Analysis between Florida and Tennessee

[ivtec_jrod]

I have been thinking a lot lately what separates Tennessee and Florida in relation to wins and losses.

Looking at position coaches, compare position coaches from Tennessee and Florida (recruiting, coaching, instilling discipline, etc).

What areas do we have an edge on Florida and in return what do they have on us. Can we close the gap or excel beyond them with this new coaching staff.

How do our facilities compare to there's in a non-biased opinion? Do they entice recruits more than ours?

Let's open-up the forum and discuss. Thank you.

 

[Volsforlife]

Meyer in first year was 8-4 I think. So if we could do that I would be happy. Wait until game time and we will see what team shows up. It might be a bumpy ride this year but next should be a lot better.:clapping:

 

[Pacer92]

I think our facilities are second to none. However, when you mix average talent and average coaching together = ass beating. I think the talent will be here in a year or two...the coaching is here!

 

[PA Vol]

um, a real good thing they have for them is being located in the state of Florida. just look at all the talent just oozing from that state. easily an extreme advantage for them, not just over us, but the rest of the nation as well.

 

[tri_vol]

I think our offensive scheme should give us an advantage. We can sell recruits on the chance to play in a pro style offense vs. a college spread. The fact that our coaches have tutored all-pro NFL qb's should be an attraction and having the NFL's greatest defensive mind should also be a big pull for recruits. Of course all of this hinges on W's.

 

[General Jack]

As has been stated, the single biggest difference now is that florida has the best instate talent in the nation. Fortunately, with the inroads our new staff has made into florida, combined with the volume of talent in the state... there are plenty of studs to go around. Programs are limited to 85 scholarships, which helps even the playing field. What helps even it more is the talent scouting ability among staffs. Hopefully our staff will be as good as advertised when it comes to evaluating talent. If so, we should effectively be able to get our talent level on par with the gators. At that point, it boils down to coaching. We have a proven staff working under Lane Kiffin. Kiffin himself isn't necessarily proven, although I think in time he has potential to be great.

The single factor that would help us the most right now is complacency settling in with the gators.... kind of like happened with fulmer. Unfortunately, CUM could probably sleep walk his way to better coaching than fulmer did over the past decade, so it would take quite a drop off in that regard.

Make no mistake, we will have to work harder to achieve the same success as the gators because of their instate talent advantage and the fact they are currently on top. But things are cyclical...

 

[Cartervol]

Miami and florida state being down has benefited the gators the most down there. They're always going to get their share, but they've been getting the pick of the litter for a few years now. If those programs can turn it around, might thin it back out some.

 

[jrfisher]

Once we get the talent pool elevated, the W's will come.

 

[99gator]

i can't comment on facilities. i have never seen tennessee's. every big time program thinks they have the best facilities in the country. who knows? i will just say that i am willing to bet that the difference between facilities at florida and tennessee is so small that it doesn't matter.

as far as coaches go, i think it all starts at the top because assistants come and go, especially if you're program is successful.

i wouldn't trade urban meyer for anyone else right now and that's not homerism talking either.

as far as florida state and miami go, the new recruit who just committed to tennessee shows all you need to know about florida state and miami right now. they weren't even a factor in the delvin jones sweepstakes.

 

[usmcvol4ever]

me and daniel tried calling you last night jered. did you go and change your number too without letting us know?

 

[orangebloodgmc]

um, a real good thing they have for them is being located in the state of Florida. just look at all the talent just oozing from that state. easily an extreme advantage for them, not just over us, but the rest of the nation as well.

True. I felt bad about us losing to them and it not being all that close (beat us by 24). But some of Florida's other SEC W margins last year:

58 pts over KY
50 over SC
39 over Ga
31 over Ark
30 over LSU

They also beat Florida State by 30 and beat Miami 26-3.

 

[OrangeU]

if urban really does stay around and lane does as well as we all hope, this rivalry will be taken to a whole 'nother level. you won't have to worry about game day being there every year. but, to stay on task, the differences are mostly geographical as far as recruiting. our coaching staff is solid, we just need to prove it. theirs, very obviously, already has.....

 

[AFL2008]

Florida has a couple of advantages right now:

A big one is location.

But, IMO, the biggest advantage right now is coaching. UF has the best head coach in the NCAA, and one of the best staffs in the whole country.

If you combine great recruiting AND great player development, you can create a dominant team. Florida is one of those teams right now.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Not mentioned yet(I dont think). But Charlie Strong is as big a reason for their success as CUM.

 

[CardassianVol]

um, a real good thing they have for them is being located in the state of Florida. just look at all the talent just oozing from that state. easily an extreme advantage for them, not just over us, but the rest of the nation as well.

Another advantage is that FSU and Miami are in a down cycle and the Gators are at their peak. It most likely can't get better than it is right now for them. That will change. They won't go away, but they won't dominate like they do right now in a few years.

 

[lsutiga]

As has been stated, the single biggest difference now is that florida has the best instate talent in the nation. Fortunately, with the inroads our new staff has made into florida, combined with the volume of talent in the state... there are plenty of studs to go around. Programs are limited to 85 scholarships, which helps even the playing field. What helps even it more is the talent scouting ability among staffs. Hopefully our staff will be as good as advertised when it comes to evaluating talent. If so, we should effectively be able to get our talent level on par with the gators. At that point, it boils down to coaching. We have a proven staff working under Lane Kiffin. Kiffin himself isn't necessarily proven, although I think in time he has potential to be great.

Not arguing about Florida's in-State talent but can't say that without throwing in Texas and California too. Last year's Top 100 included Texas with 15 as did Florida. California was right behind with 11.

I think in this year's class the three States have 40% of the top 100- seems like I read that recently.

In relation to the thread, I do think UT has pulled in some great recruiters and will pull some more. Congrats on Janzen btw.

I was really hoping Coach O would end up in Baton Rouge.