another article smearing Peyton

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k-town_king said:
It is widely known Peyton did this. It doesn't make him a horrible person now. It was 20 years ago.
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It doesn't make him a horrible person and people do change. However, Payton did sexually assaulted her and tried to prevent the release of the story. I think the reason this story is gaining some much attention now is because how for years people associate mistakes others made at a young age and never allowed them to forget it. If we hold others accountable for there transgressions then Payton should be treated the same.
 
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RobsPics said:
Well what incentive does Saxon have to lie when he said this:

“First, I have stuck to my same story throughout this drama. I told Mike Rollo the next day and Coach Fulmer a week or two afterwards. I had nothing to hide at that point and I have nothing to hide today. I have never been on Jamie’s side or on your side. I stuck to the truth and I lost my eligibility for it. My redshirt request sat on Mike Rollo’s desk for months as the process was going forward. I’m not angry about it anymore, just getting a little tired of it.

Peyton, you messed up. I still don’t know why you dropped your drawers. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. But it was definitely inappropriate. Please take some personal responsibility here and own up to what you did. I never understood why you didn’t admit to it. Coming clean is the right thing to do.”
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Mr. Saxon is not a good plaintiff's witness. He voluntarily stated that he was was angry at UT, has shown that he held a long-standing grudge and provided a clear motive for discrediting Peyton Manning and UT.

Even though he's an adverse witness, he corroborated Peyton Manning's claim. "Dropped your drawers" and "mooning" can be construed as the same act-- one without physical contact. "Maybe it was a mistake" supports a claim that the act was without purposeful intent to inflict harm.
 
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RobsPics said:
Well what incentive does Saxon have to lie when he said this:

“First, I have stuck to my same story throughout this drama. I told Mike Rollo the next day and Coach Fulmer a week or two afterwards. I had nothing to hide at that point and I have nothing to hide today. I have never been on Jamie’s side or on your side. I stuck to the truth and I lost my eligibility for it. My redshirt request sat on Mike Rollo’s desk for months as the process was going forward. I’m not angry about it anymore, just getting a little tired of it.

Peyton, you messed up. I still don’t know why you dropped your drawers. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. But it was definitely inappropriate. Please take some personal responsibility here and own up to what you did. I never understood why you didn’t admit to it. Coming clean is the right thing to do.”
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Let's see. Saxon says he doesn't know why Manning dropped his drawers. Nothing about any kind of contact. Don't see your point.

He also says, "maybe it was a mistake." Seems to me the part he didn't agree with was that he thought it was inappropriate while Manning thought it was nothing more than a prank.
 
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RobsPics said:
Well what incentive does Saxon have to lie when he said this:

“First, I have stuck to my same story throughout this drama. I told Mike Rollo the next day and Coach Fulmer a week or two afterwards. I had nothing to hide at that point and I have nothing to hide today. I have never been on Jamie’s side or on your side. I stuck to the truth and I lost my eligibility for it. My redshirt request sat on Mike Rollo’s desk for months as the process was going forward. I’m not angry about it anymore, just getting a little tired of it.

Peyton, you messed up. I still don’t know why you dropped your drawers. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. But it was definitely inappropriate. Please take some personal responsibility here and own up to what you did. I never understood why you didn’t admit to it. Coming clean is the right thing to do.”
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This supports Peyton's account of the incident. Oddly enough, it also corroborates the trainer's original account -- before she changed her recollection of what happened.
 
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LA Vol said:
Mr. Saxon is not a good plaintiff's witness. He voluntarily stated that he was was angry at UT, has shown that he held a long-standing grudge and provided a clear motive for discrediting Peyton Manning and UT.

Even though he's an adverse witness, he corroborated Peyton Manning's claim. "Dropped your drawers" and "mooning" can be construed as the same act-- one without physical contact. "Maybe it was a mistake" supports a claim that the act was without purposeful intent to inflict harm.
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Perfect
 
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I love that Saxon "said" all that to Peyton. Not under oath. In a letter. That he kept a copy of and gave to plaintiff attorney.
 
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LA Vol said:
I'm an attorney. I know the difference.

You might want to check your facts and your grammar before posting, if you want to be taken seriously.
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Then you are a crappy lawyer if you think someone putting their testicles in another person"s face and penis on their head is sexual harassment.
 
