Arkansas USED Tennessee Fans To Land Peters

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Your average 18 year old puts more stock in social media, message boards, and half-baked tweets than most folks realize. I certainly don't think ignorant fans is sole reason for a recruit choosing one school over the other but I can't see how anyone says it has no impact. If an opposing coach can say, 'Look Otha, here's over 600 posts taken from all the major sites stating that CDD is going to get canned,' how can anyone possibly think it's not going to give pause for thought. The kid might not immediately buy it but a seed is definitely planted.
 
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DD Sounds like Bill Curry with all this year zero stuff, Curry quit Bama because fans expectations were to high and DD will soon do the same at TN. Look at Ohio st if you want to see how an elite recruiter works under pressure.
 
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If Dooley can't out slander Patrino we are in deep. You've got to be either a great gameday coach or a great recruiter. We are looking avg. All dooley needed to do was call Ortha up last night and say hey here at UT we want what's best for you and your future, here's the background on your new coach. If he's someone you feel is going to be a positive influence on you good luck.
 
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If you put 2 bad seasons aside and some bad coaching decisions you still get fans on here that are over reacting. Yes you have a right to be upset but some on here are negative recruiting the players because of how they act. I'm not talking about everyone but there are some that are just down right negative or mean.

I know that recently we have found out that many people do read these forums. MZTERRY, Otha's family, and the Berry Twins. If we keep digging we will see much more from previous years. I personally think that some know this and think that if they try to make the situation worse then they can help force the hand that fires Dooley. That isn't fair to give him a real chance. 2 hard years isn't going to answer any questions but I agree (as does Dooley) that this year will show what he is made of.

Post your thoughts but going into their threads and saying some harsh words that have no place on this forum or anywhere doesn't help anyone.

To think that this doesn't matter would be ignorance and delusional.
 
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Problem is some so called fans cannot help from coming on boards and crowing to the world whats wrong with our program mindlessly thinking that someone cares what they think........when in reality........."Nobody cares what you think".....but some do hear what they say, and sadly, make decisions that are detrimental to the program....
but yet they continue their tirade against the program they profess to support; why, well there are several reasons: immaturity, need to feed their wanna be ego, need for attention, need to release frustration over other things in their life that they cant seem to cope with, and on and on.............Fact is they are not helping the program they profess to support; they are trying to tear it down and rebuild it in their own image............... okay off my soapbox now
 
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Tux said:
As we have seen, there are many Tennessee fans who do not live in the real world. They failed to understand the reality of the Vols football program and the shape that it was in, when Derek Dooley took over.

The program was almost completely devoid of any SEC talent. Despite this glaring fact, some of our fans thought that we should beat the likes of LSU, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas.

We lost a game that we should have won and our fans threw a temper tantrum that opposing coaches used against Tennessee in the recruiting process. In the end, tour own fans cost us Otha Peters and almost LaDarrell McNeil.

Arkansas used the vitriol expressed towards Derek Dooley by our unrealistic fans base and Otha Peters bit and took the bait, hook, line, and sinker. You can try to deny that this was not the case, the the reality is that Arkansas's coaches used you, used your emotions, and your confused viewpoint of the Vols football program to help them and harm our program.

Think about what the consequences of your temper tantrums may be before posting them. How much longer do you want to work against the best interests of the tennessee Volunteers Football Program?
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I think coaches in the SEC say things like that to get recruits that Tennessee are after.But no way would tell a recruit not to go to Tennessee based on our fan base.That would be kind of a lame reason.Just my opinion.
 
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Tux said:
As we have seen, there are many Tennessee fans who do not live in the real world. They failed to understand the reality of the Vols football program and the shape that it was in, when Derek Dooley took over.

The program was almost completely devoid of any SEC talent. Despite this glaring fact, some of our fans thought that we should beat the likes of LSU, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas.

We lost a game that we should have won and our fans threw a temper tantrum that opposing coaches used against Tennessee in the recruiting process. In the end, tour own fans cost us Otha Peters and almost LaDarrell McNeil.

