Arkansas is improved. Why aren't we?

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So you can focus on their positives but not the Tennessee Vols positives?

You didn't comment at all about them losing to South Carolina.
But you'll mention us losing to Ga State.

Hey man if you want to dwell on Tennessee losing....then go ahead.

But it's a complete waste of life, to "cheer" for a team that all you do is complain about.

I'm not dwelling on anything. Butch won nine games twice at tennessee and took over from friggin Dooley. Did Butch need to go? Yes. But what improvement are you speaking of? The last year of Butch showed he needed to go. Were you a Butch supporter at the time? Are you saying improvement based on the results of Butch's last season and his last season alone? It's ridiculous how our fans just give this staff a pass. I guess I've followed this team long enough where losing to Georgia State and BYU but beating USC and UK isn't "improvement"
 
I'm not dwelling on anything. Butch won nine games twice at tennessee and took over from friggin Dooley. Did Butch need to go? Yes. But what improvement are you speaking of? The last year of Butch showed he needed to go. Were you a Butch supporter at the time? Are you saying improvement based on the results of Butch's last season and his last season alone? It's ridiculous how our fans just give this staff a pass. I guess I've followed this team long enough where losing to Georgia State and BYU but beating USC and UK isn't "improvement"

But it IS.
Do you understand that was the beginning of the season?
We beat MSU, UK, USC, VAN, MIZZOU, UAB all at later dates. Almost all of those teams are better than BYU or Ga State who we lost to earlier in the year. YES. That is the definition of improvement.

Butch? He's gone. He was 4-8 his last season and struggled developing players.
Pruitt and his "disastrous " coaching staff have yielded 5 Freshman All-Americans over his two seasons. A 1st team All-Conference safety and 5 overall players on All-Conference teams this season.

This is the CURRENT situation.
CURRENTLY on a 5 game win streak.
CURRENTLY preparing for a bowl game, when we haven't bowled in 2 seasons.
CURRENTLY have a top 10 or 15 recruiting class that is not yet complete.

That is the CURRENT situation. So I chose to focus on that REALITY. Why?? Because I love the Tennessee Vols.

Why would I spend my time complaining about stuff that can't be changed?
 
@CrybabyVol you a dummy head dummy. And yor mama left her stuff at my house, so come get it, boy.

This is the level you want VolNation.com to be at, right? I can only infer that from the immaturity of some of your posts in this thread.

To be a bit more mature and focused: if you can not see the significant improvement in this team and program over the course of the past two years, particularly the last three months, then you truly do not undertand what you're seeing when you watch the Vols play.

We're not perfect, not by a long shot...but we're getting better fast.

Go Vols!
 
Completely changing both the offensive and defensive philosophies and the necessary personnel changes to go along with it takes time. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised in how quickly Pruitt has been able to change it up. On top of it all, he has had to change the mentality of the team and getting the kids to buy in sometimes NEVER happens. Our team may need some players, but they are getting tough - both mentally and physically. That is something that I haven't seen here in a while. That sounds like improvement to me.
 
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@CrybabyVol you a dummy head dummy. And yor mama left her stuff at my house, so come get it, boy.

This is the level you want VolNation.com to be at, right? I can only infer that from the immaturity of some of your posts in this thread.

To be a bit more mature and focused: if you can not see the significant improvement in this team and program over the course of the past two years, particularly the last three months, then you truly do not undertand what you're seeing when you watch the Vols play.

We're not perfect, not by a long shot...but we're getting better fast.

Go Vols!

Cite the improvement outside of this recruiting class. Which I have been steadfast in that I believe is a great step. Besides that, what is the improvement? Fewer turnovers against Florida? Playing closer with Alabama? Beating a wounded USC team? Keeping it close with BYU? Praise is earned not deserved. I have given plenty of praise to CJP for this recruiting cycle. The recruiting cycle also could still improve. But as I have said again and again and again, and what is conveniently ignored by people who attack me is that CJP was not left an empty cupboard. He was not left in a situation where he shouldn't be able to beat the bottom feeders of the conference. He was not left in a situation where he should lose to GA State and BYU. He was not left in a situation where he should be humiliated by UF (whose team was in a very similar situation) for two years straight. His first two seasons on the field have been awful. If you are content with beating vandy, usc, uk, and mizzou then I'm glad. I am not. Those shouldn't have been measuring sticks year one much less year two.

So please. Cite to me the "significant improvement"
 
This is an easy one, which you have been told before. I suspect you will ignore it again.

Improvement == going from losing to Ga State, the #111 team in Sagarin Ratings, and BYU (#64), to beating Mississippi State (#38), USCe (#52), Kentucky (#35), etc.

Improvement is lads who couldn't be bothered to win turning into lads who refused to lose.

