Are you buying it yet?

#77
#77
From what I've seen so far, the Vols are far too soft to go on the road and beat a much more talented Auburn team.
I hope it doesn't come true, but I've hoped the Vols would show up many times and been let down by this team.
Go Vols beat Auburn if you can
 
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photovol said:
From what I've seen so far, the Vols are far too soft to go on the road and beat a much more talented Auburn team.
I hope it doesn't come true, but I've hoped the Vols would show up many times and been let down by this team.
Go Vols beat Auburn if you can
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if Auburn and TN were stocks, Auburn would be a hard sell and TN would be a steady buy.

i don't have any issue wiht anyone that picks auburn....cause i did.....but there's no denying which direction the two teams are going. now, is TN gonna get going fast enough from where we were against UGA to win a game like this 2 weeks later? thats the part i don't know.

but i also look at Auburn and they're a sinking ship, and im not sure they can plug all the holes fast enough. can they keep it afloat long enough to get thru Saturday and then make some better long term fixes? i don't know that part either.

on paper, Auburn should win this game.

but this game has a lot going on that's "off the page".
 
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jakez4ut said:
if Auburn and TN were stocks, Auburn would be a hard sell and TN would be a steady buy.

i don't have any issue wiht anyone that picks auburn....cause i did.....but there's no denying which direction the two teams are going. now, is TN gonna get going fast enough from where we were against UGA to win a game like this 2 weeks later? thats the part i don't know.

but i also look at Auburn and they're a sinking ship, and im not sure they can plug all the holes fast enough. can they keep it afloat long enough to get thru Saturday and then make some better long term fixes? i don't know that part either.

on paper, Auburn should win this game.

but this game has a lot going on that's "off the page".
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Weve been ran over by every team that matters. Our lines got pushed around by much weaker teams. We have no individual standout players. While our defense somehow appears okay, we are awful at fundamentals like tackling, our offensive game plan seems to be we suck and we know it so.we will just punt.

The consesus of "real fans" seems to be that our coaching staff does not possess the ability to get the most out of a player unless he is a 5 star all american and that no player on our team would get an offer from any other d1 school.

Whats the clear indication that we are headed in the right directions? Is a quarter of "fight" enough to be a clear indication?
 
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volfannbama said:
Weve been ran over by every team that matters. Our lines got pushed around by much weaker teams. We have no individual standout players. While our defense somehow appears okay, we are awful at fundamentals like tackling, our offensive game plan seems to be we suck and we know it so.we will just punt.

The consesus of "real fans" seems to be that our coaching staff does not possess the ability to get the most out of a player unless he is a 5 star all american and that no player on our team would get an offer from any other d1 school.

Whats the clear indication that we are headed in the right directions? Is a quarter of "fight" enough to be a clear indication?
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there's a lot here vfbama.....and it's a fair question.

most of the post was about the auburn game specifically, and in regard to that, there's not much denying the direction Auburn is headed in. and for this game, most of the prognostication on the possibility of an upset, generally speaking, does have a lot more to do with what Auburn is not doing well vs. what TN is.

but i'm sure the crux has to do with the metaphor on buying the stock....
and the simple answer is nothing tangible. but like buying stocks, you try to find indicators that says "maybe i should buy" this.

i've seen indicators that say that. and if you're gonna make money doing that, you have to buy early when the stock is low.
of course there's not guarantee you make money either. it's a bit of a gamble.

no different here with TN football. it's so early on, i can't tell you it's "going" to be great. but there are things i like. recruiting, the effort/fight you mentioned, formations on offense, fundamental philosophy on how to do things....foundational stuff.

but no results. and eventually those will matter a lot more than the warm/fuzzy stuff....
 
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jakez4ut said:
if Auburn and TN were stocks, Auburn would be a hard sell and TN would be a steady buy.

"but there's no denying which direction the two teams are going."
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Honestly how do you have such a solidified opinion om which way Tennessee is heading? We've played 3 real games and none of them went well. Should be impossible to judge the direction right now whether it be north or south.
 
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Rocky Top Raby said:
Honestly how do you have such a solidified opinion om which way Tennessee is heading? We've played 3 real games and none of them went well. Should be impossible to judge the direction right now whether it be north or south.
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answered above.
 
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jakez4ut said:
if Auburn and TN were stocks, Auburn would be a hard sell and TN would be a steady buy.

i don't have any issue wiht anyone that picks auburn....cause i did.....but there's no denying which direction the two teams are going. now, is TN gonna get going fast enough from where we were against UGA to win a game like this 2 weeks later? thats the part i don't know.

but i also look at Auburn and they're a sinking ship, and im not sure they can plug all the holes fast enough. can they keep it afloat long enough to get thru Saturday and then make some better long term fixes? i don't know that part either.

on paper, Auburn should win this game.

but this game has a lot going on that's "off the page".
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Auburn's a sinking ship ea, what does that make UT, a sunken clam?
 
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So AU has lost 1 less game than us and the sky is falling for them? Their DL is going to wear our OL out. I don't know about AU at-15+ . Although I would be shocked to see us keep this within 10. I knew this year was going to be bad. I just really had high hopes that CJP would get the troops behind him better. On paper our talent is pretty comparable to almost every other SEC squad not named UGA or AL. On the field we look like a HS team. A bad HS team at that.
 
