Another perspective of the CFP selection process

[J C Higgins]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

 

[zydane47]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

Yeah I don't see Clemson getting in even if they win out. Right now, every media pundit excluding a couple believe Tenn is in either way, the only monkey wrench is LSU and even then some, Reece Davis for example, believes you can't put LSU in over us because of the head to head. It'd take a lot for us to not get in, but I think either way we get one spot.

 

[Frosty]

Vols will be in playoffs man. Quit worrying anyways and enjoy the games

 

[Vollifer1949]

It would be atrocious if Clemson or any ACC team got in the playoffs. The expansion of the SEC and Big 10 have made other conferences irrelevant.

 

[WillisWG]

His guesstimate is no better than anyone else. With 2 regular season games then the championship games to be played there are too many scenarios to say for sure who makes in. We all see a spot open after the B12 match-up between OSU-Michigan but hard to say for sure who fills it or if it will be the only one that opens up. All the Vols can do is win out and let it all play out.

 

[supersmo18]

This is why any “committee” picking and choosing playoff spots rather than letting things play out from an expanded system (like it should’ve been all along) is a bad idea.

 

[OffTackleVol]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

LOL, if LSU somehow upsets Georgia, there will be 3 SEC teams in the CFP.

 

[JMSqb11]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

If this was the case, 1 loss USC and 1 loss Clemson would be ranked about 2 loss LSU and Bama......

Committee clearly values wins and quality of opponents.

The only outlier on this is TCU. If they go 13-0, they deserve to be in the playoff, but they are no one of the best 4 teams in the country. TCU at 13-0 is similar to Cincy last year. Not necessarily one of the best four teams, but one of the most deserving four teams. That is the task of the committee. To balance most deserving teams vs the best teams.

There is no world where a 1 loss USC, 1 loss Clemson would be favored anywhere remotely close to a 11-1 Tennessee or 11-2 LSU at that matter.

My guess and firm belief is the CFP will go 3 spots to the "best team" moniker and 1 spot to the "most deserving".... That is how TCU gets in. If TCU loses, they have no shot at CFP, even if they win the Big 12.

TCU loses and final spot will be between LSU, USC, OSU/Michigan Loser (long shot), and maybe Clemson (even longer shot)........

LSU can play their way into that final spot by beating #1 Georgia in Atlanta.

USC can play their way into final spot with winning their conference AND LSU losing in Atlanta.

OSU/Michigan loser needs LSU to lose in Atlanta, USC to not finish 12-1, and maybe Clemson not winning the ACC

We've had a lot of upsets since the debut of CFP rankings with Clemson, Alabama, and Oregon.... TCU is the last shoe to drop before chaos happens.

 

[Tman44]

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

GA-AL have been in the same playoffs twice so not sure that statement they don't want 2 teams from same conf is true.

 

[firedog28]

If LSU were to somehow beat Ga. in the SEC how could a 2 loss LSU jump over UT after UT beat them 40-13 ? There is no body in their right mind can give a logical answer to that !

 

[JMSqb11]

If LSU were to somehow beat Ga. in the SEC how could a 2 loss LSU jump over UT after UT beat them 40-13 ? There is no body in their right mind can give a logical answer to that !View attachment 515012

They wouldn't. LSU needs two things to happen to make the #4 seed. They need TCU to lose a game AND they need to beat Georgia in the SEC Title game.

There is no way they jump Tennessee. For them to jump Tennessee, that means head to head games don't matter. If head to head games don't matter, UGA would not stay in the playoff over Tennessee. Tennessee dropped 4 spots for losing to the #3 ranked team. #1 losing to #5 should drop them well outside the Top 5.

 

[vol94]

I’m staying away from all the articles as they drive me crazy. Keep in mind they each writer or blogger is trying to attract readers, hence stirring the pot. Many of them know less than the avg fan. The committee’s responsibility is to decipher the four best teams to compete for the ultimate prize.

TN should be one of them, esp if USC loses another game. Clemson and/or UNC do not have strong resumes and should be left out.

Go Vols! Playoff bound!