Improvement is individuals turning into team.

Again...if you can not see that, or refuse to acknowledge it because "they're all trash teams, they're nobodies", then you don't understand football and how it works very well.
 
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This is an easy one, which you have been told before. I suspect you will ignore it again.

Improvement == going from losing to Ga State, the #111 team in Sagarin Ratings, and BYU (#64), to beating Mississippi State (#38), USCe (#52), Kentucky (#35), etc.

Improvement is lads who couldn't be beothered to win turning into lads who refused to lose.

Improvement is individuals turning into team.

Again...if you can not see that, or refuse to acknowledge it because "they're all trash teams, they're nobodies", then you don't understand football and how it works very well.

Right back at ya bud. CJP has proven nothing. Hope that changes next year. Were you one of the posters arguing in August of 2018 and August of 2019 that we had as much talent as Florida? I always wonder how those posters have now become the "we just need to improve the roster to compete with the Mizzous." I completely disagree with your position that improvement goes from losing to BYU to beating USCe.
 
Right back at ya bud. CJP has proven nothing. Hope that changes next year. Were you one of the posters arguing in August of 2018 and August of 2019 that we had as much talent as Florida? I always wonder how those posters have now become the "we just need to improve the roster to compete with the Mizzous." I completely disagree with your position that improvement goes from losing to BYU to beating USCe.
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I'm not dwelling on anything. Butch won nine games twice at tennessee and took over from friggin Dooley. Did Butch need to go? Yes. But what improvement are you speaking of? The last year of Butch showed he needed to go. Were you a Butch supporter at the time? Are you saying improvement based on the results of Butch's last season and his last season alone? It's ridiculous how our fans just give this staff a pass. I guess I've followed this team long enough where losing to Georgia State and BYU but beating USC and UK isn't "improvement"
Are you on drugs ? 6-1 finish after going 10-19 in the previous 29 games is improvement.
 
@CrybabyVol you a dummy head dummy. And yor mama left her stuff at my house, so come get it, boy.

I can only infer that from the immaturity of some of your posts in this thread. To be a bit more mature and focused: !

I LOL'd at this. Hey pot, let me introduce you to kettle.....
 
@CrybabyVol you a dummy head dummy. And yor mama left her stuff at my house, so come get it, boy.

This is the level you want VolNation.com to be at, right? I can only infer that from the immaturity of some of your posts in this thread.

To be a bit more mature and focused: if you can not see the significant improvement in this team and program over the course of the past two years, particularly the last three months, then you truly do not undertand what you're seeing when you watch the Vols play.

We're not perfect, not by a long shot...but we're getting better fast.

Go Vols!
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Are you on drugs ? 6-1 finish after going 10-19 in the previous 29 games is improvement.

That is absolutely the worst logic in the world. So accomplishing what we should have been able to accomplish in the first place is improvement? Let me make this easier for some of you guys. What game are you proud of this year? Are you ashamed of any games? I am not proud of one victory, and I am ashamed by two losses. Giving the staff an improvement sticker is giving them accolades for something they should have been able to accomplish in year one. How is Mullen doing? How is Smart doing? They were hired at very similar times.
 
I LOL'd at this. Hey pot, let me introduce you to kettle.....
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That is absolutely the worst logic in the world. So accomplishing what we should have been able to accomplish in the first place is improvement? Let me make this easier for some of you guys. What game are you proud of this year? Are you ashamed of any games? I am not proud of one victory, and I am ashamed by two losses. Giving the staff an improvement sticker is giving them accolades for something they should have been able to accomplish in year one. How is Mullen doing? How is Smart doing? They were hired at very similar times.
You’re not proud of one victory? Maybe that’s your problem. I’m always happy when UT wins but then again I’m an actual fan
 
That is absolutely the worst logic in the world. So accomplishing what we should have been able to accomplish in the first place is improvement? Let me make this easier for some of you guys. What game are you proud of this year? Are you ashamed of any games? I am not proud of one victory, and I am ashamed by two losses. Giving the staff an improvement sticker is giving them accolades for something they should have been able to accomplish in year one. How is Mullen doing? How is Smart doing? They were hired at very similar times.
It is you who are in a “no logic zone”. If you cannot see statistically or by observing the on field progress especially with the defense or OL then there is not much hope for you. As far as being proud , I am proud of all 7 wins and even the games against Georgia/Alabama because we were competitive at times in those games when I thought we would not be.
 
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That is absolutely the worst logic in the world. So accomplishing what we should have been able to accomplish in the first place is improvement?.

My avatar could understand better than you.

Let me slow it and dumb it down for you.