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jakez4ut said:
if Auburn and TN were stocks, Auburn would be a hard sell and TN would be a steady buy.

i don't have any issue wiht anyone that picks auburn....cause i did.....but there's no denying which direction the two teams are going. now, is TN gonna get going fast enough from where we were against UGA to win a game like this 2 weeks later? thats the part i don't know.

but i also look at Auburn and they're a sinking ship, and im not sure they can plug all the holes fast enough. can they keep it afloat long enough to get thru Saturday and then make some better long term fixes? i don't know that part either.

on paper, Auburn should win this game.

but this game has a lot going on that's "off the page".
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That’s a good way to put it. I’d have us at a strong HOLD. Stocks can always go to $0 too, but we have a good chance of trending up in a few years.

Like @photovol said, I think we’re too soft to upset anyone, let alone on the road.
 
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#89
You beat Auburn by being more physical and keeping their defense guessing.

JG is an accurate passer when he is given time to make his throws. He’s not the type of QB to scramble and make the opposing defenses frustrated. He’ll have to keep his posture and hope his O-Line gives him enough time to make plays.

We’ll have to take care of the ball and limit silly mistakes.

But I don’t think Auburn is as great as some people are making them out to be.
 
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#90
I find it hard to believe that if Auburn slips a little we all have to accept that they will continue to get worse. Past performance and all that.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You beat Auburn by being more physical and keeping their defense guessing.

JG is an accurate passer when he is given time to make his throws. He’s not the type of QB to scramble and make the opposing defenses frustrated. He’ll have to keep his posture and hope his O-Line gives him enough time to make plays.

We’ll have to take care of the ball and limit silly mistakes.

But I don’t think Auburn is as great as some people are making them out to be.
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AU's front 7 are better than avg. Our OL is terrible. I just don't see us making this much of a game. I would love to be wrong. I have yet to see anything to support us being able to win a single SEC game this year.
 
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AndyMizunogolfer said:
AU's front 7 are better than avg. Our OL is terrible. I just don't see us making this much of a game. I would love to be wrong. I have yet to see anything to support us being able to win a single SEC game this year.
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in fairness, that's why this game is being discussed as an UPSET possiblity.
 
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508mikey said:
Im guessing it was a pissed off big time booster(s) that pushed it -- cant take losing to Texas
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Can't wait until we start getting some coaches fired! In fact, outside of the pure joy of winning this game against Auburn, it would be great watch the drama we'd create on the plains with a win. If you think Plainsmen are hot now, after a loss to a ranked team, it would be a whole other reality check for them to lose to a team who hasn't won SEC game since 2016.
 
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secking said:
For the 3rd straight week, AU doesn’t garner 100 yards on the ground and giving up an astounding 353 yards rushing to Miss St, a team whose offense has been nonexistent. Last three games and ypc is still way down and just over 3 ypc for the year against P5 teams.

Follow the layout that LSU has set and follow MSU’s layout of offense, TN wins Saturday and the wheels fall off (two already have) of Auburn. Can’t help their recruiting either...
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Trust me, when we play them, their defense will be better than most NFL teams. We catch bad teams on the week that they make a major jump in improvement
 
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#97
99gator said:
No, not buying it.

Another poster earlier started a thread that I believe is spot on. MSU is a physical team with a running QB. Tennessee is not built that way.

The 2 teams I think Tennessee matches up with best remaining on the schedule are Vandy and South Carolina. Missouri scores too much. Kentucky is too physical.
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We won't beat USC, UT has never beaten a Muschamp coached team
We can be at Vandy but if Vandy gets in a rhythm, I look for our team to quit
 
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volfannbama said:
Auburn is agressive team that fights for 4 quarters. We dont. Auburn has more talent. Look for a coming out party for them. It might be false hope for the rest of their season, but one quarter of fight that we might show wont be enough.
I believe we are on equal footing with miss st, talent wise, but nowhere near as aggressive and hard hitting. We dont gameplan to be that way and capitalize on our strentghes. To be honest I dont know if anyone knows what we do.
So while I think we have a fighting chance against Auburn, we havent shown the ability to sustain a fight with anyone. So sadly it will be another week of much the same, another beatdowm with folks clamoring to a quarter or so of fight with no tangible result.
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Do you believe that Fitzgerald and Gurantano are equal . wow... Fitzgerald is actually a dual threat. He will get drafted first 3 rounds. He was the big difference maker in the Auburn game. I hope JG duplicates Fitzgeralds numbers but will not hold my breath. I haven't seen JG evade a rusher or a tackle all year. Guess we were spoiled with Dobbs but JG's first couple step are on par with Clausen, Worley and Simms he has no fast twitch that the good one's have instinctively.
 
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jakez4ut said:
in fairness, that's why this game is being discussed as an UPSET possiblity.
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Pretty sure this thread was started as a AU is worse than we are thread. Do I hope for an upset? Yeah. Do I expect us to upset? Nope. Someone stated earlier UT is soft. That is pretty much exactly what we are. DL 0 push, OL 0 push, TE 0 blocking, DB's 0 coverage skills, I am not really sure what we are good at except punting.
 
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AndyMizunogolfer said:
Pretty sure this thread was started as a AU is worse than we are thread. Do I hope for an upset? Yeah. Do I expect us to upset? Nope. Someone stated earlier UT is soft. That is pretty much exactly what we are. DL 0 push, OL 0 push, TE 0 blocking, DB's 0 coverage skills, I am not really sure what we are good at except punting.
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the OP has been pumping the upset bid all week, and the thread title is just a continuation of that theme.


and no, it wasn't intended to say auburn is worse than we are. there's no one i've seen on this board this week that's talked about this game from the standpoint of TN just lining up and beating Auburn.

it's beein totally in the vein of "if TN doesn't make mistakes AND Auburn continues it's current trajectory of piss poor play".

basically, it should just be common sense and just assumed that any discussion regarding a TN victory is being discussed as an upset bid.
 
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