Arizona State

[PhoenixAZVol]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

 

[Eastknox865]

Pruitt is the head coach but he is not the only coach. I don't know what the problem is but it's hard to believe that none of our coaches are good at what they do.

 

[livefaith]

Pruitt is the head coach but he is not the only coach. I don't know what the problem is but it's hard to believe that none of our coaches are good at what they do.

Does it really matter who the head coach or the assistants are. No matter who we being in the suck when they contact here and we look bad year after year. Then they leave and everything seems peachy for them.

? Why?

 

[I40flyer]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

Beautiful, well written, and hard hitting post, Go Sun Devils! There are none so blind as those that will not see...far too many UT Fans can't see Pruitt is Not the Answer, the sooner we hire a Real Football Coach, the sooner UT Football will, once again, be UT Football.

 

[VOLnMiami]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

I swear to god I was trying to think of a way to start a thread on those guys...Edwards has those youngsters believing they can do anything...Coaching makes a difference...Some people have a very hard time grasping that fact...He is doing this with a bunch of freshman and sophs...I believe his freshman qb was the top duel threat qb in last years class...He is leading that team like a boss!

 

[Volatility]

If Pruitt doesn’t work out, we really need to hone in on a coach that can actually develop players, not just recruit them.

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

You're 100% right. I'm sick of the constant excuses we are handed for why there are all these special rules that only apply to our team.

 

[Chilmonty]

My biggest worry when Pruitt was hired was his ability to motivate players.
Herm Edwards on the other hand is a master at motivation.
Seems that worry was justified! JMO

 

[cwbytruckers]

Arizona State, California and yes Michigan State would hammer UT right now. So I dont get the comparison. We have talent that is freshman and sophomores. We dont have talent that is leaders in our upperclassmen to help us out. Basically we suck. But we will get better. Even if it's under a new coach or Pruitt. We need stability in the term recruiting. Not MAC or AAC size players. It's really simple to see where we went wrong. Got to coach the Jones out of our upperclassmen and recruit depth.

 

[TJVol95]

Cal is overrated early. Glad ASU beat them.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Arizona State, California and yes Michigan State would hammer UT right now. So I dont get the comparison. We have talent that is freshman and sophomores. We dont have talent that is leaders in our upperclassmen to help us out. Basically we suck. But we will get better. Even if it's under a new coach or Pruitt. We need stability in the term recruiting. Not MAC or AAC size players. It's really simple to see where we went wrong. Got to coach the Jones out of our upperclassmen and recruit depth.

Did you even read the origial post?

 

[VolinSippi]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

I think most people are overlooking the fact that Pruitt took over a dumpster fire. Decisions from the top administrators from over a decade ago have consequences. I'm not making excuses for the guy, just considering both sides.

 

[BearBryant]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

The more I read on here, the more I see most of you posters have no clue about anything. Pruitt is going to be an outstanding coach.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

#15 Cal barely beat Ole Miss.

 

[peerless98]

Does it really matter who the head coach or the assistants are. No matter who we being in the suck when they contact here and we look bad year after year. Then they leave and everything seems peachy for them.

? Why?

Butch says hello. He’s a clipboard holder BTW.

 

[1985Vols]

Arizona State, California and yes Michigan State would hammer UT right now. So I dont get the comparison. We have talent that is freshman and sophomores. We dont have talent that is leaders in our upperclassmen to help us out. Basically we suck. But we will get better. Even if it's under a new coach or Pruitt. We need stability in the term recruiting. Not MAC or AAC size players. It's really simple to see where we went wrong. Got to coach the Jones out of our upperclassmen and recruit depth.

I call BS. Trey Smith, Jennings, Chandler, Warrior, Bituli just to name a few upper class men

 

[Roustabout]

Pruitt is the head coach but he is not the only coach. I don't know what the problem is but it's hard to believe that none of our coaches are good at what they do.

I think UGA feels damn lucky that we took muumuu off their hands.

 

[GetEmVols]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

Pruitt’s first coaching job vs Herm Edwards. Really? Herm has MUCH more experience than Pruitt.

 

[OrangeByBirth]

My biggest worry when Pruitt was hired was his ability to motivate players.
Herm Edwards on the other hand is a master at motivation.
Seems that worry was justified! JMO

My concern is that the Botch recruits were never motivated to play at UT. They were recruited based on speed or some other factor - not because of their desire to play at UT. It was a nice facility to practice for their upcoming NFL careers. How'd that work out for 'em?

It is simply going to require a culture change. That change is not forthcoming from the upper classmen. It is going to require building from the bottom up -- foundation first -- not by stacking bricks.

There have been 3 coaches at UT from the triad area west of I-24. Two of them were very good with each producing a national championship team (1 at UT/1 at Pitt). If the 3rd can reach those levels, patience will be rewarded.


GO BIG ORANGE!

 

[Memphisvol87]

People here find a team that performs well one night, then call for absolute bloodshed. It’s so pathetic how short minded and fragile our fan base in here is.

Let’s consider the actual shape of our roster.
The amount of turnover the past 10 years.
The roster turnover the past 10 years.
The total lack of dedication to winning by our admin the past 10 years.

We have 4 seniors, a handful of juniors that contribute, the rest have been in a college program for 6-18 months. And that is where the majority of our depth lies.

We have one of the worst rosters in FBS from a depth perspective and that’s not changing for the next few years regardless of who y’all think could do better.

 

[tastycar]

Arizona State, California and yes Michigan State would hammer UT right now. So I dont get the comparison. We have talent that is freshman and sophomores. We dont have talent that is leaders in our upperclassmen to help us out. Basically we suck. But we will get better. Even if it's under a new coach or Pruitt. We need stability in the term recruiting. Not MAC or AAC size players. It's really simple to see where we went wrong. Got to coach the Jones out of our upperclassmen and recruit depth.

You can't keep blaming Butch Jones forever. But somehow you will...

 

[Vfl2407]

Pruitt is the head coach but he is not the only coach. I don't know what the problem is but it's hard to believe that none of our coaches are good at what they do.

They all should have resigned after Ga State.
That inexcusable result probably set us back a couple of more years in our seemingly endless quest to return to even mediocre status.
And, no, I won’t just “get over it”.
It was the most humiliating and damaging loss in modern UT history.

 

[volfannbama]

Coaching matters

 

[The Original Fade]

There is no other sport on any level where the head coach matters more than in college football

 

[Zues1]

My kids go to Arizona State so I follow their team out here in Phoenix. I guarantee you their players were not rated/ranked as highly as Tennessee’s. I don’t think they have even cracked the Top 25 in recruiting the past few years. They have a true freshman qb who is starting. Yet they are playing lights out and just beat #15 Cal. They also beat a ranked Michigan State a few weeks ago. I rarely see ASU make mistakes, especially mental errors. I saw a very creative offensive game plan with a nice mix of running and passing plays. I didn’t see a single pass thrown backwards. This is what ‘coaching up’ looks like. Pruitt, on the other hand, can only be successful if he gets more talent. Watching teams like ASU make this a very weak argument and make our poor coaching performance this year even more obvious. I’m talking about Herm Edwards here. The man had never coached college before and had been out of coaching for more than 10 years. What’s Pruitt’s excuse again?

I've never been a fan of passing the ball behind the line of scrimmage or bubble screens. IMO you're setting the Wr's and RB's to get hammered, hurt.
Run the dang ball and pass downfield beyond the first down marker. I just don't get this idea of throwing the ball 4 yards on 3rd and 8. Expecting your " play makers" to break a play.