It has been said many times. JP just said it twice above. No one is saying we are where we want or should be. Got that? Do you need me to repeat it? No one is saying we are where we want or should be. We are NOT. Not even Close yet. We are not where we want to be or should be.

We started of worse than terrible. Many thought that's where we were and gave up. The team did not up like they did last year. We only won 5 games last year. We started off really bad but improved over the rest of the season. THAT is improvement within itself.

We didn't go to a bowl last year. I bet you are one of the ones bishing about not getting a better bowl. We are going to a bowl this year.

It is not what we would like it to be. But it is improvement.

Do you understand? You do not have to agree. We do not have to agree. But for the love of Scarlett Johansson please tell me you understand.
 
My avatar could understand better than you.

Let me slow it and dumb it down for you.

It has been said many times. JP just said it twice above. No one is saying we are where we want or should be. Got that? Do you need me to repeat it? No one is saying we are where we want or should be. We are NOT. Not even Close yet. We are not where we want to be or should be.

We started of worse than terrible. Many thought that's where we were and gave up. The team did not up like they did last year. We only won 5 games last year. We started off really bad but improved over the rest of the season. THAT is improvement within itself.

We didn't go to a bowl last year. I bet you are one of the ones bishing about not getting a better bowl. We are going to a bowl this year.

It is not what we would like it to be. But it is improvement.

Do you understand? You do not have to agree. We do not have to agree. But for the love of Scarlett Johansson please tell me you understand.

You're wasting your time. he's just a crybaby.
 
You do not have to agree. We do not have to agree. But for the love of Scarlett Johansson please tell me you understand.
I really like Scarlett Johannsson.

And Beth Johannsonn, the character in that movie where Matt Damon goes camping on Mars for 4 years.

I like both Johannsons.


EDIT and p.s. Wait, what were you talking about?
 
You're wasting your time. he's just a crybaby.
I know but I got time to waste at the moment and I don't mind wasting it on someone named crybaby that used my dogs picture in a way to attempt insulting me. Lol.

Its not hard to understand. I wish we had won every game, JG was gonna be the Heisman winner, we had the #1 offense and #1 defense, Pruitt was National CotY, we were ranked #1 and getting ready for the playoffs.

But we're not. We have a coach that's in his second year as a HC in the SEC. He's learning on the job and took over a pretty big mess. He probably shouldn't have been hired....but he was.

This is where we are. Not where we should be or want to be. Like it or don't like it we're all in the same boat.

You can either suck it up and enjoy the ride, or CRY about it.
 
That is absolutely the worst logic in the world. So accomplishing what we should have been able to accomplish in the first place is improvement? Let me make this easier for some of you guys. What game are you proud of this year? Are you ashamed of any games? I am not proud of one victory, and I am ashamed by two losses. Giving the staff an improvement sticker is giving them accolades for something they should have been able to accomplish in year one. How is Mullen doing? How is Smart doing? They were hired at very similar times.

Tennessee has improved, you are wrong. Changing the mentality in the locker room has happened. Pruitt has incorporated a winning mentality. Proud of the goal line stand at Kentucky.
Recruiting isn't about stars, its about filling needs. Last years recruits contributed and if this class is the same, the purge of the Butch mentality is real.
Offensive staff with Chaney, Winke, Martin etc have shown the players are getting to a point to understand their system. Hope we keep them
Last loss was a long time ago, 6 out of the last 7 were wins. Hell yes proud to get wins. Last year they were L's.
Looks like you are so sour on this staff, team, school that I'm amazed you are a Vol. You obviously are being tortured by this team.
 
I know but I got time to waste at the moment and I don't mind wasting it on someone named crybaby that used my dogs picture in a way to attempt insulting me. Lol.

Its not hard to understand. I wish we had won every game, JG was gonna be the Heisman winner, we had the #1 offense and #1 defense, Pruitt was National CotY, we were ranked #1 and getting ready for the playoffs.

But we're not. We have a coach that's in his second year as a HC in the SEC. He's learning on the job and took over a pretty big mess. He probably shouldn't have been hired....but he was.

This is where we are. Not where we should be or want to be. Like it or don't like it we're all in the same boat.

You can either suck it up and enjoy the ride, or CRY about it.

I'm actually guessing the comment wasn't insulting ...
 
It is you who are in a “no logic zone”. If you cannot see statistically or by observing the on field progress especially with the defense or OL then there is not much hope for you. As far as being proud , I am proud of all 7 wins and even the games against Georgia/Alabama because we were competitive at times in those games when I thought we would not be.

I don't award achievement medals for things that are expected. You and many others do. We just have to agree to disagree on that. Those victories are not to be commended but expected. So far in two years there have been unexpected losses. You are setting a false barometer. I am not.

You think nine wins and four losses next year is improvement. I do not.
 
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