber up the road from my house. East Tennessee is full of veterans and gun nuts, I'm sure we're high on Obama's pogrom list.

Your absurdity is exceeded only by that of LG and
slightly at that.

Go ahead and cling to your guns and religion and
while you are at it try to consider Obama's actions
concerning such matters.

When he was campaigning for the presidency he chose
to speak in front of the Victory Column in Germany
where Hitler had placed it.

He did renege on his promise to pressure the Turks
to recognize and take responsibility for the Armenian
genocide. The second country Obama visited after
taking office was Turkey and not one word was
mentioned about any genocide.

His first speech after taking office was in Egypt
where he profusely praised islam and even went
so far as to absurdly distort history to honor
islam falsely.

He specifically invited members of the muslim
brotherhood to attend that speech which
Mubarak did not attend. He has avidly cheered
on the mob rule overthrow of Mubarak while
almost totally ignoring protests in Iran. (BTW
al-Jazeera and CNN who gave us wall to wall
coverage in Egypt hardly mentions protests and
harsh crackdowns by the mullah led Iranian government.)

Obama called for the inclusion of the muslim brotherhood
in the Egyptian government but not one word has
he uttered to protest the exclusion of Egyptians
Christians from talks about a new constitution etc.

Inside the Beltway - Washington Times

Now on bookshelves: “Deconstructing Obama:
The Life, Loves and Letters of America’s First
Postmodern President” by Jack Cashill, published
by Simon & Shuster.

The new book uncovers “major discrepancies
in the accepted narrative” of President
Obama‘s life, particularly his earliest years.
Mr. Cashill says the news media is indifferent to
such information. He’s also convinced that former
University of Illinois professor Bill Ayers — who co-
founded the radical Weather Underground in 1969
— helped craft “Dreams From My Father,” the
president’s much-acclaimed memoir.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out
where Obama's sympathies really lie.

Come on even you can do that. :yess:

Your silly ridicule doesn't do anything to clarify these
issues, on the contrary it makes you look like a
doofus. :loco:

 

[MG1968]

oh, I agree. Obama should go ahead and start wearing the Death's Head and SS logo on his suit jacket instead of the American flag.

Sources say that next week, he's going to invite the ancestors of the Turks who committed the Armenian genocide and present posthumous awards for their contribution to a better planet.

Obama will then turn Bill Clinton over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague for having the audacity to come to the rescue of a Muslim minority during the Balkans conflict.

You are so right on this, gs. You literally are opening my eyes to the real world outside my back door. Hats off and huzzah to you, good sir. :hi:

 

[gsvol]

oh, I agree. Obama should go ahead and start wearing the Death's Head and SS logo on his suit jacket instead of the American flag.

Sources say that next week, he's going to invite the ancestors of the Turks who committed the Armenian genocide and present posthumous awards for their contribution to a better planet.

Obama will then turn Bill Clinton over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague for having the audacity to come to the rescue of a Muslim minority during the Balkans conflict.

You are so right on this, gs. You literally are opening my eyes to the real world outside my back door. Hats off and huzzah to you, good sir. :hi:

Bat guano!

You should start a rock band, I suggest you call it;
'Sore Tail Tom and the Sourpusses.' :hi:

 

[JTrainDavis]

oh, I agree. Obama should go ahead and start wearing the Death's Head and SS logo on his suit jacket instead of the American flag.

Sources say that next week, he's going to invite the ancestors of the Turks who committed the Armenian genocide and present posthumous awards for their contribution to a better planet.

Obama will then turn Bill Clinton over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague for having the audacity to come to the rescue of a Muslim minority during the Balkans conflict.

You are so right on this, gs. You literally are opening my eyes to the real world outside my back door. Hats off and huzzah to you, good sir. :hi:

I've kicked around the board for a while, so i blocked GS and think of what he says to dictate MG's responses. Makes for a fun game.

 

[milohimself]

Godwin's in one post. Awesome

Thinking of starting 3-day bans for any comparisons or mentions of Hitler or the Nazis when not directly discussing Hitler or the Nazis.

This place would be a barren wasteland in a week.

 

[JTrainDavis]

Thinking of starting 3-day bans for any comparisons or mentions of Hitler or the Nazis when not directly discussing Hitler or the Nazis.

This place would be a barren wasteland in a week.

Let it fly, man

 

[DynamiteMcGhee]

Bat guano!

You should start a rock band, I suggest you call it;
'Sore Tail Tom and the Sourpusses.' :hi:

I can play trumpet and a mean pair of spoons. Call me MG.

 

[JTrainDavis]

GS, Joe, and the Aryan Nation

First Single would be "The house next door to me has been sold to n*****rs"

 

[VOLatile]

Thinking of starting 3-day bans for any comparisons or mentions of Hitler or the Nazis when not directly discussing Hitler or the Nazis.