Arkansas used the vitriol expressed towards Derek Dooley by our unrealistic fans base and Otha Peters bit and took the bait, hook, line, and sinker. You can try to deny that this was not the case, the the reality is that Arkansas's coaches used you, used your emotions, and your confused viewpoint of the Vols football program to help them and harm our program.

Think about what the consequences of your temper tantrums may be before posting them. How much longer do you want to work against the best interests of the tennessee Volunteers Football Program?
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Or it could have been the new SUV he got
 
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I agree that some of the comments here are over the top, but if a guy chooses a school based on something posted here, he is not very intelligent. Every fan base has a**holes, including ours. He needs to choose a school based on his personal needs.

This is a message board and people come here to post OPINIONS. Whether you agree or not , that is what people do. The negavols have the right to be negative nancys. Yes, it is tiresome, but so is this "we can't ever say anything bad because, if we do, some kid won't come play here" crap. If that is what sways a kid not to come here....HE WASN"T GOING TO COME HERE ANYWAY! JMO
 
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Bobby720 said:
So your trying to say that this site and others sway the thoughts of recruits?:post-4-1090547912::post-4-1090547912::post-4-1090547912:
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Absolutely, though potentially not directly. This, and sites like it, influence the larger media who in turn influence the recruits.

In other words, negativity does have an impact, like it or not.
 
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Listen up numbskulls. OP is not saying a kid bases his decision based on a message board. It's the unrealistic expectations of mouth breathing 7th grade educated morons that **** themselves silly when we lose a game and go on the talk radio and other media to spit their idiocy. 5 other idiots sitting at home hear him and suddenly there's six of ya now and it grows exponentially from there. Suddenly there's "rumors" that Dooley's gonna be fired within the year. WHERE THE FU.CK DO YOU THINK THOSE "RUMORS" START!? HUH? Allow me to spell it out for you.

It starts with you filters to media and OPPOSING COACHES spit that sh.it around the recruiting trail. TRUE OR NOT, does a recruit want to go to a school when the guy that recruited him is gone after a year??? Not usually. So then you get sh.it like what happened with Peters, YES U GOOBERS ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. Go root for Vandy ya bunch of whiny azz babies. I'm done
 
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The corollary to this is that you think we could go to Florida boards and pretend to be Florida fans who are pissed off. This would then scare away Florida recruits.

I'll get right on that!! I was unaware I wielded this much power in the recruitment process!
 
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daj2576 said:
Absolutely, though potentially not directly. This, and sites like it, influence the larger media who in turn influence the recruits.

In other words, negativity does have an impact, like it or not.
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Then why don't all these negative post about Alabama's over signing and probation hurt Saban's recruiting?

Believe it or not Dooley is a nobody to anyone out of the state of TN. I live in AL, and I have never heard a negative word said about DD. With a record as bad as his, DD has become an afterthought to all other major coaches.
 
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Smokeyman said:
Listen up numbskulls. OP is not saying a kid bases his decision based on a message board. It's the unrealistic expectations of mouth breathing 7th grade educated morons that **** themselves silly when we lose a game and go on the talk radio and other media to spit their idiocy. 5 other idiots sitting at home hear him and suddenly there's six of ya now and it grows exponentially from there. Suddenly there's "rumors" that Dooley's gonna be fired within the year. WHERE THE FU.CK DO YOU THINK THOSE "RUMORS" START!? HUH? Allow me to spell it out for you.

It starts with you filters to media and OPPOSING COACHES spit that sh.it around the recruiting trail. TRUE OR NOT, does a recruit want to go to a school when the guy that recruited him is gone after a year??? Not usually. So then you get sh.it like what happened with Peters, YES U GOOBERS ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. Go root for Vandy ya bunch of whiny azz babies. I'm done
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I don't think beating Kentucky and getting bowl eligible is an unrealistic expectation for a coach at the University of Tennessee. Maybe I'm crazy for setting such a high bar.
 
