Anyone else feel this way about Nico?

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Volanta said:
I wonder if his folks know they screwed him or if they are defiantly holding onto the beleif that they are right. I also wonder if they deeply apologized would CJH take him back next year if he were to reach out.
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NO! I hold ZERO animosity toward Nico as I think he's being poorly advised and led around by the nose by his dad. He's just not a good fit for what Heupel wants to do and it appears Aguilar is vastly more cerebral and suited in seeing the field and the plays unfold in front of him.
 
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Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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You ain't soft. I feel the same way. Big Nick is one of those overbearing personalities and he's raised two timid, skittish sons. That's what's going to cost them an NFL gig one day. I've seen enough from Nico to know he's not a leader.

Nick is a Child Beauty Pageant mother. He's living his dreams through his sons and using them as a personal piggy bank. There's no happy end to this story but at this point I'm just glad we're no longer a part of it. I believe Joey is destined for great things this season and he may very well get us back to the playoffs.

GBO
 
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Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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It's hard to feel bad for someone that financially can retire in their 20s. He may not maximize his income, but he is set for life if he handed his money over to a financial planner. He is only making 1 million instead of 2 for this year. I'm sure his net worth is better than most posters. I will save my pity for the child that has cancer. I know I jumped a lot with that analogy, but I don't feel bad for the athletes and I honestly thought they had it good when they just received a free education, meals, nutritionist, opportunity to demonstrate talents, etc. etc. etc.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Sad to say, but at this moment, he and Arch are racing one another toward the bottom of the mountain they both started out standing atop.

Either could recover, of course. I'd bet a lot more on Arch doing so than Nico.
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I feel like people are reading too much into Arch overthrowing a few passes in a game where he was playing the defending national champ and effective #1 team in the nation on the road. He was under constant pressure and was going against a DC that won 3 Super Bowls. I don't know if he's legit or not, but the degree of difficulty was pumped up to 11! He could still end up having a good season.

Whereas, Nico ... it's possible he doesn't get to 5 wins this year.
 
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VolJarhead said:
It's hard to feel bad for someone that financially can retire in their 20s. He may not maximize his income, but he is set for life if he handed his money over to a financial planner. He is only making 1 million instead of 2 for this year. I'm sure his net worth is better than most posters. I will save my pity for the child that has cancer. I know I jumped a lot with that analogy, but I don't feel bad for the athletes and I honestly thought they had it good when they just received a free education, meals, nutritionist, opportunity to demonstrate talents, etc. etc. etc.
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I totally agree with the basic premise of your argument but need to make one slight comment. The $ 4 million that i estimate Nico made at UT (pre federal income tax) isn’t even close to being set for life. A million dollars isn’t what it used to be, especially in Southern California. It will not even get him a decent house. Properly invested; it will go a long way toward retirement. But he‘s going to have to work until then IMHO
 
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I don’t remember where I heard it but it is true. „You don’t just Land a recruit, you land a family“. Unfortunately for us (and now UCLA); this one is something else) 😳
 
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VolJarhead said:
It's hard to feel bad for someone that financially can retire in their 20s. He may not maximize his income, but he is set for life if he handed his money over to a financial planner. He is only making 1 million instead of 2 for this year. I'm sure his net worth is better than most posters. I will save my pity for the child that has cancer. I know I jumped a lot with that analogy, but I don't feel bad for the athletes and I honestly thought they had it good when they just received a free education, meals, nutritionist, opportunity to demonstrate talents, etc. etc. etc.
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Getting paid a couple million bucks at age 20, before taxes, is not remotely close to being set for life.
 
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Who ????

Seriously though, feeling bad for Nico is about like feeling bad for a lottery winner that goes through the cash buying up hookers and blow and is bankrupt in a year.
Also, say what you want about Dad and Family...I highly doubt all that cash was spent.
 
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LWSVOL said:
let me tell you about these young guys and their NIL incomes. The majority of them have "agents" taking as much as 20% of their NIL deals and I wouldn't be surprised at it being higher in some cases. There are no laws or regulations to control what the "agents" could get. Many are family members of the players but many are friends of family... Its bizarre what is going on. A lot of players are just getting ripped off...

Impeccable source familier with our players.
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Blows my mind that we have laws limiting what insurance agents and real estate agents can make on commissions, but not sports agents
 
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I can't speak on anyone's situation other than mine and I will never be in this position anyway.................but I can't image being the starting QB at arguably one of the most storied college football programs in the history of college football and then choosing to not be. This would just be my personal take, if I would have been fortunate enough to be blessed with the opportunity.
 
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Agree with all the responses to this. We got the best end of the deal and UCLA got snookered by Nico's dad. Also cost them over $1M to change schools. Nico can finish his career in the Rose Bowl in front of the 20K fans that show up with 2/3 of them for the visiting team. You get what you deserve sometimes.
 
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Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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Why feel sorry for him? The love of money is the root of all evil. He's just reaping what he sowed. You go from a playoff team, who's only going to improve, to a cellar dweller. I'm glad he did, now we got a competent QB in Joey Football.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
I feel like people are reading too much into Arch overthrowing a few passes in a game where he was playing the defending national champ and effective #1 team in the nation on the road. He was under constant pressure and was going against a DC that won 3 Super Bowls. I don't know if he's legit or not, but the degree of difficulty was pumped up to 11! He could still end up having a good season.

Whereas, Nico ... it's possible he doesn't get to 5 wins this year.
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chuck0303 said:
Not just on Arch. 2 times you can't punch it in from the 1????? It takes a team.
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Agree with both of you.

I'm not throwing Arch onto the dustbin of history. But he did have a horrifically bad game. And he and Nico were the two most hyped players of their recruiting class, the first class swimming the NIL waters in a big way. So both of their reputations took a big hit this week.

Is it on them alone? Not at all. Football's a team sport. But they did both play poorly. Them personally. And people saw that. And people are talking about that. And the lads do have to overcome that next Saturday and beyond. As I mentioned before, I have more faith that Arch can bounce back than Nico.

Go Vols!
 
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mudhen said:
I wonder if coach Heupel took Nico's dad to the woodshed and explained to him that Nico's stats were what, 8'th or something like that in the SEC?
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His father knew it. He feared the mask would fall off and people would realize that Nico's talent wasn't progressing in the college game to the point that it should - probably b/c of Nico's interest in the game. So,....looking out for his family's financial interests, he pressured UT to give more money than initially agreed using the CFP game as leverage. It didn't work. It backfired and UT is now the better with Nico in the rear-view mirror.
 
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Volanta said:
I’m not even mad anymore, I feel sorry for him. Serious question: how much of his money do you think he even sees? How many people are mooching off him? He reminds me of a child actor surrounded by vultures- people who are supposed to love him- giving him the worst advice.

And for those who say, “He’s in his 20s; he’s a grown man!” true, but in some cultures, obeying your parents is paramount and rarely questioned. I feel like we’re watching a train wreck, and it’ll only get worse week by week.

Am I too soft?
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Nico and Kiffen will live rent free in some of Vol Nation heads for a long, long, time. Because someone will always bring them up. Joey is our QB, and Josh is our head football coach. All the other crap does not matter.
 
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