Are Fainting Goats the Real Problem?

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sechamp2012 said:
It's funny how Ole Miss evolved from racist Rebels to Fainting Goats
Ole Miss Rebels
Ole Miss Black Bears
Ole Miss Land Sharks
Ole Miss Fainting Goats
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How is being a rebel equal being "racist"?

Someone didn't pay attention and has let politicians influence their definition seems like

Not a political post, just pointing out one doesn't equal the other
 
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NBA flop too. LeBron James did one a while back that had me laughing at the obvious fakery. It was so obvious that a 3yrs' old tantrum in an if you don't give me what I want, I'll scream and if that doesn't work, I'll die moment, did a better job.
 
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You can't limit an offense to play a certain way or how fast or when they want to run a play. Limiting offenses would be bad for college football and football in general. It's not really an advantage as teams have 40 seconds to run a play and its the defenses job to be ready when they run the play. The only way to limit the amount of fake injuries on defense is to make consequences happen to them. If they go down to an "injury or cramp" they need to take more than one play off, maybe that whole series or 5 plays whichever is shorter to get properly evaluated or hydrated. They could make defenses take a timeout if there are a certain number of injured players during so many plays. They only other way is that the refs allow 5-10 seconds for subs but to me that is still limiting the offense to run the pace they want to run severely disrupting their momentum.
 
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I gotta say - Ole Miss is blatantly obvious for doing this. When the other team's offense gets on a roll - or a couple of good plays back-to-back, there is almost ALWAYS an Ole Miss player on the ground - for usually a significant period of time. Ole Miss has a fast-paced offense, as welI. I have also noticed that when Ole Miss is on a drive and one of their Offensive players goes down -- they make every effort to get up and hop off of the field as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. Total double-standard! -- You can't (or shouldn't) have it both ways........
 
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onevol74 said:
The rules apply to both offense and defense on both teams. Has nothing to do wussified players acting as fainting goats.

The only way to eliminate injuries in football is to have contactless play.
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This seems to be a closer reality every year. Before long you won't be able to touch a QB. Hit a RB with more than one tackler. Not be allowed to touch a receiver more than 5 yds down field. And so on..
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
NBA flop too. LeBron James did one a while back that had me laughing at the obvious fakery. It was so obvious that a 3yrs' old tantrum in an if you don't give me what I want, I'll scream and if that doesn't work, I'll die moment, did a better job.
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I'm an old guy, but I can remember when faking a charge was a technical foul.
 
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This want be taken kindly here but.... On one hand it is a problem. On the other I can see why they do it. Hurry up offenses are gimmicky. It's basically saying I can't beat you straight up so I need to catch you off balance. So until they can figure out something that doesn't give all the advantage to the offense it's going to keep happening
 
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Easy fix:

(1) No substitutions allowed on offense or defense EXCEPT for the injured player.

(2) "Injured" player must stay on sideline until the next 1st down.

Yes, the pace can still be slowed down by a Kiffin-like coach, but wholesale substitutions are eliminated.
 
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What you’re arguing for would be similar to taking the fast break out of basketball
 
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VolArmy74 said:
The offense is rightly in charge of the play clock when they have the ball. Some offenses may want to run the clock to 1 and snap it every play, some may want to snap is as soon as possible. The defense already gets to operate way more freely than the offense. They don't have to have any number set on the lines. They don't have any rules about who can drop back in coverage or rush the passer. They don't have to get set. They can shift around. So no, I don't think the offense should have to change their pace to try and accommodate the defense. Just make two rules regarding injury substitutions. Only the injured player can be subbed for. The injured player can't return on that possession unless you use a time out.
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I think this would take care of the problem.
 
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Whatever the case, it will keep happening until there is a rule against it. Downside of this offense is what it does to your defense. For teams like Vols that use tempo to offset talent deficiency, you have the additional problem of being forced to play physical when you have a short field, which can create all sorts of issues if you’re streaking up and down the field between the 25s but not getting touchdowns and in overtime situations. Unless you have Bama talent and depth on defense, at some point tempo offense is gonna have to be converted to an offense that can control the clock if you want to win championship. You need different kind of dudes for the latter, which means at some point you gotta figure how to turn over your roster without losing so much on the field that it sours recruiting. I see the trap of this offense as being like getting stuck in middle management at a big organization. You can probably expect a consistent, perhaps even comfortable success level better than where you started but there is a ceiling and you will probably have to take a step or two backwards before moving forwards if you give it up to try something with more upside.
 
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Yes. It is fair. No. It isn't hurting the game. CFB have evolved and done so in ebbs and flows. There was a time not so long ago that Saban's 3-4 D was "unfair". OC's adjusted. DC's will adjust to tempo O's.

There will come a time when they will prepare their players on the field to make their own adjustments to keep up with faster but simpler O's.
 
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igotworms said:
How is being a rebel equal being "racist"?

Someone didn't pay attention and has let politicians influence their definition seems like

Not a political post, just pointing out one doesn't equal the other
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I’m not stating this but their state leaders changed their nickname to Black Bears a few years ago when cancel culture first started.
 
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If the offense substitutes, then the defense is given the chance to do so as well. If not, then the defense subs at its' own risk. Maybe in the future, some coach will figure out how to rush in defensive subs against a hurry-up offense. Until then, I guess we're stuck with floppers, I hope we can flip that.
 
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