This place would be a barren wasteland in a week.

Many posters that respond to me would be banned, I'm sure.

 

[gsvol]

Thinking of starting 3-day bans for any comparisons or mentions of Hitler or the Nazis when not directly discussing Hitler or the Nazis.

This place would be a barren wasteland in a week.

Is this close enough???

The Muslim Brotherhood

An important aspect of the Muslim Brotherhood ideology is the sanctioning of jihad such as the 2004 fatwa issued by Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi making it a religious obligation of Muslims to abduct and kill U.S. citizens in Iraq.

The Brotherhood's founder, al-Banna, was a devout admirer of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime.

Bosnian Moslems recruited the Nazi SS by Yasser Arafat's 'Uncle'

Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the "Islamische Zentralinstitut" and the whole Islamic community of Germany, which welcomed him as the "Führer of the Arabic world."
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To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious "Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia’s Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages.
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The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.
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Hitler became known as "Abu Ali" (In Egypt his name was "Muhammed Haidar"). The banner of the PPS displayed the swastika on a black-white background.

Here is one account of the kind of war waged by muslim SS troops:

During our journey toward the hill of Javor, near Srebrenica and Ozren, all the Serbian villages which we came across were wholly massacred. In the villages between Vlasenica and Kladanj we discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes, their small limbs still distorted by pain, resembling insects stuck through by pins.

The above quote is from:
"Assassins au nom de Dieu"
Author: Herve Lauriere
Paris, 1951, page 58

Hitler's Revival

In Ibrahim Muydaris' speech, "Extermination of the Jews and subjugation of the Christians--Inevitable Goal of History" he reveals six goals for Hamas and the Islamic world. Note the similarities to that which Hitler wrote and preached during his rise to power.

Mein Kampf in East Jerusalem and the Palestinian Authority

An Arabic translation of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is being distributed by Al-Shurouq, a Ramallah based book distributor, to East Jerusalem and territories controlled by the Palestinian Authority (PA). According to Agence France Presse (Sept. 8), the book, previously banned by Israel, has been allowed by the PA and is 6th on the Palestinian best-seller list.

Mideast Dispatch Archive: Mein Kampf is a bestseller in Turkey for second month in a row

Attached is an article from yesterday's Los Angeles Times speculating on the reasons why Mein Kampf has appeared on the bestseller list of Turkey's two largest bookstore chains for the second month in a row.
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Last year, Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan made back-to-back accusations of Israeli "terrorism" and recalled its ambassador.

Remember this is the guy who Obama descrobes as his 'close friend.'

Mein Kampf: Best seller in Muslim Bangladesh | Middle East news, analysis, opinion | the Crethi & the Plethi

There is little surprise in the news that a book by Adolf Hitler is a bestseller in Bangladesh, or any other Muslim country for that matter. Hitler is widely revered by Islamists for what he did to the Jewish people.

Arabic and other editions of the book continue to be published and sell well across the Muslim world (it can be found even in Arab districts here in London, if one looks hard enough and in the right places.
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Mabul, 15, is among many boys who risk the chaos of Dhaka’s roads to earn a living selling pirated copies of popular paperbacks. Among his offerings are The Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama,

Hitler?s ?Mein Kampf? on India?s best sellers list — RT

The book that outlined the political ideology of Nazi Germany has found an audience in India. Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” is banned in countries that suffered from fascism, but New Delhi booksellers are enjoying strong sales.

In India, which escaped many of the horrors of the Second World War, Adolf Hitler's “Mein Kampf” is consistently on the best-seller list. Jaico Publishing House first published the book twelve years ago, and has since sold over 100,000 copies.

The Nazis and the muslim brotherhood are practically inseperable and those who appologize for the muslim brotherhood are either idiots with bat guano for brains or are in league with them.

 

[milohimself]

Truly epic. Good work, gs.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

 

[gsvol]

Truly epic. Good work, gs.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

Those who don't learn from the history are condemned to repeat it.

Wonderful: Muslim Brotherhood’s “spiritual leader” to preach in Tahrir Square tomorrow Hot Air

Qaradawi’s emergence in Egypt could mirror Khomeini’s return to Iran from exile,..

This is a man who also praises Adolph Hitler.
He was banned from Egypt after the assassination of Anwar Sadat.

Qaradawi's Ominous Return to Egypt :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an influential Muslim Brotherhood theologian, promises to be in Egypt's Tahrir Square to deliver a sermon at Friday's prayer service.
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A sermon from him on the first Friday after Mubarak's ouster could be hugely symbolic as the Brotherhood tries to exert influence over the direction Egyptian society takes. And it will trigger memories of the 1979 Iranian revolution, which took a dramatic turn when Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini returned from exile in France.

