Arizona Election Audit

You seem to have a problem with Arizona's election audit. You don't believe that their state legislation who is charged by our constitution to preside over their elections, has the right to audit or investigate it how they see fit? You're right on many things, but contradict yourself here.

You probably should get an interpreter to help you since it’s obvious you have trouble with English and comprehension.
 
This is the type of quip that sounds really great when you share them with colleagues but is utter horse manure.

You have yet to show audit and recount are the same event. You have yet to show an audit has law with which auditors need to comply.

I am looking for some honesty today. It may be too much to ask, tbh.
If you want honesty you'll need to try a different forum.
 
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I mispoke regarding the GOPs argument. It was regarding an audit. I thought we had cleared that up. The constitutional rights of citizens must always be safeguarded. You guys are making this way too complicated.

The GOP is not arguing there is no law with which they need to comply. They are arguing they don't have a duty to comply with the law. And again, it is not an argument you make while complying with the law.

Don’t lawyers argue in court every day how laws do or do not apply to different circumstances and situations?
 
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I mispoke regarding the GOPs argument. It was regarding an audit. I thought we had cleared that up. The constitutional rights of citizens must always be safeguarded. You guys are making this way too complicated.

The GOP is not arguing there is no law with which they need to comply. They are arguing they don't have a duty to comply with the law. And again, it is not an argument you make while complying with the law.
I'm not sure how the rights of citizens are being compromised? Are they really, or is that just the left's argument for opposing the audit? Do we not also have a Constitutional duty to safeguard our elections? Truthfully, the whole system has gone to pot, and partisan politics has left those in the middle confused as to who is being truthful because both sides have continuously lied to us. We've seen our government weaponized to fight political battles, with no consequence. And honestly, the most glaring examples have come from the left. Remember filegate from the Clintons or the IRS audits? I'm sure Republicans have done it too, but apparently hide it a little better. I don't trust either side, and think both capable of doing anything in the name of control and power.

But end of the day, this audit is pointless. The results can't be trusted, and nothing will result from it anyway.


It's incredibly sad that we can't trust the legitimacy of our own government.
 
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This is a hilarious statement. So much TDS. If you're a citizen of this country and you're ok with the possibility of having unfair elections, don't ever expect any unity. I don't care who the candidate is. Trump is nothing more then a name at this point. Don't get that twisted.

BS.

Trump is the first (loser) to say the election was rigged. You are just falling in line like a sheep. You didn't think about voter fraud before 2020. Be honest
 
How can I seek victim status for a party and people I don't support? Are you claiming that if a Democrat had secured this treaty it wouldn't be considered a major accomplishment and been lauded?

How can you? You tell me.

I'm not claiming anything other than events actually have to actually happen before one can reasonably balk, feign outrage and claim someone is being hypocritical. Otherwise, the outrage is manufactured and would undermine and dilute claims of actual hypocrisy. This is the crux of my initial point, you and others love to play to be a victim - when actual circumstances don't hold water, circumstances are manufactured to maintain the illusion of being oppressed. This is just a light version of the "deep state" conspiracy.
 
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How can you? You tell me.

I'm not claiming anything other than events actually have to actually happen before one can reasonably balk, feign outrage and claim someone is being hypocritical. Otherwise, the outrage is manufactured and would undermine and dilute claims of actual hypocrisy. This is the crux of my initial point, you and others love to play to be a victim - when actual circumstances don't hold water, circumstances are manufactured to maintain the illusion of being oppressed. This is just a light version of the "deep state" conspiracy.
Good Lord, if you can't see a difference between the way "mainstream" media and platforms treat the views and rhetoric from both sides differently then there really is no point in having this discussion. There is a bias and differential treatment.

This has nothing to do with "deep state" conspiracies.
 
Good Lord, if you can't see a difference between the way "mainstream" media and platforms treat the views and rhetoric from both sides differently then there really is no point in having this discussion. There is a bias and differential treatment.

This has nothing to do with "deep state" conspiracies.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better about it.

You ginned up outrage at something that didn't happen and claimed it was hypocrisy.

Don't do that, I'll make fun of you if you do.
 
BREAKING: Maricopa Audit Continues! New Judge Concerned About ‘’Constitutional Rights’’ Of Voters In Maricopa County! - The True Defender !

They cannot stop the audit, and below, we present you with a couple of reasons why.
  1. It is the most transparent audit ever! The officials placed nine cameras that transmit the audit and auditors’ work LIVE at AZAudit.org; It isn’t mandated by Arizona law. The auditors provide it, so all the people can see what is happening.
  2. Maricopa county has previously performed an audit but of a few ballots. Their scope was minor, and they allowed the invalid ballots to be included in the final results. Only little assurance was provided that the election was real.
  3. Cyber Ninja-led audit reviews every ballot in the County. They examine every single ballot individually. Providing 100% assurance that the ballot is legal.
  4. Neither one ballot includes names and ID details, so the voting rights aren’t violated.
  5. The massive audit takes a short time.
  6. Transparency is on its highest level. Nine cameras are LIVE streaming the audit 24/7.
  7. The judge shouldn’t be concerned about the audit. Shredded ballots, ballots on the truck, and moved in the middle of nowhere without a legal duty are the tools used by this Republican and Democrat group.
  8. Maricopa, Arizona, and the U.S. population have to know the accurate result of the 2020 election!
 
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There are a handful of posters who prefer honest conversation. I get tired of the same old 'cult of personality' arguments, too.

I understand why civil conversation is important but it also requires intellectual honesty. This is something some are just unable to do. If I have been intellectually honest, then please call me out.

It is no secret I despise the democratic party, but it's because I used to be a democrat but they are using the same tactics that kept me on the liberal plantation. How they are able to re-use the same rhetoric for decades is purplexing to me.

And if we are being honest, with all we know about biden it is unlikely the reason he had to run was because he was missing a meeting that couldn't wait. He is the POTUS, answer questions for the American people. He has had minimal availability since he's been in office. We are using common sense on this one that he is having his strings pulled.
 
Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better about it.

You ginned up outrage at something that didn't happen and claimed it was hypocrisy.

Don't do that, I'll make fun of you if you do.
Do what you want, you hold no high ground here.

I made a statement that IF democrats had accomplished this they would consider it a keystone or signature accomplishment. Do you not believe that to be true?

The rest is just you being your abrasive persona you assume in this forum. Get over yourself.
 

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