ANTIFA Berkeley

[Carl Pickens]

Not really that complicated. The people he is reaching through these methods are rather simplistic. Think of it like a dog whistle. Only dogs hear it, and it doesn't take a genius to blow the whistle.

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[NorCalVol67]

Then why aren't these actions condemned more than they are by the left? If what you say is true, why does the left continue to condemn only one side of this? Generally the white supremacist portion of the political spectrum.

If liberals despise this as much as you say they do, they should be fighting it rather than sitting passively on the sidelines. If it is only a select few causing trouble, shouldn't they be joining forces with the conservatives that have the right to free speech as well and pushing these troublemakers out? We can squabble later over this or that, but your side supports this through inaction and your side is just as guilty as they are by allowing it to continue.

I can speak on a local level, when violence occurs at protests out here it is condemned. The anarchists are called out. The vast majority of people I know are left of center and do speak out against them. I have witnessed liberals getting in the face of anarchists and condemning their actions.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

How did Trump do this exactly?

I know this is cnn's talking point. Give me yours, because theirs is complete steaming pile of horse s#!t.

fyp

 

[Franklin Pierce]

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough ripped the University of California, Berkeley’s response to the violence that broke out Sunday, when members of Antifa attacked peaceful protesters who were marching against Marxism.

“This is an ongoing problem in Berkeley especially, where members of the far-left are using violence to shut down free speech and there, to shut down demonstrators,” Scarborough said on “Morning Joe” Monday. “They’re fascists in their behavior. There is nothing anti-fascist about that.”

Scarborough called Antifa out for hiding behind anonymity and said they were cowards for wearing masks. “Take your mask off. Take your mask off because you have a history of beating people and hiding behind that mask,” he said.

Scarborough also addressed the issue of free speech, and defended conservative author Ann Coulter.

He then turned his outrage to Berkeley’s administration and asked who was responsible for letting these protests spiral out of control.

 

[NorCalVol67]

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough ripped the University of California, Berkeley’s response to the violence that broke out Sunday, when members of Antifa attacked peaceful protesters who were marching against Marxism.

“This is an ongoing problem in Berkeley especially, where members of the far-left are using violence to shut down free speech and there, to shut down demonstrators,” Scarborough said on “Morning Joe” Monday. “They’re fascists in their behavior. There is nothing anti-fascist about that.”

Scarborough called Antifa out for hiding behind anonymity and said they were cowards for wearing masks. “Take your mask off. Take your mask off because you have a history of beating people and hiding behind that mask,” he said.

Scarborough also addressed the issue of free speech, and defended conservative author Ann Coulter.

He then turned his outrage to Berkeley’s administration and asked who was responsible for letting these protests spiral out of control.

I agree with the premise and have made some of the same points, but this particular instance was not on campus and the University had nothing to do with yesterday. However, what he said does apply to a number of instances over the last couple of years at Cal.

 

[volsarelife1]

It's funny seeing how luther just conveniently skipped over the posts about Obama and how he fostered an environment.

 

[Obsessed]

It's funny seeing how luther just conveniently skipped over the posts about Obama and how he fostered an environment.

He's a Soros paid shill...

I will no longer read or respond to his posts.

 

[luthervol]

You've got us inbreds figured out Loother.

I'm not assigning those traits to all trump supporters, no more than you would assign the traits of the radical left to all trump detractors.

 

[FLVOL69]

I'm not assigning those traits to all trump supporters, no more than you would assign the traits of the radical left to all trump detractors.

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[luthervol]

I agree with a lot of what Luther is saying, but I think we all too often lump everyone together based on the actions of a few. There are deplorables on the left, center and right. I am as guilty as anyone in making generalizations, but it does not help the dialogue and only increases the divide.

The violence in Berkeley yesterday was orchestrated by a small group of anarchists, people who want chaos and do not care about liberal ideals. Associating them with liberals is no more fair than saying all conservatives are white supremists. I was just speaking with a friend and she went yesterday to counterprotest and said it was great, but she left before the a**holes arrived.

I will now get off my soapbox.

Great post Norcal! I often take an extremist position on the PF to counterbalance the right wing extremists on here and to kind of offer an insight into how offensive and counterproductive extremist positions can be. I'm not sure the tactic is always effective, but it is kind of fun.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Trump is the POTUS. Not really comparable to all people. Trump fostered an environment conducive to Charlottesville.

If you mean by some taking already deranged left wing democrats and channeling their own inner hatred and anger into becoming even more deranged drooling fanatical commie/nazi/socialist morons..I guess.

Seems that would be more of a personal self control issue..unless Trump is sending them messages through their microwaves...

 

[FLVOL_79]

The statement is 100% accurate. That makes you a person who cannot recognize truth, and that is as nice as I can say it.

The irony is so..irony..