Qaradawi's jihad - Jihad Watch

This paper explains, as its title has it, "what is new about Qaradawi's jihad." In the course of so doing, it sets out in illuminating detail what the old, i.e., the established and mainstream, theology of Islamic jihad consists of.

Surprise of surprises, it involves warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers, contrary to the self-righteous charges of "ignorance," "racism," and "Islamophobia" that Muslims in the West regularly direct at those non-Muslims who have the temerity to point out this fact.

Qaradawi's jihad is a bit less lethal for unbelievers, but its difference from the traditional view is actually more tactical than principled. After all, Qaradawi has predicted that Islam will soon conquer Europe, but that this conquest will come not "by the sword but by preaching and ideology."

Meanwhile the muslimcbrotherhood claims to the right to retake all lands stolen from them including most islands in the med, the Iberian penensula, southern Italy and elsewhere incucing the Balkans.

NO Happy Clappy Democracies: MSNBC‘S Mika Shocked Because Pictures From Egypt Seem So Nice While Harvard’s Niall Ferguson Schools Her on Muslim Brotherhood & Caliphate | The Blaze

Can you say 'a historian who will NOT be invited back to msnbc anytime soon??'

Spencer on Qaradawi: Egypt's New Hitler - Jihad Watch

And the things that Qaradawi tells the millions of Muslims that he reaches are anything but moderate. In January 2009, during a Friday sermon broadcast on Al-Jazeera, he prayed that Allah would kill all the Jews: "Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one." He also declared: "Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the [Jews] people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by [Adolf] Hitler."...

DC would be well acquainted with him since DC is fond of watching al-Jazeera which he says has no agenda.

Volatile is another fan of al-jazeera.

Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi: Theologian of Terror: Introduction

Qaradawi continues to endorse Palestinian suicide bombings against Israeli civilians. In his latest major work, Fiqh (Jurisprudence) of Jihad (2009), Qaradawi chastises those Muslims who do not observe jihad as an obligatory duty, including participation in "physical jihad" if capable. A significant portion of the book is dedicated to legitimizing suicide bombing, or "martyrdom operations," which Qaradawi casts as a "defensive jihad against oppression."
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Qaradawi, who has also expressed support for targeting American forces and civilians in Iraq........

Not to fear though, MG, Barry Hussein, Jimmy Carter and the flaming bundle of twigs at the NY Slimes tell us these are real swell guys and heaven forbid that anyone point out they have about the same mindset as Adolph Hitler.

 

[MG1968]

when did I ever say they were swell guys? You get really temperamental when someone disagrees/mocks/criticizes you.

Have you considered anger management or perhaps Midol?

 

[gsvol]

when did I ever say they were swell guys? You get really temperamental when someone disagrees/mocks/criticizes you.

Have you considered anger management or perhaps Midol?

And do you EVER try to have an intelligent discussion about ANY topic rather than trying to start some silly childish pissing contest??

And the sorriest, most cowardly aspect of that equation is that you run off and complain to a board monitor or to the Freak himself about how you are being abused.

Reminds me of modern day moslem tactics.

Do you deny that the muslims have close historical ties to the nazis??

Clue, that's why politically incorrect people refer to them as islamo/fascists.

Do you deny that BHO has very close ties to the muslim brotherhood and he aids and abets them in Egypt as well as other places including the USA???

Egyptian Hitler Al-Qaradawi encourages Muslim revolution during Friday prayers - Vancouver American Politics | Examiner.com

'Obama met Muslim Brotherhood members in U.S.' - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

U.S. President Barack Obama met with members of Egypt's Islamist opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, earlier this year, according to a report in Thursday editions of the Egyptian daily newspaper Almasry Alyoum.
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According to the report, the members requested that news of the meeting not be publicized.

Muslim Brotherhood Granted ?Direct Access? To Taxpayer’s Stimulus Grants By Obama! Political Vel Craft

September Surprise: The Muslim Brotherhood-associated “Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations” (CCMO) will bring 25-30 Muslim leaders of 20 national Muslim groups to attend a special workshop presented by the White House and U.S. Government agencies (Agriculture, Education, Homeland Security, Health and Human Services etc.) to provide the groups “funding, government assistance and resources.”

The workshop will apparently provide special access for these Muslim Brotherhood organizations: the organizers pledge to provide “direct access” and “cut through red tape.” Government and Muslim groups will hold an Iftar dinner (breaking the fast of Ramadan) after the workshop.

So what is your counter point???

You don't have the first inkling about whom you are trying to screw with.

Ignorance is one thing and has a remedy but when compounded by stupidity it's as dangerous as a hand grenade with the pin out.

Try not to blow up! :hi:

 

[MG1968]

when it comes to your topics, gsvol, a childish pissing contest is the only worthwhile end result.

Why would I complain to a moderator or Freak? The only abuse around here is through your use of bandwidth because you post so many asinine pictures. You may think I'm afraid of you on some level, keep dreaming. This is an internet message board and we're all 10 feet tall and bulletproof.

