Anybody going to the MAGA meet-up in Washington Thursday?

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Weezer said:
And we have no idea what these same people said behind closed doors about past presidents. They could easily have been saying the same about Obama or Bush or Clinton. It just so happens we see it about Trump because of a leak. How would you have felt if similar feelings about any other past president leaked out? Would you have really cared what another country thought about our president?
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We can hear negative about other Presidents here and there, but there is an avalanche about Trump, We hear it from workers and college students that he shafted, we hear from people he works with like Mattis and Kelly and from other countries. There are more women than accused Bill Cosby who have said he assaulted them. It's not just political parties and bias networks like Fox or MSNBC. I would hope many people would be disturbed by this kind of news, but apparently it's all about being Republican or Democrat, now.
 
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evillawyer said:
Oh come on. Trump specifically campaigned on the unsubstantiated claim that foreign leaders laughed at America in general and Obama in particular and that he would change that and America would again have the world's respect BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP. This is what makes the leak relevant. It shows what a farce Trump is and how even our allies now have zero respect for him.

Maybe the Brits said the same of prior presidents (they are a snotty, arrogant lot), I don't know. But none of those prior presidents ran on the theme that their predecessor was a weak-kneed kowtowing p*ssy who ruined America's standing in the world and that they alone could fix it.

And yes, it does matter whether our allies respect our leadership and feel like we can be counted on and trusted.
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Poland literally stated they couldnt trust Obama to uphold our defensive treaties against Russia. He had to do a lot of work late to win them back. And then you have the entire hacking happening under Obama. And he ran against Romney with a more Russian friendly vibe and that Romney was an idiot and that after the election he would have more flexibility.

Bush was a walking gaffe, ducking shoes, starting bs wars all over. He definitely ran a pro war campaign

Clinton didnt have as big of international issues to address. Probably some stuff I am unaware of here.

Bush senior puked on the japs.

Reagan lied about the arms deals and had to walk all that back about reading his lips. That couldnt have been a good look.

Again you are ignoring any number of past occurrences to hate on something that "only" happen with Trump.
 
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Velo Vol said:
What's their script when it comes to the trade of goods across the Atlantic?
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Fall in line with what they all are doing or be the American outsider . That being said , we will always be the “Americans “ no matter why we do . Just my opinion
 
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evillawyer said:
Oh come on. Trump specifically campaigned on the unsubstantiated claim that foreign leaders laughed at America in general and Obama in particular and that he would change that and America would again have the world's respect BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP. This is what makes the leak relevant. It shows what a farce Trump is and how even our allies now have zero respect for him.

Maybe the Brits said the same of prior presidents (they are a snotty, arrogant lot), I don't know. But none of those prior presidents ran on the theme that their predecessor was a weak-kneed kowtowing p*ssy who ruined America's standing in the world and that they alone could fix it.

And yes, it does matter whether our allies respect our leadership and feel like we can be counted on and trusted.
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Obama was a joke to the rest of the world. You are delusional, ma'am.


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LouderVol said:
Poland literally stated they couldnt trust Obama to uphold our defensive treaties against Russia. He had to do a lot of work late to win them back. And then you have the entire hacking happening under Obama. And he ran against Romney with a more Russian friendly vibe and that Romney was an idiot and that after the election he would have more flexibility.

Bush was a walking gaffe, ducking shoes, starting bs wars all over. He definitely ran a pro war campaign

Clinton didnt have as big of international issues to address. Probably some stuff I am unaware of here.

Bush senior puked on the japs.

Reagan lied about the arms deals and had to walk all that back about reading his lips. That couldnt have been a good look.

Again you are ignoring any number of past occurrences to hate on something that "only" happen with Trump.
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Bush league compared to what Truman did to them.
 
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JCP201 said:
We can hear negative about other Presidents here and there, but there is an avalanche about Trump, We hear it from workers and college students that he shafted, we hear from people he works with like Mattis and Kelly and from other countries. There are more women than accused Bill Cosby who have said he assaulted them. It's not just political parties and bias networks like Fox or MSNBC. I would hope many people would be disturbed by this kind of news, but apparently it's all about being Republican or Democrat, now.
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I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but you speak as if Trump is the first President to have women come out and accuse him of salacious behavior. Bill Clinton's numbers are right up there with Trump. America has become jaded to such things.

We'll find out if people care about Trump being a douche bag in 2020. It's not impeachable behavior, but it may be enough for him to lose. Or it's possible people won't care as long as the economy is good. Who knows?
 
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Weezer said:
I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but you speak as if Trump is the first President to have women come out and accuse him of salacious behavior. Bill Clinton's numbers are right up there with Trump. America has become jaded to such things.

We'll find out if people care about Trump being a douche bag in 2020. It's not impeachable behavior, but it may be enough for him to lose. Or it's possible people won't care as long as the economy is good. Who knows?
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Yes, Clinton's behaved with women similar before the world supposedly "evolved", and he was impeached. Like I said, people defending Trump like to claim he's the same as the rest but I don't see it.
 
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JCP201 said:
Yes, Clinton's behaved with women similar before the world supposedly "evolved", and he was impeached. Like I said, people defending Trump like to claim he's the same as the rest but I don't see it.
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Clinton wasn't impeached for his behavior with women. He was impeached for lying under oath. And he wasn't removed from office because his fellow Dems were okay with his behavior.

Maybe you don't see it because you choose not to see it.
 
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evillawyer said:
Oh come on. Trump specifically campaigned on the unsubstantiated claim that foreign leaders laughed at America in general and Obama in particular and that he would change that and America would again have the world's respect BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP. This is what makes the leak relevant. It shows what a farce Trump is and how even our allies now have zero respect for him.

Maybe the Brits said the same of prior presidents (they are a snotty, arrogant lot), I don't know. But none of those prior presidents ran on the theme that their predecessor was a weak-kneed kowtowing p*ssy who ruined America's standing in the world and that they alone could fix it.

And yes, it does matter whether our allies respect our leadership and feel like we can be counted on and trusted.
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I was promised I could keep my insurance plan too. Lol at believing politicians campaign promises.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Bill Clinton 'knows nothing' about financier Jeffrey Epstein's 'terrible crimes,' former president's spokesman says

POS denies everything and wants out of the conversation before it grows into a BIGGER monster.
LOl.........this could hurt Hillary's chance at becoming President.
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I think it's a little late for that, he's fked.


I could care less, he isn't relevant anymore. I hope he and hillary rots in jail. I want to see all these loud screaming current politicians, Hollywood, and big time names start dropping.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I think it's a little late for that, he's fked.


I could care less, he isn't relevant anymore. I hope he and hillary rots in jail. I want to see all these loud screaming current politicians, Hollywood, and big time names start dropping.
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I would derive a great deal of pleasure seeing some Hollywood perverts go down.
 
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