 

[volfanjustin]

I agree with a lot of what Luther is saying, but I think we all too often lump everyone together based on the actions of a few. There are deplorables on the left, center and right. I am as guilty as anyone in making generalizations, but it does not help the dialogue and only increases the divide.

The violence in Berkeley yesterday was orchestrated by a small group of anarchists, people who want chaos and do not care about liberal ideals. Associating them with liberals is no more fair than saying all conservatives are white supremists. I was just speaking with a friend and she went yesterday to counterprotest and said it was great, but she left before the a**holes arrived.

I will now get off my soapbox.

This is now the new democrat party, your party is run by alt left radicals ie Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. I promise you, you all will nominate someone far to the left of Hillary in 2020. There isn't room in the modern democrat party for moderates

 

[Orangedogsrule]

It's weird how Trump voters can be complete morons but also smart enough to pick up on codes and innuendos. Color me stupid because I didn't get any secret messages during the campaign.

Yeah you did ... thuh red caps are fer his Russia commie pinkoism. MAGA is actually AGAM spelled sdrawkcab. And we all know anything spelled backwards is devilish.

Turn me on dead man.

https://youtu.be/BGLGzRXY5Bw

 

[Grand Vol]

Great post Norcal! I often take an extremist position on the PF to counterbalance the right wing extremists on here and to kind of offer an insight into how offensive and counterproductive extremist positions can be. I'm not sure the tactic is always effective, but it is kind of fun.

Your position is not extremist. It's one of ignorance.

 

[Vol737]

Great post Norcal! I often take an extremist position on the PF to counterbalance the right wing extremists on here and to kind of offer an insight into how offensive and counterproductive extremist positions can be. I'm not sure the tactic is always effective, but it is kind of fun.

So you're saying you knew full good and well who ANTIFA was and what they were about all along? Duly noted Luther. We're on to you.

 

[luthervol]

Your position is not extremist. It's one of ignorance.

Extremism is always rooted in ignorance; with most every topic.

 

[Madscientistvol]

Great post Norcal! I often take an extremist position on the PF to counterbalance the right wing extremists on here and to kind of offer an insight into how offensive and counterproductive extremist positions can be. I'm not sure the tactic is always effective, but it is kind of fun.

Dang, I lurk here a lot but I haven't seen many right wing extremists. Care to elaborate what positions you consider extreme right so we can understand your personal view on the political spectrum a bit better?

 

[luthervol]

So you're saying you knew full good and well who ANTIFA was and what they were about all along? Duly noted Luther. We're on to you.

I did not good and well know who antifa was, and still really don't. They're maybe one tenth of the boogeyman you see them as. I view the alt right / white nationalist supremacist as a much larger and more dangerous group.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Dang, I lurk here a lot but I haven't seen many right wing extremists. Care to elaborate what positions you consider extreme right so we can understand your personal view on the political spectrum a bit better?

Capitalism is extreme right to him.

 

[FLVOL69]

Dang, I lurk here a lot but I haven't seen many right wing extremists. Care to elaborate what positions you consider extreme right so we can understand your personal view on the political spectrum a bit better?

He's a big Bernie Sanders guy, need I say more?

 

[InVOLuntary]

I did not good and well know who antifa was, and still really don't. They're maybe one tenth of the boogeyman you see them as. I view the alt right / white nationalist supremacist as a much larger and more dangerous group.

Well, you'd be wrong, as usual.

 

[luthervol]

Dang, I lurk here a lot but I haven't seen many right wing extremists. Care to elaborate what positions you consider extreme right so we can understand your personal view on the political spectrum a bit better?

'69, '79, (I'm curious about the correlation between names with a 9 and mental deficiencies) tums, and a number of others all are further right than I am left. If my posts seem extreme, then by definition, their posts would be even more extreme.

 

[Grand Vol]

Extremism is always rooted in ignorance; with most every topic.

Actually, I was referring to you sticking your head in the sand (even now) over antifa and the threat they pose. Your ignorance is bliss in your world and you would rather argue than actually see these turds for the threat they pose to both the right and the left. Because it's not like they are being picky about who they kick the **** out of.

But as long as you are ignorant, you can continue to downplay their actions as ultra right wing propaganda and look extremely foolish in doing so.

 

[Vol737]

I did not good and well know who antifa was, and still really don't. They're maybe one tenth of the boogeyman you see them as. I view the alt right / white nationalist supremacist as a much larger and more dangerous group.

Well, first, it was kind of tongue in cheek. Second, you are in a state of denial regarding Antifa, their size, numbers and their propensity for violence. You're not paying close enough attention and that's a shame. The "bogeymen" on the right don't have near the numbers. The few small groups on the right this past week that have tried to hold rallies simply in support free speech have been beaten and bludgeoned and have been far outnumbered by the alt left Antifa. Have been forced to cancel because of safety concerns and local law enforcement basically saying "we can't protect you. Figure it out.