Anyone else feel this way about Nico?

#76
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Dadof2Vols said:
Nico who?

Culture? Any 20 year old that lets his dad or mom destroy his future well they deserve what comes to him. At some point he has to be his own man. At 20 if he chooses not to be then so be it. We aren’t talking about a 17 year old here, he is an adult who can go to war and pay taxes.
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Disagree, if you weren't raised in a certain culture then you as an outsider looking in won't under stand why a person does something and it will look odd to you but to them it would seem the right thing to do.
At 20 yes you're a legal but you're still looking to your parents to help guide you in life because of their life experiences and being your parents that are supposed to be looking out for you.
 
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RockY ToP 85 said:
You can't be serious. Not only is he not a good QB, but he left Tennessee in the worst way possible and brought unnecessary drama here. I think we're a better team now without him. Even if he was a good QB, no way you let that clown and his family anywhere near Knoxville again.
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I dont want him back fyi----just a thought experiment
 
#78
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TheVolsFrog said:
Disagree, if you weren't raised in a certain culture then you as an outsider looking in won't under stand why a person does something and it will look odd to you but to them it would seem the right thing to do.
At 20 yes you're a legal but you're still looking to your parents to help guide you in life because of their life experiences and being your parents that are supposed to be looking out for you.
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exactly thank you
 
#80
#80
CINCYVOL said:
Nico really needed the money. Can you imagine how much it costs to support a family of 3,000.? Big Nic and Nico were visiting a school on a bye week last year. Saturday was pure gold, all the way around. There may at have been at least 30,000 in that stadium and Nico hasn’t improved at all.
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LOLLLL!!!!!!!
 
#82
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dduncan4163 said:
You ain't soft. I feel the same way. Big Nick is one of those overbearing personalities and he's raised two timid, skittish sons. That's what's going to cost them an NFL gig one day. I've seen enough from Nico to know he's not a leader.

Nick is a Child Beauty Pageant mother. He's living his dreams through his sons and using them as a personal piggy bank. There's no happy end to this story but at this point I'm just glad we're no longer a part of it. I believe Joey is destined for great things this season and he may very well get us back to the playoffs.

GBO
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this is it! this is what I was lookin for - rational thoughts. We hold them accountable but understand why they went wrong. Spot on!
 
#84
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VolJarhead said:
It's hard to feel bad for someone that financially can retire in their 20s. He may not maximize his income, but he is set for life if he handed his money over to a financial planner. He is only making 1 million instead of 2 for this year. I'm sure his net worth is better than most posters. I will save my pity for the child that has cancer. I know I jumped a lot with that analogy, but I don't feel bad for the athletes and I honestly thought they had it good when they just received a free education, meals, nutritionist, opportunity to demonstrate talents, etc. etc. etc.
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very fair points
 
#85
#85
OrangeTsar said:
I totally agree with the basic premise of your argument but need to make one slight comment. The $ 4 million that i estimate Nico made at UT (pre federal income tax) isn’t even close to being set for life. A million dollars isn’t what it used to be, especially in Southern California. It will not even get him a decent house. Properly invested; it will go a long way toward retirement. But he‘s going to have to work until then IMHO
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He can place that in a guaranteed investment locked in over 6%. A normal person can draw over 100,000 a year from that and live just fine. I'm looking at it if he only received 2 million. If you believe that he needs to keep up with other athletes spending, then sure. Properly invested, that can go much farther. With 2 million invested, living a conservative lifestyle, he is set. My version of set doesn't imply traveling the world and buying a new lambo every 6 months. To me it means, he never has to worry about a roof over his head, food to eat, or a doctor to visit. That stress removed from anyone's life makes things much easier, but that's my definition of set. I guess it depends on what your upbringing and lifestyle is accustomed to.
 
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Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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#89
#89
Volanta said:
I wonder if his folks know they screwed him or if they are defiantly holding onto the beleif that they are right. I also wonder if they deeply apologized would CJH take him back next year if he were to reach out.
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It's overwhelmingly likely Heupel is glad to be rid of the whole family; why on earth would he ever contemplate inviting the cancer back in? He's building a program to contend at highest level, not running a charity org. Taking Nico back would be declaring "I"m not the right guy for this".