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jwill said:
Then you are a crappy lawyer if you think someone putting their testicles in another person"s face and penis on their head is sexual harassment.
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:banghead2: Holy crap, are you that dense??

Her original story, Manning's original story, and the Witness' (presumably Saxon) original story was that there was no contact. They concluded that the "mooning" was not directed at her, thus there was no sexual "harassment." Assault was never in question!
 
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Kristy* said:
:banghead2: Holy crap, are you that dense??

Her original story, Manning's original story, and the Witness' (presumably Saxon) original story was that there was no contact. They concluded that the "mooning" was not directed at her, thus there was no sexual "harassment." Assault was never in question!
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So he paid her for nothing. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
 
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jwill said:
Then you are a crappy lawyer if you think someone putting their testicles in another person"s face and penis on their head is sexual harassment.
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Please cite evidence of physical contact. Because the sworn statement of the plaintiff-- that's Jamie Naughright, since you probably don't know what a plaintiff is-- does not claim physical contact.

Before we just thought you were ignorant on this topic. You've now proven it beyond any doubt, so we can all ignore you. Thanks.

It's Peyton, not Payton, BTW. Just in case anybody needed more evidence of your lack of knowledge and education in this area.
 
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LA Vol said:
Please cite evidence of physical contact. Because the sworn statement of the plaintiff-- that's Jamie Naughright, since you probably don't know what a plaintiff is-- does not claim physical contact.

Before we just thought you were ignorant on this topic. You've now proven it beyond any doubt, so we can all ignore you. Thanks.

It's Peyton, not Payton, BTW. Just in case anybody needed more evidence of your lack of knowledge and education in this area.
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You are a lawyer so should know that testimony and truth are two different things.
 
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jwill said:
It doesn't make him a horrible person and people do change. However, Payton did sexually assaulted her and tried to prevent the release of the story. I think the reason this story is gaining some much attention now is because how for years people associate mistakes others made at a young age and never allowed them to forget it. If we hold others accountable for there transgressions then Payton should be treated the same.
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No it's a story because he's a world famous athlete. If this happens at Washington state they aren't going to get nearly as much attention tying Ryan Leaf to the lawsuit

Also, it's Peyton
 
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jwill said:
So he paid her for nothing. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
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He's worth 100+ million. He paid her chump change to get rid of her. Because no matter how good the evidence is for him, he would have a jury of his peers. If he fought the charges, he'd just have to hope like hell he didn't have someone like you, who ignores all the facts, on his jury. PLEASE do some research on this. Or go away.
 
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Kristy* said:
He's worth 100+ million. He paid her chump change to get rid of her. Because no matter how good the evidence is for him, he would have a jury of his peers. If he fought the charges, he'd just have to hope like hell he didn't have someone like you, who ignores all the facts, on his jury. PLEASE do some research on this. Or go away.
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Truth hurts, you probably named a child after him they way you are defending the great Peyton Manning.
 
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RobsPics said:
Well what incentive does Saxon have to lie when he said this:

“First, I have stuck to my same story throughout this drama. I told Mike Rollo the next day and Coach Fulmer a week or two afterwards. I had nothing to hide at that point and I have nothing to hide today. I have never been on Jamie’s side or on your side. I stuck to the truth and I lost my eligibility for it. My redshirt request sat on Mike Rollo’s desk for months as the process was going forward. I’m not angry about it anymore, just getting a little tired of it.

Peyton, you messed up. I still don’t know why you dropped your drawers. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. But it was definitely inappropriate. Please take some personal responsibility here and own up to what you did. I never understood why you didn’t admit to it. Coming clean is the right thing to do.”
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Jamie Naughright is a vexatious litigant. Not my words (I had to look up 'vexatious'), those are the words used by a judge when dismissing her case against Donna Karan in 2011.
 
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There are witnesses and statements backing her story up. It has been reported before her version happened. Peyton has lost a couple of cases over this already. He did it. It doesn't change anything though. Its not like college kids don't make dumb mistakes all the time. If the exact same events and court outcomes happened to someone from another school everyone would believe it. Peyton is just human. He made a mistake along time ago. Archie covered it up. Even the local guys have been talking about Archie talking to reporters about not reporting the story. Archie with his money and influence tried to cover up the story and pay everyone off.
 
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