 

[AthensVol2007]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

Been saying this is my concern for a few weeks using the same stat they used; one-loss P5 champs don’t get left out. In a lot of instances they should’ve, based on the semi-final blowouts that ensued. But it’s never been about getting the 4 best or 4 most deserving teams, it’s about the eyeballs and rewarding champions, as if every conference championship is equivalent. Where would LSU be today if they’re in the ACC or Big 12? Likely undefeated. Where would Clemson be today had they gone on the road to TX, UT, LSU and OM like Bama? At least 2 if not 3 or 4 losses. It’s not apples to apples no matter how much the committee or the NCAA wants to make it. Clemson would maybe have half to a quarter of the playoff appearances they do if they played in the SEC or Big12 or Big 10 for that matter.

 

[HSTVol]

If we win-out and miss the playoffs, the only acceptable/explainable scenario would be:

Georgia wins-out retaining the #1 spot.

Undefeated Michigan beats undefeated Ohio State in the last minute of regulation or in OT. Michigan goes to #2 Ohio State drops to #4

TCU wins-out and finishes #3.

Before all the “but, but, but we lost to Georgia and dropped 4 spots…” starts. Look at the Georgia game for what it was. This is how the committee saw it and the media characterized it:

At #1, Tennessee was soundly defeated (“throttled” and “beat down” were the most commonly used terms) by #3 Georgia. In the post game press conference Smart admitted pumping the brakes at the end of the first half, settling for a FG instead of a touchdown to eat up the clock and end the half. Georgia threw only 3 passes in the second half, choosing to run the clock, trust their defense, and get a 14 point win.

Disagree all you want, but that’s how the media saw it and reported it. There are many many scenarios where we make the playoffs, I’m simply stating the one scenario I could understand if we miss.

 

[J C Higgins]

If we win-out and miss the playoffs, the only acceptable/explainable scenario would be:

Georgia wins-out retaining the #1 spot.

Undefeated Michigan beats undefeated Ohio State in the last minute of regulation or in OT. Michigan goes to #2 Ohio State drops to #4

TCU wins-out and finishes #3.

Before all the “but, but, but we lost to Georgia and dropped 4 spots…” starts. Look at the Georgia game for what it was. This is how the committee saw it and the media characterized it:

At #1, Tennessee was soundly defeated (“throttled” and “beat down” were the most commonly used terms) by #3 Georgia. In the post game press conference Smart admitted pumping the brakes at the end of the first half, settling for a FG instead of a touchdown to eat up the clock and end the half. Georgia threw only 3 passes in the second half, choosing to run the clock, trust their defense, and get a 14 point win.

Disagree all you want, but that’s how the media saw it and reported it. There are many many scenarios where we make the playoffs, I’m simply stating the one scenario I could understand if we miss.

You're correct that the media saw it that way as did fans not associated with either team. Or at least that's my experience.
We need for TCU to lose and/or either Michigan or tOSU to lose big.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

I've thought for several weeks that if we wind up with only one loss we would be in but as this article suggests the selection process isn't about which team is best and furthermore it suggests that the committee doesn't want two teams from any one conference.

Don't like it but if that's the way it's going to be and these bowl projections are accurate (Vols in Sugar Bowl) it's about the best we can hope for.

Clemson takes College Football Playoff spot in latest bowl projections

Dude if Clemson gets in over Tennessee, then something is seriously wrong.

 

[zydane47]

If we win-out and miss the playoffs, the only acceptable/explainable scenario would be:

Georgia wins-out retaining the #1 spot.

Undefeated Michigan beats undefeated Ohio State in the last minute of regulation or in OT. Michigan goes to #2 Ohio State drops to #4

TCU wins-out and finishes #3.

Before all the “but, but, but we lost to Georgia and dropped 4 spots…” starts. Look at the Georgia game for what it was. This is how the committee saw it and the media characterized it:

At #1, Tennessee was soundly defeated (“throttled” and “beat down” were the most commonly used terms) by #3 Georgia. In the post game press conference Smart admitted pumping the brakes at the end of the first half, settling for a FG instead of a touchdown to eat up the clock and end the half. Georgia threw only 3 passes in the second half, choosing to run the clock, trust their defense, and get a 14 point win.

Disagree all you want, but that’s how the media saw it and reported it. There are many many scenarios where we make the playoffs, I’m simply stating the one scenario I could understand if we miss.

I think the only way OSU doesn't drop out of the top 4 is a close loss to UM. Otherwise they're out, a lot of people in media are considering it an elimination game. Plus neither has the resume to stack up against ours. So long as we stay at #5, we're in.

 

[Section KK]

USC is a lot more exciting than a down-year Clemson team that everyone is tired of. Nobody wants to see Clemson, they’d rather see 2-loss bama, or UCLA, or anyone