Anyone heard about this with Nico and parents

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Pay him. Pay some more guys to block for him too. Cut the women’s sports salaries and let’s spend our money where it matters.
 
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lukeneyland said:
Pay him. Pay some more guys to block for him too. Cut the women’s sports salaries and let’s spend our money where it matters.
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Go on the Lady VOLS thread and tell them that. They think, and they may be right, 90% of the NIL dollars go to the men.
 
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Raebo said:
Go on the Lady VOLS thread and tell them that. They think, and they may be right, 90% of the NIL dollars go to the men.
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I ought to. I don’t care if it’s one percent. It’s too much. Football above all else. It’s inexcusable that we’re not doing our utmost to fund a championship
 
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lukeneyland said:
I ought to. I don’t care if it’s one percent. It’s too much. Football above all else. It’s inexcusable that we’re not doing our utmost to fund a championship
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Congrats on the dumbest comment in the thread! The challenge was daunting, but you nailed it! Football over everything? Its far better for a university financially to be really good at everything because it increases your exposure and revenue streams. You would never understand basic economics and logic though
 
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volsack said:
Congrats on the dumbest comment in the thread! The challenge was daunting, but you nailed it! Football over everything? Its far better for a university financially to be really good at everything because it increases your exposure and revenue streams. You would never understand basic economics and logic though
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Heard it here first: women's sports are pointless, and are holding back the football team from a championship.
 
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Raebo said:
Go on the Lady VOLS thread and tell them that. They think, and they may be right, 90% of the NIL dollars go to the men.
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They might have been right in the past but now have a seperate NIL for the women if they're interested
 
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utvolpj said:
They might have been right in the past but now have a seperate NIL for the women if they're interested
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I think - or thought at least - I read that the "separate NIL" thing evaporated with the hiring of the new coach. The two big NIL outfits were not supporting them before, as I understood it, but the arrangement changed with the transition. Paraphrasing from memory, I remember seeing some kind of statementfrom Danny White that the new staff would have all the support needed to be competitive in NIL.

And in what was not at all a coincidence, I'm sure, they've also assembled a top 3 recruiting class for next year. Funny how that works.
 
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Voltopia said:
I think - or thought at least - I read that the "separate NIL" thing evaporated with the hiring of the new coach. The two big NIL outfits were not supporting them before, as I understood it, but the arrangement changed with the transition. Paraphrasing from memory, I remember seeing some kind of statementfrom Danny White that the new staff would have all the support needed to be competitive in NIL.

And in what was not at all a coincidence, I'm sure, they've also assembled a top 3 recruiting class for next year. Funny how that works.
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Our women's basketball program should be afforded the funds to get us back among the nation's elite. For ****s sakes, our basketball court is named after arguably the GOAT of women coaches
 
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loservol said:
The problem is, him, his family and handlers are all acting like he is an established commodity instead of a struggling rookie QB, who might never catch on. I know I'm in for some message board flak and push back, but if any of this is true they should let him pursue other offers. Heupel has two four star backup QB's and a transfer portal he can turn to find the starter for next season.
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After next year we will know more about Nico.
 
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It's a lot to take in but I don't blame parents, kids, or even their agents. It's their right to earn money and if they can get more then more power to them. That's literally capitalism. I'm loyal to myself and the work I know how to do. If someone pays me more and has a good situation for helping secure my family's future then that's where I'm going.

With that said, the NCAA had years to figure this system out but did nothing. Money has been on college sports for literal decades but they kept claiming some high moral standing while making millions. Then the court case came and the judge gave them a literal timeline to figure it out. Still the NCAA did nothing. It's going to take the SEC and B1G being the adults in the room and figure out a system that works. The NCAA has been useless for years and now that they are in their final days there's a power vacuum. The pendulum swung heavily in favor of the athletes.
 
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Jaswatzell said:
It's a lot to take in but I don't blame parents, kids, or even their agents. It's their right to earn money and if they can get more then more power to them. That's literally capitalism. I'm loyal to myself and the work I know how to do. If someone pays me more and has a good situation for helping secure my family's future then that's where I'm going.

With that said, the NCAA had years to figure this system out but did nothing. Money has been on college sports for literal decades but they kept claiming some high moral standing while making millions. Then the court case came and the judge gave them a literal timeline to figure it out. Still the NCAA did nothing. It's going to take the SEC and B1G being the adults in the room and figure out a system that works. The NCAA has been useless for years and now that they are in their final days there's a power vacuum. The pendulum swung heavily in favor of the athletes.
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Just like it did with worker unions after they were created.
 
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Voltopia said:
Of course there was loyalty. If there’s no loyalty, then why did Peyton Manning come back for his senior season? And play most of that 1997 Orange Bowl with a inflamed sac in his knee that needed draining both before and after the game? What other reasons would there have been to endure that?

