An Honest Eval. from a guy who was there..

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I know this is volnation, and we tend to overreact.

We lost the game for one pure reason :Florida looked like a club who played under the bright lights before, we didnt.
-We made countless presnap mistakes (illegal formations, false starts)

-I like Bray, but he just wasnt very good last night. Missed easy short to mid level throws. People who were in neyland last night could tell you he missed some WIDE OPEN recievers down the field that you cant see on tv.

-I like our recievers, but 4 total drops from CP and Jhunt? a few more from other guys? Hard to win when our stars don't come out and play like stars in this big of a game.

-Dooley : Him and Sal failed to make crucial adjustments, we looked like a team who has never defended a jet sweep before. Also, something that concerned me was Muschamp coached to win, We coached a little scared.

- But all in all, should we fire dooley now? I dont think so. Still have plenty of big games left this year to sort it out.

Just my take.. I drove 13 hours to see this game, first trip to neyland. What an atmosphere it was..
 
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Sorry you had to drive 13 hours to see that crap. We (sadly) can't fire Dooley right now but when we are 6-7 at the end of the year we better.
 
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I'm glad you made the trip and wished the outcome would have been different. I think all the fans thought that we had finally turned the corner on working our way back up. Last night was a big step back.
 
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CTVolsfan14 said:
I know this is volnation, and we tend to overreact.

We lost the game for one pure reason :Florida looked like a club who played under the bright lights before, we didnt.
-We made countless presnap mistakes (illegal formations, false starts)

-I like Bray, but he just wasnt very good last night. Missed easy short to mid level throws. People who were in neyland last night could tell you he missed some WIDE OPEN recievers down the field that you cant see on tv.

-I like our recievers, but 4 total drops from CP and Jhunt? a few more from other guys? Hard to win when our stars don't come out and play like stars in this big of a game.

-Dooley : Him and Sal failed to make crucial adjustments, we looked like a team who has never defended a jet sweep before. Also, something that concerned me was Muschamp coached to win, We coached a little scared.

- But all in all, should we fire dooley now? I dont think so. Still have plenty of big games left this year to sort it out.

Just my take.. I drove 13 hours to see this game, first trip to neyland. What an atmosphere it was..
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TB missed several receivers, that could be seen on TV. That being said MR and ZR were our best play makers last night. Both played well, and should have been thrown to more often. I think JH was too hyped for the game, he dropped balls he normally catches 100 out of 100 times.
 
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You know what guys, being stuck in Conneticut, making the trip was awsome. Friday the guy at gate 7 actually let me on the field for a few mins.. Neyland really is special guys.. Ive been at a bunch of big Nfl games over the years (AFC titles, the 16-0 game) it doesnt compare to neyland. Was a heck of a game for 3 qs.

Just really bothers me that a solid 5-10 thousand people started to leave when there was 11 mins left down 14 with 3 timeouts.. You'd get beat up if you did that at a patriots game.

but all in all, what an expiernce. Times are tough now, but just believe in the system..times will get better
 
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CTVolsfan14 said:
I know this is volnation, and we tend to overreact.

We lost the game for one pure reason :Florida looked like a club who played under the bright lights before, we didnt.
-We made countless presnap mistakes (illegal formations, false starts)
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Florida made a lot of mistakes too. I remember them getting penalized a ton during the Urban years as well (personal fouls, holding penalties that were completely unnecessary, etc.) and the frustrating thing about them is that it never seemed to cost them a game. Florida had several costly penalties (false start on a 3rd and short play, roughing the passer after a 2nd down incompletion, multiple pass interference calls, etc.). They just played well enough to where it didn't cost them the game.

There was a noticeable difference between Driskel and Bray. Specifically between those two, Driskel looked like a guy who had played under the bright lights before and Bray did not. Quite interesting considering Bray has been at the college level longer.
 
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Volballfan said:
TB missed several receivers, that could be seen on TV. That being said MR and ZR were our best play makers last night. Both played well, and should have been thrown to more often. I think JH was too hyped for the game, he dropped balls he normally catches 100 out of 100 times.
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Your are right they should have been thrown to alot more.Both catch the ball and seem to stay grounded.The play calling was terrible.Run the ball more.PA pass more. Screens would be nice. Why not pull a guard and run to the ouside.Try more of the wild cat formation.None of our freshman played.Why not? Pig thought he was ready.Croom browles were are they?Marlin got what two carries.Q speedy pull a fkn guard and go to the side with the TE blocking and the guard plus a WR blocking. Chaney just doesnt have it guys. The defense I think is better need to get elite DBs not 3*s.We dont have time to wait for them to develope up to par to the elites.Teague shouldnt be a DB. Were was waggoner and gordon.
And obviously not having DR hurt us say what u want
 
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I thought the game atmosphere and our fan base was a joke. I was in HH and had maybe 1000 gator fans behind me. The way the chanted and cheered made them sound like 50000. You could hear them laughing when the stadium looked like you pulled a fire alarm with 10:00 minutes left in the game.
And for all of you who scream tradition, etc. Playing Kenny Chesney watching black and white footage of old games is no way to get people fired up for the 4th quarter. Stadium needs new blood. If it takes pumping DMX over the loud speakers or wearing black jerseys every so often, do it. These are kids and all they talk about on their twitter accounts is swag . Does no one remember the South Carolina on Halloween when we came out in black? Those kids were so jacked that most NFL teams would have been beaten that night.
 
