What is so funny about all these post, not one can be proven, you speak of things that are said around a water cooler as if it were the truth..........Wow! the gullibility of people will never surprise me. Old saying "you can't fix stupid" and that pretty much fits many here.
Starting with you if you think Jones has performed well enough to retain his job.
There is another option I guess. Maybe mediocrity or worse is just fine with you? UT has one of the richest programs in the country... and you think it is acceptable for him to have one winning SEC record in 5 years? It is possible that you just don't care if UT competes for championships or becomes a whipping boy for UF and UGA in addition to the whole SEC West... Maybe you just enjoy the "competition" around the bottom of the SEC with Vandy, UK, USCe, etc.
IF they fire Butch, and I don't believe they will. That only tells me they don't have the spine to stick behind a man who has made many positive changes to UT Football.......and it doesn't always have to be W vs. L.
Yeah. Ultimately you expect the other things... but it is about W vs L. You are attempting a false dichotomy here. You don't have to accept a subpar coach to have a clean and well run program. The expectation isn't either/or... but both.
"Positive changes"? Dooley made "positive changes" to academics and off the field problems. The VFL program was his brain child. He didn't recruit well and didn't inherit a lot but Wilcox and Chaney are better coordinators than Jones has ever had... both are better coaches than Jones himself.
But Dooley was fired and rightly so.
Jones' performance has to be looked at and in particular as it relates to his ability and ceiling as a coach. He has CONSISTENTLY underperformed the talent on his roster.
A school that doesn't learn from it past mistakes will continue to make the same ones. Coach Jones is worth giving the time to build a program.
Indeed. The past tells us that keeping coaches who are not getting the job done will sink the program further. In the three years Fulmer was given between 2005 and 2008... the roster went from manageable to critically poor. We are at the same crossroad now with Jones. If he is kept... the next guy is screwed.
Jones has had 5 years to "build a program". In that 5 years, he brought in enough talent to do well... and couldn't coach it to potential. Now the talent has ebbed and he isn't even coaching that to potential. No amount of "building" is going to make Jones a winner. He simply doesn't have the talent as a coach.