Alumnus Sues UT Over Football Ticket Rights

#2
#2
Neyland himself agreed to the deal? That is pretty sad that ut took that tact. Being a Vet, i am use to the government changing the rules after the game has been played, but now it is trickling down to universities. I hope the complaintiff wins.
 
#3
#3
I think he should be able to keep his seats. He has a contract that extends generations.
 
#5
#5
Would be kinda nice to see the university on the receiving end of "The Big Orange Screw." :rock2:
 
#6
#6
He has a contract for seats that will no longer exist after the renovations. They tried to give him comparable seats
 
#7
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bigtime said:
I think he should be able to keep his seats. He has a contract that extends generations.
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Expenses continue to rise. How much more are you willing to pay in increased tuition, fees, student tickets, etc, so that this man can keep his cheap seats?
 
#8
#8
He needs to pony up the 6 grand or watch it from home...
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#9
#9
They should upgrade him.

Air conditioned,uva,uvb,uvc,polarized plexi-glass
stadium boxes.

:mf_surrender:
 
#10
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VolDad said:
Expenses continue to rise. How much more are you willing to pay in increased tuition, fees, student tickets, etc, so that this man can keep his cheap seats?
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Whatever it takes. MTSU has nothing to do with this.
 
#14
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Are both seats being redirected to the other side of the stadium? If not he has a contract for those seats. I say his family name is entitled until they refuse the tickets, under those terms. Not what the university mandates. After the fact.
 
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volger said:
Are both seats being redirected to the other side of the stadium? If not he has a contract for those seats. I say his family name is entitled until they refuse the tickets, under those terms. Not what the university mandates. After the fact.
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"....... gave William Luck lifetime rights to buy tickets for both seats in a 1961 contract......because of renovations they were moving his seats."

His father, who passed in 2002, had lifetime rights to buy tickets for both seats. Since, because of renovations, both seats will no longer exist (thus ending their lifetime and fulfilling their commitment), what rights does he have to new seats? They have offered to move him to new seats but say he must pay for them like the rest of us.

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#17
#17
so they r offering him another seat bc the seat he always has is under construction? is that the case?
 
#18
#18
Seems to me if Neyland himself was involved in the contract then U.T. should try to accommodate the man. The offer of new seats is reasonable if the previous seats are unavailable due to the renovation, and he should pay for them. However, I do not understand the demand for a $6,000 contribution.

I just wonder how this was allowed to get to a point where a 2nd generation Tennessee fan feels the need to sue the university. This probably could have been handled better by both sides.
 
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volger said:
Are both seats being redirected to the other side of the stadium? If not he has a contract for those seats. I say his family name is entitled until they refuse the tickets, under those terms. Not what the university mandates. After the fact.
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I agree. Did that physical space of the stadium dissapear??
Give him two seats. Whatever his Dad did back then WAS important enough for Neyland to agree to this deal. Let it be. Be as good as your word, or don't give it!
 
#20
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I know Tommy and actually talked to him about this last month so I thought I might add something. They have actually tried to start charging him the alumni donation in the past. He had to bring the contract in around 5 years ago and show them that he was guaranteed by General Neyland to have those seats at face value without an alumni donation and they agreed not to charge him. When they started the renovation they stated that his old seats no longer existed and so not only does he not get to keep those seats but that invalidates the entire contract so he has to pay 6k every year on top of the face value. The seats they offered him were really good seats (although not quite as good as the ones that he has now) so the biggest issue with him is paying 6k a year for the rest of his life. I'm not familiar with the renovations myself but he thought that the biggest impact of the renovations were in the concourse and the actual seats wouldn't be affected very much so from that perspective their argument is thin.

Legally the biggest challenge is they're arguing that you can't sue a university. Tommy is a lawyer so he is handling the trial himself and he said there is some precedent for suing the school board so he thinks his lawsuit should be allowed.

He does feel kind of bad about it because he is a HUGE UT fan but he feels like they're trying to wiggle their way out of their contract. If he can keep the case from getting thrown out they'll probabaly settle.
 
#21
#21
So in turn, what he is saying is any renovations at Neyland needs to be presented before him so he can give his approval.

Here the school is having an unprecedented budget crisis and this guy can't get around his massive ego. Lawyers like this continue to give their profession a black eye.

I hope they strike a deal whereby one stipulation he's not allowed to attend any more games.I guess he thinks he's better than anyone else that's had similar things occur.
 
#22
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If I were a lawyer, I might just pony up the money regardless. The university needs it.
 
#23
#23
If he has a contract, then it needs to be honored, period. Sounds to me like the University is trying to wriggle out of this contract with the renovation story. Without knowing everything that went on behind closed doors that got them to this point, we don't know if he is being unreasonable. If the seats were truly displaced and he's raising hell about the new seats, then I hope the court throws him out on his ear.

Also, yes, the school needs the money, but ticket sales don't go towards the academic budget.
 
#24
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As president of the West Tennessee Big Orange Club, Luck's father, William Luck, helped raise money to build the stadium's upper west deck. As a result of the father's fundraising, Gen. Robert Neyland, the school's former athletic director and football coach, gave William Luck lifetime rights to buy tickets for both seats in a 1961 contract.
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His father helped raise the money to build the damn thing. Give the man his tickets.

I've held season tickets in my name for 20 years. My only complaint about the UT Athletics Dept. the entire time. They are absolutely some of the greediest SOBs you will ever deal with.
 
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