Arizona Election Audit

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Does anyone really believe these audits are going to do anything? The election cannot be reversed. Trump cannot become president this year or anytime in the next 12. Kamala the ho Harris will win in 2024 and 2028.
 
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utvols88 said:
Lol. Might as well source hunter himself with that crap. 😂😂
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It's true. Hunter Biden was never the subject of an investigation by Ukrainian officials. Burisma Holdings was... but that was for illicit activity which had allegedly taken place prior to Hunter Biden joining their board.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's true. Hunter Biden was never the subject of an investigation by Ukrainian officials. Burisma Holdings was... but that was for illicit activity which had allegedly taken place prior to Hunter Biden joining their board.
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So Hunter likes gas and Joe hates it. Got it.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Does anyone really believe these audits are going to do anything? The election cannot be reversed. Trump cannot become president this year or anytime in the next 12. Kamala the ho Harris will win in 2024 and 2028.
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It's not about Trump. It's about safeguarding our future elections. Got to go back to paper ballots
 
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VolinWayne said:
It's not about Trump. It's about safeguarding our future elections. Paper ballots
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BS. It has everything to do with Republicans placating Trump's ego, and his losing the 2020 Presidential Election. If Trump had won, Republicans in Arizona wouldn't care about the "safeguarding of our future elections". They would accept the results as valid with no questions asked. How do I know this? Because they didn't audit results following the 2016 Presidential Election.... and the electoral college vote totals were the same then, as they are now (306 to 232).

... and let's face it, if the Republication-controlled Arizona State Legislature's primary mission was simply to arrive at the truth, they would have hired someone other than Doug Logan's firm "Cyber Ninjas Inc." to conduct their audit. Doug Logan has posted provably false claims about Dominion Voting Systems on the website of Trump attorney, Sidney Powell, which she is now being sued for.

Logan has also called the 2020 Presidential Election "rigged". An independent auditor should never pick sides like that, and make a conclusive determination before the audit has even started. It's unprofessional and his company should not be thought of as an objective finder of fact as a result. It's pretty clear why Logan's company (based out of Florida) was chosen. The Republican Arizona State legislature hand-picked "Cyber Ninjas Inc." because they didn't want an objective audit... they wanted someone who would conclude what they want to hear - and Logan already has.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Does anyone really believe these audits are going to do anything? The election cannot be reversed. Trump cannot become president this year or anytime in the next 12. Kamala the ho Harris will win in 2024 and 2028.
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If the Democrats keep up this pace they will burn through any benefit of the doubt and remorse will set in.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
BS. It has everything to do with Republicans placating Trump's ego, and his losing the 2020 Presidential Election. If Trump had won, Republicans in Arizona wouldn't care about the "safeguarding of our future elections". They would accept the results as valid with no questions asked. How do I know this? Because they didn't audit results following the 2016 Presidential Election.... and the electoral college vote totals were the same then, as they are now (306 to 232).

... and let's face it, if the Republication-controlled Arizona State Legislature's primary mission was simply to arrive at the truth, they would have hired someone other than Doug Logan's firm "Cyber Ninjas Inc." to conduct their audit. Doug Logan has posted provably false claims about Dominion Voting Systems on the website of Trump attorney, Sidney Powell, which she is now being sued for.

Logan has also called the 2020 Presidential Election "rigged". An independent auditor should never pick sides like that, and make a conclusive determination before the audit has even started. It's unprofessional and his company should not be thought of as an objective finder of fact as a result. It's pretty clear why Logan's company (based out of Florida) was chosen. The Republican Arizona State legislature hand-picked "Cyber Ninjas Inc." because they didn't want an objective audit... they wanted someone who would conclude what they want to hear - and Logan already has.
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To be fair, you should've said this was in your opinion.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
BS. It has everything to do with Republicans placating Trump's ego, and his losing the 2020 Presidential Election. If Trump had won, Republicans in Arizona wouldn't care about the "safeguarding of our future elections". They would accept the results as valid with no questions asked. How do I know this? Because they didn't audit results following the 2016 Presidential Election.... and the electoral college vote totals were the same then, as they are now (306 to 232).

... and let's face it, if the Republication-controlled Arizona State Legislature's primary mission was simply to arrive at the truth, they would have hired someone other than Doug Logan's firm "Cyber Ninjas Inc." to conduct their audit. Doug Logan has posted provably false claims about Dominion Voting Systems on the website of Trump attorney, Sidney Powell, which she is now being sued for.

Logan has also called the 2020 Presidential Election "rigged". An independent auditor should never pick sides like that, and make a conclusive determination before the audit has even started. It's unprofessional and his company should not be thought of as an objective finder of fact as a result. It's pretty clear why Logan's company (based out of Florida) was chosen. The Republican Arizona State legislature hand-picked "Cyber Ninjas Inc." because they didn't want an objective audit... they wanted someone who would conclude what they want to hear - and Logan already has.
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If Trump had won, the Dems would be trying to impeach him again. Just like they did when Hillary lost. The outrageous behavior is coming from both sides. Why pretend it's one sided, or that one side is somehow less guilty of it. Hillary lost in 2016 and Dems lost their mind. They were all about Russia collusion and impeachment. Trump loses in 2020 and Republicans lose their mind and demand recounts and audits and refuse to accept it. It's coming from both sides. People need to stop pretending it's only the other side doing it.
 
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Weezer said:
If Trump had won, the Dems would be trying to impeach him again. Just like they did when Hillary lost. The outrageous behavior is coming from both sides. Why pretend it's one sided, or that one side is somehow less guilty of it. Hillary lost in 2016 and Dems lost their mind. They were all about Russia collusion and impeachment. Trump loses in 2020 and Republicans lose their mind and demand recounts and audits and refuse to accept it. It's coming from both sides. People need to stop pretending it's only the other side doing it.
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The difference is Russian interference was proven. Election fraud has not.
 
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AM64 said:
In other words they've got Biden's idiot son under control for the time being, damage control has Ukraine sealed off, and they don't want some old clown named Rudy screwing up the containment because they are way too busy keeping another old fool named Biden from screwing things up.
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Weezer said:
If Trump had won, the Dems would be trying to impeach him again. Just like they did when Hillary lost. The outrageous behavior is coming from both sides. Why pretend it's one sided, or that one side is somehow less guilty of it. Hillary lost in 2016 and Dems lost their mind. They were all about Russia collusion and impeachment. Trump loses in 2020 and Republicans lose their mind and demand recounts and audits and refuse to accept it. It's coming from both sides. People need to stop pretending it's only the other side doing it.
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I'm not pretending that anything is one sided. The topic of this thread has nothing to do with the 2016 Presidential Election. This thread concerns the 2020 Presidential Election and an audit which is currently taking place in the state of Arizona.

Also, when analyzing the conduct of the two respective losing candidates in the last two elections, instead of the entire parties, you see a big difference in how they both reacted to the loss. Hillary Clinton never claimed that she was cheated. She never referred to the 2016 Presidential Election as having been "rigged". She didn't call individual Secretaries of State around the country and plead with them to "find the votes" needed for her to overturn the result. She didn't file over 50 law suits, and she didn't boycott Donald Trump's inauguration. She did, however, give a gracious concession speech the day after the 2016 Presidential Election.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March of 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians
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@LouderVol

I explained that in post #687 of this thread.
 
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Septic said:
You did a fine job of walking that back, it's almost like you've had practice.
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. I simply explained my point but I’ll take your stand down as a compliment. You usually don’t let go so easily. Have a great weekend Sep, I’m sure we will chat again sometime.
 
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