Arian Foster

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RICK0380

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To all of you so called "Football Experts" . You wanted Hardesty and Creer so bad but neither one has really done a lot. Foster needs the ball at least 20 times a game. Last night he had only 6 carries for 21 yds. He had a 9 yd run and a 8 yd run. Other times he carried it was on 3rd and 1 or second and short so big yardage isnt expected.So to everyone who doesnt like FOSTER.....Get off his back, he wouldnt have only been 600 and something yds away from record at beggining of the season if he wasnt a good back.GO VOLS AND GO FOSTER.... "Against All Odds"
 
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RICK0380 said:
To all of you so called "Football Experts" . You wanted Hardesty and Creer so bad but neither one has really done a lot. Foster needs the ball at least 20 times a game. Last night he had only 6 carries for 21 yds. He had a 9 yd run and a 8 yd run. Other times he carried it was on 3rd and 1 or second and short so big yardage isnt expected.So to everyone who doesnt like FOSTER.....Get off his back, he wouldnt have only been 600 and something yds away from record at beggining of the season if he wasnt a good back.GO VOLS AND GO FOSTER.... "Against All Odds"
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One of the few good things about this season is that when it's over, Foster is gone.
 
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I like Foster and I hate it for him but Hardesty and Creer are better.


And I dont want him to break the record, because IMO he is not one of the best in UT history.
But just my 2 cents worth.
 
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You are gloating over 9 and 8 yard runs? If our o-line was worth a fraction of a crap i don't think we would be having this conversation. Hardesty and Creer are both better backs than Foster, but because we can't get any blocking, you can't tell the difference.
 
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Get out of here. Him being close to the record is simply a matter of the talent decline the last few years. he's hands down the worst starting RB in the last 25 years
 
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kptvol said:
Creer and Hardesty will be no better if Adkins remains employed.
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Now this is the truest statement made on this entire board in a few months. The suppose to be dominate OLINE has really sucked all year.
 
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FO.CO. VOL FAN said:
You are gloating over 9 and 8 yard runs? If our o-line was worth a fraction of a crap i don't think we would be having this conversation. Hardesty and Creer are both better backs than Foster, but because we can't get any blocking, you can't tell the difference.
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Since Foster started getting fewer carries, we started getting fewer rushing yards. Every game in which Hardesty has been the primary back has been a complete disaster.
 
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Had Henry or other great backs in our history had the chance to essentially be 4 year starters like foster, he wouldn't even be close to the record.
 
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edram150 said:
Had Henry or other great backs in our history had the chance to essentially be 4 year starters like foster, he wouldn't even be close to the record.
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Almost a good point except the fact Foster didnt start his freshman year "Genius" He didnt even get good playing time until he came in against Alabama and ran for 90 yds as a freshman off the bench.
 
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I saw some good stuff from Foster yesterday but I did notice one thing from all three they run into the FREAKING pile all the time! its like the coaches put blinders on them and say run
 
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JoeyVols32 said:
I like Foster and I hate it for him but Hardesty and Creer are better.


And I dont want him to break the record, because IMO he is not one of the best in UT history.
But just my 2 cents worth.
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Breaking the record does not mean he is the best back in UT history (and he isn't). These records are more about durability and productivity -- he has been both. Him getting the record is fine in my opinion.

FO.CO. VOL FAN said:
You are gloating over 9 and 8 yard runs? If our o-line was worth a fraction of a crap i don't think we would be having this conversation. Hardesty and Creer are both better backs than Foster, but because we can't get any blocking, you can't tell the difference.
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If you can't tell the difference, then how do you know they are better backs? I tend to look at YPC and Arian is the best. Lennon has benefited from mop up time against weak opponents. In time, Hardesty and Creer may certainly be better -- but neither has proved it yet.

ReeceBobby said:
Get out of here. Him being close to the record is simply a matter of the talent decline the last few years. he's hands down the worst starting RB in the last 25 years
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Certainly not near the top -- but this is hyperbole.
 
