Amazes me how Richt is still pulling in this talent

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#52
Richt has the most proven SEC recruiter in modern history (with the possible exception of Saban) on his staff. Fulmer had him for a while too and you saw what happened.
 
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#53
So let me get this straight, there's a bammer,ugga, gamefoul,and a gayter on our TENNESSEE message board, at the same time? We're ah barner away from a good time....
 
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Windy City Vol said:
All that said & considered, I think we're doing pretty well in recruiting then! Especially given all the instability & down years. & especially since our last NC was when most of these recruits were 8 yo's. I think we'll finish reasonably strong, & things will only go up from here, as our team gets better, more young kids get in the depth chart & on the field, people start to see what Hiestand & Smith can do with line players, what Hinshaw can do with a QB, etc. I think we're on the way to better days.
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I agree 100%, I hate to say this but it makes u appreciate the kids Fulmer pulled in his glory days
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I agree with OP, Georgia will be scary good with a decent coach. I just pray Richt will keep pulling a Jeff Fisher. Win just enough to not be fired but lose enough to not challenge for the conference.
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There for a minute I thought you were talking about run-out-the-clock Fulmer from the opening kickoff. Oh wait, time finally caught up to him. Maybe Richt will take Fulmer's place on CBS.:eek:lol:
 
#59
#59
I watched the Scout video of Rome talking about his commit. Bottom line, he grew up a huge fan and they did a good job recruiting.

Personally I don't see it as much different than Tennessee trying to get Richardson, Clear, et al to stay home. We haven't exactly been tearing it up. But we get a leg up because some of these kids grew up big Tennessee fans, and we have coaches that do a good job building the relationship - just like the UGA staff. A good number of kids are attracted to the idea that this coach knows what they're doing and we're going to turn it around and I can be part of it. We'd be screwed otherwise.

edit: I'll probably regret this, but I think CMR is a better coach than he gets credit for - he, just like every other SEC coach, is just in the toughest place to be in college football - the SEC. His record is pretty good all things considered. And he's a solid man.
 
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#60
lots of talend in the state of GA. there is no excuse for them not to pull in good classes
 
#63
#63
UGA is going to get good classes pretty much every year. There is a lot of talent in GA and they have a good tradition. Problem is they have been underachieving severely lately, especially this past year.
 
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#64
UGA has landed classes like this EVERY SINGLE YEAR for the last decade and a half. This is absolutely nothing new. Their problem is flat out coaching. They have a very averge to below average staff considering the amount of talent they've had all these years. I'm ,mean your talking about a program with elite Top 5 talent every year over the last decade. Big-time underachievers.
 
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#65
Georgia has tons of talent and most grow up wanting to wear the Red and Black regardless of who the coach is and what their record is!!! Its called loyalty to your home state and it won't change. Football programs in GA are strong and will continue to be and UGA will get their fair share of the players. Tennessee needs to start doing something at the youth level to improve their programs!
 
#66
#66
Georgia has an abundance of talent. You would have to be :crazy: to not be able to keep many of those in-state.
 
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#67
Most of you missed a very valid point. UGA has 76% of their current recruiting class from the state of Georgia. They have always had that luxury. It is why Richt and the other coaches have been able to be in the top three to five in recruiting in the SEC and top five to fifteen in the nation consistently.

If, UGA got another coach. And, they faired better than a nine win average every season. The rest of the SEC and nation may get a few less recruits from UGA. But, it wouldn't be a significant change! UT and others would still get a lot of high end recruits from Georgia. Georgia has plenty of high end recruits for lots of SEC teams to pick up a few or several! There are 140 5, 4, and 3 star players in the 2011 class from the state of Georgia. In comparison, Tennessee only has 28. While the number of recruits from TN can only make up one SEC team in numbers, GA can make up five!!!
 
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AJeray4TN said:
What does that have to do with Richt being on the hot-seat, and the rest of America recognizing it and understanding why?
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CMR being on the hotseat is a good topic.

But, I'm talking specifically about the paradoxical mindset that we love our team, but the opponent's coach(s) is a bumbling stumbling fool who can only be laughed at. The same coach(s) that just spanked hard the very team that we cheer for.

Where does that put us in the equation when "Saint Mark", the "Mad Hatter" (3 in a row!), and "Urban Cryer" (6 for 6) and then the leader of this subject matter "Tim Tebow (4 for 4)", who have humiliated us recently. If they suck so bad, then where does that leave us?

It's one thing for fans of dominant teams to act like childish classless jerks who make fun of the opponent, like a pack of middle school girls. We call them jerks etc.

We have 2 losing records and a .500 in the past three seasons, and some still laugh at the people who beat us. It's hard to find a word for that. :crazy: No offense.
 
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volsgrad89 said:
Most of you missed a very valid point. UGA has 76% of their current recruiting class from the state of Georgia. They have always had that luxury. It is why Richt and the other coaches have been able to be in the top three to five in recruiting in the SEC and top five to fifteen in the nation consistently.

