hog88
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You seem to have a problem with Arizona's election audit. You don't believe that their state legislation who is charged by our constitution to preside over their elections, has the right to audit or investigate it how they see fit? You're right on many things, but contradict yourself here.
If you want honesty you'll need to try a different forum.This is the type of quip that sounds really great when you share them with colleagues but is utter horse manure.
You have yet to show audit and recount are the same event. You have yet to show an audit has law with which auditors need to comply.
I am looking for some honesty today. It may be too much to ask, tbh.
I mispoke regarding the GOPs argument. It was regarding an audit. I thought we had cleared that up. The constitutional rights of citizens must always be safeguarded. You guys are making this way too complicated.
The GOP is not arguing there is no law with which they need to comply. They are arguing they don't have a duty to comply with the law. And again, it is not an argument you make while complying with the law.
I'm not sure how the rights of citizens are being compromised? Are they really, or is that just the left's argument for opposing the audit? Do we not also have a Constitutional duty to safeguard our elections? Truthfully, the whole system has gone to pot, and partisan politics has left those in the middle confused as to who is being truthful because both sides have continuously lied to us. We've seen our government weaponized to fight political battles, with no consequence. And honestly, the most glaring examples have come from the left. Remember filegate from the Clintons or the IRS audits? I'm sure Republicans have done it too, but apparently hide it a little better. I don't trust either side, and think both capable of doing anything in the name of control and power.I mispoke regarding the GOPs argument. It was regarding an audit. I thought we had cleared that up. The constitutional rights of citizens must always be safeguarded. You guys are making this way too complicated.
The GOP is not arguing there is no law with which they need to comply. They are arguing they don't have a duty to comply with the law. And again, it is not an argument you make while complying with the law.
This is a hilarious statement. So much TDS. If you're a citizen of this country and you're ok with the possibility of having unfair elections, don't ever expect any unity. I don't care who the candidate is. Trump is nothing more then a name at this point. Don't get that twisted.
How can I seek victim status for a party and people I don't support? Are you claiming that if a Democrat had secured this treaty it wouldn't be considered a major accomplishment and been lauded?
Good Lord, if you can't see a difference between the way "mainstream" media and platforms treat the views and rhetoric from both sides differently then there really is no point in having this discussion. There is a bias and differential treatment.How can you? You tell me.
I'm not claiming anything other than events actually have to actually happen before one can reasonably balk, feign outrage and claim someone is being hypocritical. Otherwise, the outrage is manufactured and would undermine and dilute claims of actual hypocrisy. This is the crux of my initial point, you and others love to play to be a victim - when actual circumstances don't hold water, circumstances are manufactured to maintain the illusion of being oppressed. This is just a light version of the "deep state" conspiracy.
Good Lord, if you can't see a difference between the way "mainstream" media and platforms treat the views and rhetoric from both sides differently then there really is no point in having this discussion. There is a bias and differential treatment.
This has nothing to do with "deep state" conspiracies.
There are a handful of posters who prefer honest conversation. I get tired of the same old 'cult of personality' arguments, too.
Do what you want, you hold no high ground here.Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better about it.
You ginned up outrage at something that didn't happen and claimed it was hypocrisy.
Don't do that, I'll make fun of you if you do.