Let other programs do crazy.
And a pox on the house of the person who makes another Nico thread.
 
#90
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TheVolsFrog said:
Disagree, if you weren't raised in a certain culture then you as an outsider looking in won't under stand why a person does something and it will look odd to you but to them it would seem the right thing to do.
At 20 yes you're a legal but you're still looking to your parents to help guide you in life because of their life experiences and being your parents that are supposed to be looking out for you.
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They know this.
 
#94
#94
TheVolsFrog said:
Disagree, if you weren't raised in a certain culture then you as an outsider looking in won't under stand why a person does something and it will look odd to you but to them it would seem the right thing to do.
At 20 yes you're a legal but you're still looking to your parents to help guide you in life because of their life experiences and being your parents that are supposed to be looking out for you.
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Just so I understand the culture. At what point is he responsible for earning and spending his own money? If not 20, 25?, 30?, once he is married? Does he get to say who he marries? Or not until his dad has passed away?
 
#95
#95
Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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Do you have a counseling/parenting session with him or something?
 
#96
#96
Dadof2Vols said:
Just so I understand the culture. At what point is he responsible for earning and spending his own money? If not 20, 25?, 30?, once he is married? Does he get to say who he marries? Or not until his dad has passed away?
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He can do whatever he wants. Just depends if he wishes to be in the family or expelled from it.
 
#97
#97
VolJarhead said:
He can place that in a guaranteed investment locked in over 6%. A normal person can draw over 100,000 a year from that and live just fine. I'm looking at it if he only received 2 million. If you believe that he needs to keep up with other athletes spending, then sure. Properly invested, that can go much farther. With 2 million invested, living a conservative lifestyle, he is set. My version of set doesn't imply traveling the world and buying a new lambo every 6 months. To me it means, he never has to worry about a roof over his head, food to eat, or a doctor to visit. That stress removed from anyone's life makes things much easier, but that's my definition of set. I guess it depends on what your upbringing and lifestyle is accustomed to.
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Nico is 21 years old. If he lives an average lifespan, he's got 60 years left. After taxes and fees (I'm assuming the "guaranteed investment locked in at over 6%" you are referring to is an annuity), he wouldn't be taking home $100k/year. Then you've got to factor in inflation over the next 60 years. He's from Southern California; if he wanted to live there, even a modest lifestyle gets expensive. Unless he wants to hang around his house and not really do anything for the next 60 years, he'd need to keep working. Whether that's football or something else.

If your definition of "set for life" means he never has to worry about living on the street, starving, or being able to see a doctor from the money he made at Tennessee, then yeah, I guess he is. I don't think most people would consider that "set for life" though. And of course, we're just talking about paying his own individual expenses here. What if he wants to get married, have kids, etc.?
 
#98
#98
LWSVOL said:
let me tell you about these young guys and their NIL incomes. The majority of them have "agents" taking as much as 20% of their NIL deals and I wouldn't be surprised at it being higher in some cases. There are no laws or regulations to control what the "agents" could get. Many are family members of the players but many are friends of family... Its bizarre what is going on. A lot of players are just getting ripped off...

Impeccable source familier with our players.
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There's gonna be some tax problems down the road too that the players are not preparing for. If these NIL's are regular interval payments accross the season or calendar year, they travel to different states just like the pros. They gonna be tangibly earning this income in mutliple states.
 
#99
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GVF said:
There's gonna be some tax problems down the road too that the players are not preparing for. If these NIL's are regular interval payments accross the season or calendar year, they travel to different states just like the pros. They gonna be tangibly earning this income in mutliple states.
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Technically they aren't being paid for playing football; they're being paid for their name, image, and likeness. The income is being earned in the state where the collective exists.
 
#100
#100
Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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Let's forget about Nico. It's pathetic there are lot of Vol fans still upset over this. Him leaving was a blessing. end of story.
 
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