If, UGA got another coach. And, they faired better than a nine win average every season. The rest of the SEC and nation may get a few less recruits from UGA. But, it wouldn't be a significant change! UT and others would still get a lot of high end recruits from Georgia. Georgia has plenty of high end recruits for lots of SEC teams to pick up a few or several! There are 140 5, 4, and 3 star players in the 2011 class from the state of Georgia. In comparison, Tennessee only has 28. While the number of recruits from TN can only make up one SEC team in numbers, GA can make up five!!!
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Exactly. Dooley had some excellent teams and Richt also. But, the "scientific" research study that was done 3 or 4 years, and shown around here, actually showed GA having a slightly higher % of D1 talent than FL. Almost identical.

UGA is the "premier" football prog in the state, with GT being a tier down in my mind. It does beg the question (not only @ Richt) as to why UGA has not had even more success than they have. Winning a NC is extremely difficult and an SECC is not easy either.

But, the in-state talent and long term program success looks a little skewed IMO. Should they not be winning an SECC every 5th year or so? Richt has 2 in 10, and Dooley had 6 in 24 or 25yrs (One a NC), so these two have been on pace overall. But the recent others ... Uga-ly.
 
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livefaith said:
CMR being on the hotseat is a good topic.

But, I'm talking specifically about the paradoxical mindset that we love our team, but the opponent's coach(s) is a bumbling stumbling fool who can only be laughed at. The same coach(s) that just spanked hard the very team that we cheer for.

Where does that put us in the equation when "Saint Mark", the "Mad Hatter" (3 in a row!), and "Urban Cryer" (6 for 6) and then the leader of this subject matter "Tim Tebow (4 for 4)", who have humiliated us recently. If they suck so bad, then where does that leave us?

It's one thing for fans of dominant teams to act like childish classless jerks who make fun of the opponent, like a pack of middle school girls. We call them jerks etc.

We have 2 losing records and a .500 in the past three seasons, and some still laugh at the people who beat us. It's hard to find a word for that. :crazy: No offense.
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WOW!!!

Post of the year by far. I feel the same frustration towards some of our fans as well.

:yes:
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I don't get the squandering talent argument. Richt's season average was 10-3 before this year, played for 3 SEC titles last decade (won 2), and played in 3 BCS bowls (won 2). He brings in good talent, not UF, LSU, or Bama talent mind you. And guess what? Those are the teams he finishes behind. His recruiting classes are 3-4 in the SEC and UGA normally finishes in that range.
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Then you either don't believe in recruiting rankings or you are just dumb. As of last year (I haven't run the numbers again), UGA had the best recruiting rankings in the SEC over the previous 7 years (or maybe I did the previous 5...can't remember).

In short, Richt has had more highly rated talent on his team than the last 5 national championship winning teams from the SEC. And yet you can pencil in at least 3 losses on UGA's schedule every year.

If that isn't just the absolute epitome of squandering talent, then perhaps I just don't know what the verb "to squander" means.
 
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livefaith said:
CMR being on the hotseat is a good topic.

But, I'm talking specifically about the paradoxical mindset that we love our team, but the opponent's coach(s) is a bumbling stumbling fool who can only be laughed at. The same coach(s) that just spanked hard the very team that we cheer for.

Where does that put us in the equation when "Saint Mark", the "Mad Hatter" (3 in a row!), and "Urban Cryer" (6 for 6) and then the leader of this subject matter "Tim Tebow (4 for 4)", who have humiliated us recently. If they suck so bad, then where does that leave us?

It's one thing for fans of dominant teams to act like childish classless jerks who make fun of the opponent, like a pack of middle school girls. We call them jerks etc.

We have 2 losing records and a .500 in the past three seasons, and some still laugh at the people who beat us. It's hard to find a word for that. :crazy: No offense.
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Who ever called Urban Meyer a bumbling stumbling fool?

Les Miles and Mark Richt can very fairly be accused of squandering talent. Phillip Fulmer could have very fairly been accused of squandering talent. Ron Zook could have very fairly been accused of squandering talent.

And, by the way, we have humiliated Richt more times than he has returned the favor.
 
#73
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bowlinggreenvol said:
You obviously disagree with recruiting on paper then cause UGA does not bring in top 5 classes like those guys, save Auburn. I would gladly take 10-3 seasons with a chance to reach Atlanta every other year or so.
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You may agree with recruiting on paper, but you certainly aren't particularly well-informed on the subject:

Average Rivals ranking over the past 7 classes ('04-'10):
Florida: 5.85
UGA: 7.28
LSU: 7.714
Bama: 8.71

The previous 7-year window ('03-'09):
Florida: 5.86
UGA: 6.85
LSU: 6.86
Bama: 15 (they had a really weak class in '03)

You still happy with those 10-3 seasons, smart guy?
 
#74
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after georgia,s last few years on;y 10 plus wins and major bowl win ,if dogs win between 6 and 8 games he will be fired before bowl game. then alot of transfers ,but it is amazing for them to be landing all the big time recruits.this is different subject but tennessee needs to get home state boy in antonio richardson,and cam clear,also they need too land g wright,t jernnagin,lamar dawson and lanier and moore;
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