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Bray has yet to play well for 4 quarters against a quality opponent. No matter how you break it down, you can't excuse the obvious. Until the QB plays well against the Florida's, Alabama's, Georgia's (quality opponents) for 4 quarters, I'm afraid that we will keep seeing the same results.
 
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So, Fulmer didn't beat Florida every year (rarely did, as I recall), Kiffin had a "moral victory" (read: loss), and Dooley lost three times, twice with no depth and little SEC-level talent left on his roster, once with a new defensive scheme...

Is everyone in this fanbase 12 years old, and a fair-weather fan?
 
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The main thing is it doesnt take a very smart person to realize we were completely outcoached in the second half Say what you want but it was extremely obvious
 
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keithpowers said:
So, Fulmer didn't beat Florida every year (rarely did, as I recall), Kiffin had a "moral victory" (read: loss), and Dooley lost three times, twice with no depth and little SEC-level talent left on his roster, once with a new defensive scheme...

Is everyone in this fanbase 12 years old, and a fair-weather fan?
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Correct. CPF's teams, which were more talented that UF's several times, rarely beat UF and were embarrassed several times by them including with Manning at QB. Our defense is still not very talented and does not have enough speed at LB.
 
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keithpowers said:
So, Fulmer didn't beat Florida every year (rarely did, as I recall), Kiffin had a "moral victory" (read: loss), and Dooley lost three times, twice with no depth and little SEC-level talent left on his roster, once with a new defensive scheme...

Is everyone in this fanbase 12 years old, and a fair-weather fan?
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Good points you made thanks
 
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tenaseevolz said:
I thought the game atmosphere and our fan base was a joke. I was in HH and had maybe 1000 gator fans behind me. The way the chanted and cheered made them sound like 50000. You could hear them laughing when the stadium looked like you pulled a fire alarm with 10:00 minutes left in the game.
And for all of you who scream tradition, etc. Playing Kenny Chesney watching black and white footage of old games is no way to get people fired up for the 4th quarter. Stadium needs new blood. If it takes pumping DMX over the loud speakers or wearing black jerseys every so often, do it. These are kids and all they talk about on their twitter accounts is swag . Does no one remember the South Carolina on Halloween when we came out in black? Those kids were so jacked that most NFL teams would have been beaten that night.
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In restrospect, I wish we had worn black last night when we had a totally incompetent offensive coordinator calling plays and a defensive coordinator who was giving up 80 yard plays. IF black uniforms had any credibility then Vanderbilt would be conference champions every year. And the Oakland Raiders would be an all time NFL dynasty.

We do not need gimmicks, we need coaches.
 
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keithpowers said:
So, Fulmer didn't beat Florida every year (rarely did, as I recall), Kiffin had a "moral victory" (read: loss), and Dooley lost three times, twice with no depth and little SEC-level talent left on his roster, once with a new defensive scheme...

Is everyone in this fanbase 12 years old, and a fair-weather fan?
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Makes you wonder....
 
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All these negavols are doing the exact same thing they are complaining about our team doing: giving up. Fair weather fans, drama queens, negavols... if you're a real UT fan then show support! (Some of them might be 13) GBO!!
 
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05_never_again said:
Florida made a lot of mistakes too. I remember them getting penalized a ton during the Urban years as well (personal fouls, holding penalties that were completely unnecessary, etc.) and the frustrating thing about them is that it never seemed to cost them a game. Florida had several costly penalties (false start on a 3rd and short play, roughing the passer after a 2nd down incompletion, multiple pass interference calls, etc.). They just played well enough to where it didn't cost them the game.

There was a noticeable difference between Driskel and Bray. Specifically between those two, Driskel looked like a guy who had played under the bright lights before and Bray did not. Quite interesting considering Bray has been at the college level longer.
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Thank you. Florida made so many mistakes. I though it was going to give us an advantage.
 
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keithpowers said:
So, Fulmer didn't beat Florida every year (rarely did, as I recall), Kiffin had a "moral victory" (read: loss), and Dooley lost three times, twice with no depth and little SEC-level talent left on his roster, once with a new defensive scheme...

Is everyone in this fanbase 12 years old, and a fair-weather fan?
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The new defensive scheme should not be an excuse for giving up 560 yards of offense to an offense that's been anemic for 2 seasons now. FL looked pathetic vs BGSU and we made them look like title contenders in the 2nd half.
 
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