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be happy with the class we have and welcome these young men that signed with us.i mean DA**.it could have been better with peters and santos but they made poor decisions, imo.good luck to them.we will have 4 extra scholarships for next year.i bummed too but greatful for the young men ready to give their all for TN.been a vol fan for almost thirty yearsand i still say ITS GREAT TO BE ATN VOL.
 
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SGMVols said:
I don't think beating Kentucky and getting bowl eligible is an unrealistic expectation for a coach at the University of Tennessee. Maybe I'm crazy for setting such a high bar.
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Maybe I'll give you that, but the HURR DURR FIRE DOOLEY on the spot bs that was spewed afterwards? No. My point is still valid.
 
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It's almost like the staff has nothing to do with the bashings. Freaking fans are causing all the problems and are the reason we looked silly on offense after the loss of one WR.
 
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daj2576 said:
Absolutely, though potentially not directly. This, and sites like it, influence the larger media who in turn influence the recruits.

In other words, negativity does have an impact, like it or not.
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this all other coaches have to do is say come here look at my computer and see what folks about your new coach
 
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Smokeyman said:
Listen up numbskulls. OP is not saying a kid bases his decision based on a message board. It's the unrealistic expectations of mouth breathing 7th grade educated morons that **** themselves silly when we lose a game and go on the talk radio and other media to spit their idiocy. 5 other idiots sitting at home hear him and suddenly there's six of ya now and it grows exponentially from there. Suddenly there's "rumors" that Dooley's gonna be fired within the year. WHERE THE FU.CK DO YOU THINK THOSE "RUMORS" START!? HUH? Allow me to spell it out for you.

It starts with you filters to media and OPPOSING COACHES spit that sh.it around the recruiting trail. TRUE OR NOT, does a recruit want to go to a school when the guy that recruited him is gone after a year??? Not usually. So then you get sh.it like what happened with Peters, YES U GOOBERS ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. Go root for Vandy ya bunch of whiny azz babies. I'm done
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Who, exactly, is whining again?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It's almost like the staff has nothing to do with the bashings. Freaking fans are causing all the problems and are the reason we looked silly on offense after the loss of one WR.
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No one is saying that.

get it through your head that constant negative fans can drive people away just like a nagging wife
 
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PowerWookie said:
this all other coaches have to do is say come here look at my computer and see what folks about your new coach
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absurd. Sorry coaching begets unhappy fanbases. Avoid going 5-7 with embarrassing style losses and the fanbase won't go there. Anyone expecting a fanatical crowd to remain happy after what we witnessed is retarded.

If you want to get your head out of your ass long enough to read the tea leaves, 2/3 of the staff jumping ship provided every nail the coffin needed. The retardation about fan sentiment is just stupid. Guys like Petrino simply pointed out the rats leaving the ship and that's more solid than anything anyone on any board anywhere could have said.
 
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SGMVols said:
I don't think beating Kentucky and getting bowl eligible is an unrealistic expectation for a coach at the University of Tennessee. Maybe I'm crazy for setting such a high bar.
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You have to get over yourself and your expectation for hte greater good of the team sometimes.
 
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PowerWookie said:
No one is saying that.

get it through your head that constant negative fans can drive people away just like a nagging wife
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It got through my head and it registered as utterly retarded. All losing teams have similar fans and all in the SEC have multitudes of retards posting.
 
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Vols033 said:
I'll agree with you OP. Obviously if Dooley wins none of this is even considered. But since he is not winning, ANY negative coming out of our program can and will be used against us. Now I'm not gonna blame this board for the problems with our football team. This board didn't make our team collapse in the second half of nearly every game. This board didn't make our team lose to a horrible Kentucky team with a WR at QB. This board hasn't been the reason for back to back losing seasons. But, I gaurantee that this board and our unsettled fan base have been brought up in living rooms across the country, and in one case, the kid trusted what he heard and went elsewhere. Best of luck Otha.
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FINALLY a rational and logical post.. Right on the money...

However, good luck getting the ' we're all gonna die' crowd to actually read it with an OPEN mind and understand it...
 
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