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ReeceBobby said:
Get out of here. Him being close to the record is simply a matter of the talent decline the last few years. he's hands down the worst starting RB in the last 25 years
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Montario Hardesty and Jabari Davis have both started games in recent years. So, no.
 
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Hardesty and Creer have not done anything better than Foster. If they are so much better backs, why are their ypc average lower than Fosters'. Yesterday proved that. Next year will be a young inexperienced OL. Will that be your excuse why we can't run the ball then?
 
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kptvol said:
Since Foster started getting fewer carries, we started getting fewer rushing yards. Every game in which Hardesty has been the primary back has been a complete disaster.
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Yes, it has to an extent.

Here are the stats for the season Net Rushing Yards for Team AF Carries AF yds AF TD's

UCLA 177 yards 13 Carries 100yds 0 TD's
UAB 266 yards 12 Carries 100yds 0 TD's
FLA 96 yds 14 carries 37yds 0 TD's
AUB 124 yds 8 carries 30yds 0 TD's
NIU 69 yds 18 carries 75yds 0 TD's
UGA 1 yd 3 carries 3yds 0 TD's
MSU 139 yds 11 carries 41yds 0 TD's
Bama 36 yds 6 carries 21yds 0 TD's

Foster had the most carries for the team in the UCLA, UAB, FLA, and NIU games. In the UGA game the entire team only had 15 carries and the other two backs (hardesty and creer) combined for 8 carries. In that game hardesty had 20 yards with his 6 carries to fosters 3 yards on 3 carries. The biggest number that sticks out to me is 0 TD's. This tells me that he can't finish a drive or lacks the speed to get to the endzone once he is past the initial wave of tacklers. It also tells me that he isn't strong and physical enough where the coaches will put him in on short and goal situations. And we also all know how he has the tendency to fumble in big situations.
 
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orange4ever said:
Hardesty and Creer have not done anything better than Foster. If they are so much better backs, why are their ypc average lower than Fosters'. Yesterday proved that. Next year will be a young inexperienced OL. Will that be your excuse why we can't run the ball then?
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Creer's yards-per-carry are less than Foster's? I don't think so. I may be wrong, but I think you are incorrect, sir!
 
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RICK0380 said:
Almost a good point except the fact Foster didnt start his freshman year "Genius" He didnt even get good playing time until he came in against Alabama and ran for 90 yds as a freshman off the bench.
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"Foster didn't start his freshman year"

then you say

"he ran for 90 yards against Bama"



Well....he only ran for 53 yards against Alabama and then went on to start the final 5 games of his "freshman" season while getting about 120 carries and 700 or so yards.

Did you even watch UT football in 2005? You might actually have people listen to what you say if you weren't so hopeless with your facts. Or lack thereof.
 
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RICK0380 said:
To all of you so called "Football Experts" . You wanted Hardesty and Creer so bad but neither one has really done a lot. Foster needs the ball at least 20 times a game. Last night he had only 6 carries for 21 yds. He had a 9 yd run and a 8 yd run. Other times he carried it was on 3rd and 1 or second and short so big yardage isnt expected.So to everyone who doesnt like FOSTER.....Get off his back, he wouldnt have only been 600 and something yds away from record at beggining of the season if he wasnt a good back.GO VOLS AND GO FOSTER.... "Against All Odds"
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The first couple of sweeps to Foster at the beginning of the game seemed to work. I don't know why we abandoned it if it was working. That being said, Hardesty and Creer are my preferred backs to Arian much to KPT's lament. Fumble boy and Briscoe can get on the sidelines & laugh and make their dinosaur noises all night long as far as I'm concerned. So much for senior leadership there.....genius.
 
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Our O-line would make Barry Sanders look like a hack at this point.
Bottom line our offensive problems start with the O-line then QB play.

And for what its worth Foster is not the best back on the team IMO.
 
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Foster is breaking the record because he has more carries then anyone else due to teams playing more games in a season. That and he's been relatively injury free. No one is making an arguement that he is one of the best ever at UT.
 
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