Any word on JG?

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#126
All this talk about JG having mobility is laughable. He's not Dobbs nor is he any more mobile than KC. Besides the best QB's are statues in the pocket. Chyrst is a threat in the passing game and doesn't hold onto the ball for 5 mins like JG. These next 5 games are paramount to Pruitt's rebuilding job for momentum and recruiting. If UT wins out no one will remember the losses but instead the win streak Tenn finished with to end the season. JG is not guaranteed the keys to the job next year. So it's irrelevant to suggest letting him build confidence to carry through this season for next year. It's classic UT fans saying "wait till next year". If JG starts Saturday I predict he will have a short leash. We need to show something on the field these next 5 games and IMO Chyrst gives us the best chance to win out. Again if Tenn wins out recruits will take notice. Just remember we can't see or predict the future. So live in the moment.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Fans had best get used to him as he's our guy for the next 2 1/2 years. He improves everyday and CJP loves his toughness and leadership. He reads defenses well enough to not throw into double coverage and he's the only QB we've had to win a road game vs a ranked team in a while. Dobbs was underdeveloped the same his 1st season. If he were not improving Chryst would be starting and our 2 backups would be auditioning for the QB role next season. Experience combined with arm talent will show through the rest of this season and the next 2. Trust me when I tell you that JG is not going away so best to get behind him. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it.
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If he is "our guy" for the next 2.5 years, we are in a much worse place than I ever dreamed of. Leadership, REALLY? is that a joke?

TRUST ME WHEN I SAY HE WILL BE A DISTANT MEMORY IN 2 YEARS
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Here is the thoughts on KC that many on VN have said. JG cant read a defense, react to blitzes and holds onto the ball too long. Now, they will say that KC has none of those deficiencies. Therefore, because of a very small sample size, the VN people have deduced that KC would be better. Forget the fact that KC has been unable to win the starting job. This is VN, where the backup QB is ALWAYS better than the starter.

I hope this helps.
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Actually, that's not true. I watched several of KC's Stanford games before the season and sincerely hoped that JG being named the starter meant he had or was overcoming those issues. KC had his own issues at Stanford and made very bad decisions at times. He is what he is physically. Mentally, he's about where a 5th year guy should be. The problem is that JG continues to lag in reading D's and making the right decisions. What's worse and many do not understand is that some guys (even otherwise intelligent guys) never overcome that. Some guys can't throw the ball like JG (in fact few can)… and some guys just can't grasp reads and decision-making as a QB. Nothing personal... just something that has held and is holding JG back. Dobbs struggled early on with reads but caught up in part through hard work in the film room. JG is still behind where you would expect a 3rd year player to be.
 
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Jack Burton said:
I also think JG will have a short leash. Get down a few scores, or if JG starts taking hits, then Chryst comes in and the offense likely improves.

We need to focus on winning now despite that hurting some of JGs development.
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This. No QB on our roster was going to beat Bama, but QB play tomorrow will most likely be the difference between victory or defeat.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Fans had best get used to him as he's our guy for the next 2 1/2 years. He improves everyday and CJP loves his toughness and leadership. He reads defenses well enough to not throw into double coverage and he's the only QB we've had to win a road game vs a ranked team in a while. Dobbs was underdeveloped the same his 1st season. If he were not improving Chryst would be starting and our 2 backups would be auditioning for the QB role next season. Experience combined with arm talent will show through the rest of this season and the next 2. Trust me when I tell you that JG is not going away so best to get behind him. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it.
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Why should anyone trust "you" on that? You don't know if or how much he's improving. He is most definitely still behind where a 3rd, not 1st, year QB should be. And no, not all of his coaches have sucked... even when Jones was around. Dobbs improved under those same coaches. His decision making and reads improved.

The OL didn't just suddenly start blocking better for no reason when KC went in vs Bama. Receivers didn't just all of a sudden figure out how to get space. KC impacted that in the way JG needs to.
PulaskiVolFan said:
If it were that easy I'm sure the coaches must see it too. You must think Coach Pruitt is an idiot if you can't understand why JG plays over Chryst, is that it, do you think Pruitt is an idiot for playing who you say is the worse option at QB for our team?
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Coach Pruitt made and is making decisions that will ultimately determine whether he succeeds or fails. You act as if there's concrete certainty to those decisions and that's why he chose JG. That is incorrect. There are risks in every decision including the QB one. If I had to guess, I'd say he saw JG's physical upside and felt he could be coached up and grow into the job mentally. Pruitt has hinted at a level of disrespect for Jones a few times... so I'm sure he didn't think JG had been coached well.

