Another shooting... nothing will change

[hndog609]

Most guns purchases are not for self-defensive. I think more guns are bought by hobbyists or hunters.

In fact, I would argue that a big dog is a better defense mechanism than a gun. Barking has been proven to scare away most attacks/burglars and prevent encounters in the first place. You are also a lot less likely to face any penalties if a dog bites/harms an attacker versus if you directly shoot them.

I think you're at least somewhat correct in your assessment if we are only talking rifles. I think a significant portion of handguns are purchased with SD at least somewhat in mind. (And by definition if intended for carry)

Dogs are great but off the table entirely for a lot of people for any number reasons. Even a little dog that would be almost useless as a "guard" dog can be useful as an "alarm" dog.

 

[theFallGuy]

Most guns purchases are not for self-defensive. I think more guns are bought by hobbyists or hunters.

In fact, I would argue that a big dog is a better defense mechanism than a gun. Barking has been proven to scare away most attacks/burglars and prevent encounters in the first place. You are also a lot less likely to face any penalties if a dog bites/harms an attacker versus if you directly shoot them.

72% cite self defense. And no a dog isn't better at self defense than a gun. Give me a break

For Most U.S. Gun Owners, Protection Is the Main Reason They Own a Gun

Gun owners in the United States continue to cite protection far more than other factors, including hunting and sport shooting, as a major reason they own a gun. About half of Americans who don’t own a gun say they could never see themselves owning one (52%) while nearly as many could imagine...

www.pewresearch.org

 

[appvol]

72% cite self defense. And no a dog isn't better at self defense than a gun. Give me a break

For Most U.S. Gun Owners, Protection Is the Main Reason They Own a Gun

Gun owners in the United States continue to cite protection far more than other factors, including hunting and sport shooting, as a major reason they own a gun. About half of Americans who don’t own a gun say they could never see themselves owning one (52%) while nearly as many could imagine...

www.pewresearch.org

I’ll take a 12 gauge over a dog

 

[C-south]

Most guns purchases are not for self-defensive. I think more guns are bought by hobbyists or hunters.

In fact, I would argue that a big dog is a better defense mechanism than a gun. Barking has been proven to scare away most attacks/burglars and prevent encounters in the first place. You are also a lot less likely to face any penalties if a dog bites/harms an attacker versus if you directly shoot them.

Nobody buys a sub compact for hobbies or hunting. If you shoot the criminal then nobody has to worry about scaring them away again or putting their dog in harms way.

 

[appvol]

 

[hndog609]

I know answers aren't easy to come by on this topic but how about stopping things like this:

He didn't even spend time in prison for his 6th felony gun conviction. Now he's charged with his 7th.

Prosecutors gave Damien Stewart a very, very sweet deal for his 6th felony gun conviction in May. He didn't spend a single night in prison for it. Friday, he was charged with having yet another gun. Welcome to Chicago.

cwbchicago.com

 

[volbound1700]

I think you're at least somewhat correct in your assessment if we are only talking rifles. I think a significant portion of handguns are purchased with SD at least somewhat in mind. (And by definition if intended for carry)

Dogs are great but off the table entirely for a lot of people for any number reasons. Even a little dog that would be almost useless as a "guard" dog can be useful as an "alarm" dog.

Yeah, I can agree with about everything you posted .

 

[Sandman 423]

Dude basically said that he understands that the mother of the shooter is grieving as well but needs to provide assistance to investigators. I don't get the eagerness to be offended by either side of the gender dysphoria argument.

 

[lawgator1]

Its a good thing a 22 year old intern runs the nationwide division that monitors the internet for warnings like this guy gave for months before the attack.

 

[hndog609]

Its a good thing a 22 year old intern runs the nationwide division that monitors the internet for warnings like this guy gave for months before the attack.

National? Being a Red Flag/ERPO state wouldn't that sort of thing fall on state/local agencies or are you just trolling?

 

[Zues1]

No, he committed the ad hominem fallacy - attacking the person who made the argument, instead of the argument itself. But hey, you're a Republican, I'm not surprised you find that a persuasive argument. Good job goober.

Goober? Are you in the 6th grade?

 

[evillawyer]

Goober? Are you in the 6th grade?

4th. I'm advanced for my grade level.

 

[C-south]

National? Being a Red Flag/ERPO state wouldn't that sort of thing fall on state/local agencies or are you just trolling?

LG crying about not enough federal government in here while crying about too much in another thread.

 

[appvol]

For anybody with Twitter can search what he said. This is the left. It’s too bad to be posted. Looks like he likes them young

 

[Zues1]

4th. I'm advanced for my grade level.

So you believe

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[rekinhavoc]

The Two Beasts: How the Media Gets Every Shooting Wrong

Mass shootings have two faces: hate and politics. The media makes them one story.

pjmedia.com

"The solutions benefit both sides. There is no reason Republicans and Democrats alike should not support them. The problems are real for everyone, and the cures would make the country safer for all. Yet agreement never comes. Could it be that, for some, it is more politically useful to leave the problem unsolved — to keep the blood flowing so it can be used to justify a cause? I hope not. But if that is the case, it would be nothing short of monstrous."