Arizona Election Audit

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#2,976
Septic said:
Until we're presented with convincing evidence there was widespread fraud, I won't get my panties bunched up. The current voting system is so decentralized, it'd be impossible to have widespread fraud go undetected and kept quiet.

What we're witnessing here is sour grapes wherein the well was being poisoned with claims of fraud long BEFORE the election ever even started. The irony is that Trump talked about election fraud from the beginning and did nothing but try and "secure" the vote other than suppress and shorten voting windows.
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Great let’s let an obvious future problem ride till it’s a major cluster ****. What can we learn from history about that?
Weimar builds up forces on the polish boarder and it’s no big deal because they have not done anything wrong. They overran Poland and it’s not a big deal. It was just Poland. Forget that the warning signs were everywhere. We will just worry about it after it’s a problem.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Great let’s let an obvious future problem ride till it’s a major cluster ****. What can we learn from history about that?
Weimar builds up forces on the polish boarder and it’s no big deal because they have not done anything wrong. They overran Poland and it’s not a big deal. It was just Poland. Forget that the warning signs were everywhere. We will just worry about it after it’s a problem.
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One was an observable threat, the other is based on a poisoned well that peddles in vitriolic fear mongering and a lack of supporting evidence.

No one's saying that election security shouldn't be a priority or isn't important.
 
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#2,979
Septic said:
One was an observable threat, the other is based on a poisoned well that peddles in vitriolic fear mongering and a lack of supporting evidence.

No one's saying that election security shouldn't be a priority or isn't important.
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There’s an observable problem with our elections. Some poles have it at 80% in favor of security reforms. Allowing things to continue as they have will ultimately lead to outright fraud.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Great let’s let an obvious future problem ride till it’s a major cluster ****. What can we learn from history about that?
Weimar builds up forces on the polish boarder and it’s no big deal because they have not done anything wrong. They overran Poland and it’s not a big deal. It was just Poland. Forget that the warning signs were everywhere. We will just worry about it after it’s a problem.
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Both Britain and france declared on germany two days after germany invaded Poland.

Sudetenland or some of the other appeasements would be better examples.

Further, pulling lessons from WWII war declarations it should be noted that one shouldnt jump into a war they arent ready to fight. Even if you know something is wrong. So waiting for the audits to be sorted out also bears some wisdom. Unless you want to rely on your enemies always being as dumb/greedy as Hitler was.
 
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LouderVol said:
Both Britain and france declared on germany two days after germany invaded Poland.

Sudetenland or some of the other appeasements would be better examples.

Further, pulling lessons from WWII war declarations it should be noted that one shouldnt jump into a war they arent ready to fight. Even if you know something is wrong. So waiting for the audits to be sorted out also bears some wisdom. Unless you want to rely on your enemies always being as dumb/greedy as Hitler was.
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“Peace in our time “
 
#2,988
#2,988
Septic said:
Oh no, I absolutely do think the left is capable and would I just don't tink they had to in the 2020 general.



Also, how did you take that quote and infer that "I believe...that no way the left would?"
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What’s more likely, that they sat back and waited to see if they had to or that they went ahead and committed fraud just in case?
 
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#2,990
Septic said:
Until we're presented with convincing evidence there was widespread fraud, I won't get my panties bunched up. The current voting system is so decentralized, it'd be impossible to have widespread fraud go undetected and kept quiet.

What we're witnessing here is sour grapes wherein the well was being poisoned with claims of fraud long BEFORE the election ever even started. The irony is that Trump talked about election fraud from the beginning and did nothing but try and "secure" the vote other than suppress and shorten voting windows.
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But you wouldn’t have to be widespread for the Dems. Basically 5 cities swung this election.
 
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It must have felt like a dagger in the back to see and hear Bill Barr and The Human Turtle sh*t on Trumps claims of election fraud and realize that McConnell only waived off calling him out because he needed Trumps nonsense to rile up the hillbillys in Georgia for the seat Warnock won. Brutal.

These guys RINO's now too?
 
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