Pruitt is a guy who seems to stick with decisions until he has a definite reason not to. IMHO, JG is getting close to that level if he doesn't starting "getting it" soon. But my job doesn't depend on that decision... Pruitt's does so I'll pull for the Vols regardless.

Not saying you are one of them but there are a couple of guys who are pretty obviously JG fans rather than Vol fans. My only "agenda" is for UT to win and a QB that helps them do that.


PulaskiVolFan said:
My argument makes sense because it is clear that his last 2 head coaches do not believe he has the arm strength or moxy to be the teams leader and starting qb.
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That's actually not true. Stanford's coach publicly stated that he encouraged Chryst to find a program that needed him because he was worthy of a starting job.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Why? Please explain how a weaker armed, slower footed, immobile statued SR who basically got cut from Stanford for the same reasons, please explain how he is going to improve our team this season and next. I guess our running game will get better when they start facing 8 in the box and 11 within 10 yards of the LOS. What attributes does Chryst possess that would make him even remotely a better option? Nothing, zip, zero. Where he helps us changing out of a bad play, problem is that he doesn't have the physical talents to pull the changed play off in this league. Great kid I'm sure, talented enough to start for a bunch of teams, but not in this league. Chryst would not start at QB for any other team in the SEC, why would he at Tennessee?
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Lol Chryst actually gets yards when he pulls the ball down and first downs too.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Fans had best get used to him as he's our guy for the next 2 1/2 years. He improves everyday and CJP loves his toughness and leadership. He reads defenses well enough to not throw into double coverage and he's the only QB we've had to win a road game vs a ranked team in a while. Dobbs was underdeveloped the same his 1st season. If he were not improving Chryst would be starting and our 2 backups would be auditioning for the QB role next season. Experience combined with arm talent will show through the rest of this season and the next 2. Trust me when I tell you that JG is not going away so best to get behind him. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it.
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Dude..I dont think you know what leadership means/is. Reads defenses? He reads defenses like Stevie Wonder reads War & Peace. JG only plays because he is the underclassman on the roster. That. Is. It.
 
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RockyTopJess said:
They were blitzing JG with 6 guys almost every snap. If you go back and watch, when KC came in, they were blitzing 4 guys. The pressure definitely wasn’t the same.
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Has nothing to do with the fact they knew JG is bad and isnt going to beat them with his arm...............
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I've not seen it happen to JG lol
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So it’s Chrysts fault that his lineman completely stepped on his foot because he got blown off the line on the 1 yd line..... hmmm

Yet you haven’t seen JG do it.....

Well you know what I haven’t seen KC do? Throw an interception or fumble the ball because he was blindsided because he couldn’t read coverage.

See how this works?
 
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JG will start, but he's not healthy. He might be 80%, but I wouldn't go any higher than that. He'll try to play through it, but I don't think the coaches will hesitate to pull him out after a few series if he's unable to get it done.
 
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BisonVol said:
JG will start, but he's not healthy. He might be 80%, but I wouldn't go any higher than that. He'll try to play through it, but I don't think the coaches will hesitate to pull him out after a few series if he's unable to get it done.
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If JG is not 100% then I believe Pruitt is making a big mistake letting him start. Let KC play the whole game.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
So it’s Chrysts fault that his lineman completely stepped on his foot because he got blown off the line on the 1 yd line..... hmmm

Yet you haven’t seen JG do it.....

Well you know what I haven’t seen KC do? Throw an interception or fumble the ball because he was blindsided because he couldn’t read coverage.

See how this works?
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By that logic we should definitely have JG play.

After all you know what we haven’t seen KC do?

Win a game as starting QB
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
By that logic we should definitely have JG play.

After all you know what we haven’t seen KC do?

Win a game as starting QB
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Lol funny you comment on this. Considering the person I was responding to is the one who was the one doing the what has JG done that KC hasn’t done format.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If JG is not 100% then I believe Pruitt is making a big mistake letting him start. Let KC play the whole game.
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I dont mind him starting JG as long as he doesn't wait too long to make a change if JG struggles. If JG is throwing ducks because of the bruised ribs and the offense is stagnant, dont take forever to make a change. 2 series should be enough to see if he can be effective or not.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If JG is not 100% then I believe Pruitt is making a big mistake letting him start. Let KC play the whole game.
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I remain confused, in that an injured JG is the go to guy. Must be more here that the arguments being presented. Anyway it is likely that KC is in the game early and will finish it as well, with a come from behind victory.
 
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