Loyalty was real for a long time. But modern pro sports did away with loyalty ages ago, and now college has followed suit. People just don’t value it much anymore - and that applies to almost everyone.
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There are still and will continue to be instances of loyalty in college football similar to what you described. Forcing an American citizen to not be allowed to leave somewhere, not allowing them to use their name in the free market to make money, and providing no physical compensation is owed what level of loyalty? If I forced you to stay at my house and don't allow you to leave without great consequence is that loyalty that you stay for or is it fear of the unknown that keeps you around? Players have always left ball clubs, always.

I finish with this.. what has a University done, before NIL, that warranted a consistent basis, blind unwavering loyalty? Why would a player born and raised in CA owe the University of Tennessee any blind loyalty that you have described?
 
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SockeyeVol said:
The obvious solution here is to ask hardworking Tennessee families to donate more money to the football team.
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Correct. But it seems like too many hard working families care more about Starbucks and other things. I mean I guess $25 a month is just way too much money to spend to help the football program out.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Correct. But it seems like too many hard working families care more about Starbucks and other things. I mean I guess $25 a month is just way too much money to spend to help the football program out.
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How dare the hard working American families treat themseleves to an espresso every now again on a very cold day with what few dollars they have left over after shelling out thousands of dollars for the GameDay experience and talent fees.

Don't the hard working American families know that only the players and coaches should get to experience these luxuries? Those fans have some nerve!
 
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I think college football has always been just entertainment. Just another TV show. You can watch at home or plan and pay for a trip and be part of the live, studio audience.

There was a time when you could pay very little and watch all 3 or 4 TV channels and all the TV channels were free. Then, along came cable TV and satellite TV. There were a lot more channels and better TV shows, but you had to pay (a lot!) for access to those better channels and shows. Then, along came premium channels. If you want to watch HBO, ShowTime, etc, you have to pay even MORE to watch the best channels and shows.

Same with today's college football teams and NIL. As a fan, if you don't want to pay more so you can watch a better team, then so be it. Your team will not be one of the better teams. If you don't want pay even more to watch your team be a premium team, then so be it. Your team will not be elite. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't complain when other team's fans have better teams.
 
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loservol said:
The problem is, him, his family and handlers are all acting like he is an established commodity instead of a struggling rookie QB, who might never catch on. I know I'm in for some message board flak and push back, but if any of this is true they should let him pursue other offers. Heupel has two four star backup QB's and a transfer portal he can turn to find the starter for next season.
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Yes, let him walk! My worry is all of this just destroys team chemistry with only a few making outrageous amounts of money and some teammates getting nothing. I guess it's always been done though, just now it's all out in the open.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
I heard it from Dave Hooker(Hardly a guy that likes to crap on UT sports) who is quite confident of his sources. 🤔
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I’m not sure if this is supposed to be blue font or if you’re just clueless. Hooker routinely drags the program through the mud to generate clicks. His buddy Calhoun said Tenn was screwed when all of the court battle was going on. Errant, ill informed takes are what he does generally.

To be fair I wouldn’t know if this was true or not but I think if Nico or his family wanted his elsewhere he would be right how. Now I do know Heupel and Nico had a meeting after the season to discuss the future bc of all the personnel issues this year at WR and Oline. I know they’re less concerned with nil for one year than Nico having a good year before going pro. In other words I don’t think much of this lines up.
 
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lukeneyland said:
I ought to. I don’t care if it’s one percent. It’s too much. Football above all else. It’s inexcusable that we’re not doing our utmost to fund a championship
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Men’s basketball team hopes you don’t watch, especially after falling to Vanderbilt by 1. Baseball team would like to remind you of a championship and the softball team went back to back SEC titles. You ought to be reminded sometimes of the titles on The Hill not named football.
 
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Heupel is recruiting some top level quarterbacks. Whether they will or will not become top tier college or NFL talents will be interesting to watch. Nico may develop during his second season as a starter if he truly works, studies film and gains strength. Maybe some of his family will shift over to Arkansas to watch little brother and pester Pittman instead of Josh.
 
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utvolpj said:
Is Will West usually one breaking this kind of info? Not sure i remember him being an insider

True or not, he's not helping UT football with this mess. So glad our local media is on our side
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Yeah. I don’t think this is accurate. The discussions were not about money, but about what changes will be made to improve the offense.
 
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volsack said:
Congrats on the dumbest comment in the thread! The challenge was daunting, but you nailed it! Football over everything? It’s far better for a university financially to be really good at everything because it increases your exposure and revenue streams. You would never understand basic economics and logic though
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Tell Ohio State that
 
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