To some of your other points (when a cogent point can be determined):

yes, I'm aware that the Nazis and Islamic fascists worked together during WWII.

yes, it's disturbing that Obama met with the MB. Perhaps he's as naive as his DNI and believes the MB is really the Islamic equivalent of the Boys and Girls Club. We are in agreement that Obama is a pathetic President and that he doesn't see the world in the same way that we do.

None of that creates the equation: Obama = Turkish perpetrators of Armenian genocide + Hitler

I don't like Obama, but I'm not going to start calling him a murderer let alone a genocidal madman, especially when he's admitted he eats bacon.

 

[bam15]

gsvol deserves a prize.

 

[gsvol]

I can play trumpet and a mean pair of spoons. Call me MG.

So you are saying you are a sourpuss??

GS, Joe, and the Aryan Nation

First Single would be "The house next door to me has been sold to n*****rs"

What little I know about the aryan nation tells me they are very antisemitic, from what I've read of Joe's post and I know what I've posted, I havn't seen any evidence of ire toward the Jews.

when it comes to your topics, gsvol, a childish pissing contest is the only worthwhile end result.

Why would I complain to a moderator or Freak? The only abuse around here is through your use of bandwidth because you post so many asinine pictures. You may think I'm afraid of you on some level, keep dreaming. This is an internet message board and we're all 10 feet tall and bulletproof.

To some of your other points (when a cogent point can be determined):

yes, I'm aware that the Nazis and Islamic fascists worked together during WWII.

yes, it's disturbing that Obama met with the MB. Perhaps he's as naive as his DNI and believes the MB is really the Islamic equivalent of the Boys and Girls Club. We are in agreement that Obama is a pathetic President and that he doesn't see the world in the same way that we do.

None of that creates the equation: Obama = Turkish perpetrators of Armenian genocide + Hitler

I don't like Obama, but I'm not going to start calling him a murderer let alone a genocidal madman, especially when he's admitted he eats bacon.

That's a tad bit better, next post you can dispense with the personal insults if you will.

Obama isn't naive, to even think so is to be delusionally naive yourself.

Obama claims that Ayers is just someone who lives in the neighborhood but he worked closely with Ayers on a daily basis for eight years.

Some say they even babysat one anothers children.

Ayers gave Obama his first real position after college and held the first fund raiser at his home when Barry was running for state senate in Illinois.

Ayers has been a visitor to the White House at least five times since Obama took office.

Ayers probably was the ghost writer of 'dreams of my father', a supposed Obama autobiography.

Ayers once told an undercover FBI agent that after the revolution that about 25 million Americans would have to be 'eliminated' because they couldn't be reeducated.

News | Fromtheold.

According to "Die Afrikaner" they sell about 9000 machettes a month in Pretoria North. There are no serious sugar fields that however would require anyone to sell 9000 machettes a month close to Pretoria where they are being sold.

The night of the long knives or as people that speak Afrikaans might know it as "die nag van die lang messe" is a story, some would say it is a myth and others still stand thereby that it will happen. The fact is that there is enough evidence to believe the theory and enough history to learn from that this event might become a real reality in the near future.

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.

Oh wait, you have no one to pray to other than Obama, my bad.

gsvol deserves a prize.

If you are thinking of nominating me for the Nobel, don't, I refuse to be added to a list that includes Jimmy Carter, Yasser Arafat, Al Gore and Barrack Hussein Obama.

 

[MG1968]

That's a tad bit better, next post you can dispense with the personal insults if you will.

Obama isn't naive, to even think so is to be delusionally naive yourself.

kind of makes your pleas for civility ring hollow when you're completely incapable of being civil yourself.

 

[gsvol]

kind of makes your pleas for civility ring hollow when you're completely incapable of being civil yourself.

What was uncivil about my post?

To what or whom do you pray??

Do you pray at all?

Throughout this whole thread all you have done is take cheap shots at me and have failed to address the topic of the thread, ie; Turkish - Armenian relations.

Do you perhaps have any thoughts on that topic? :hi:

 

[MG1968]

What was uncivil about my post?

To what or whom do you pray??

Do you pray at all?

Throughout this whole thread all you have done is take cheap shots at me and have failed to address the topic of the thread, ie; Turkish - Armenian relations.

Do you perhaps have any thoughts on that topic? :hi:

you ask me to refrain from personal insults, then call me "delusionally naive". I take that as a personal insult. Should I take it as a compliment?

I'm agnostic, so I don't pray.

 

[NewToVolCountry]

Kim was so fine

 

[gsvol]

you ask me to refrain from personal insults, then call me "delusionally naive". I take that as a personal insult. Should I take it as a compliment?

I'm agnostic, so I don't pray.

So then you really think the problem may be that Obama is simply naive and has nothing at all to do with his real ideology??