Alshon's denial of Gas Pumping quote

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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
While I will agree with that to a certain extent and I see what you mean. The part I guess that I really disagree with is that had he said he did it, it would have went away...I don't think it would have and the reason I say that is because everything Kiffin says gets put under the microscope and twisted around to make it a jab at Saban or Meyer or Richt, I'm not complaining because personally I like it, I like his confidence and I like how he speaks his mind but that's just what I'm saying, I think it would have been twisted to make Kiffin look worse had he come out and said that he did say it
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Bassmanbruno said:
Tidal Surge - I usually respect what you say and you're not like a lot of the douches on here - but you're just acting clueless and ignorant - wow. Sad to see and hard to read.

I'll take CLK and CEO's (maybe if CEO didn't back him up I would be question it) word over some retarded high school coach with an agenda that just wants some pub and an 18-year-old kid looking to stick it in the face of a coach of a rival school who likes to talk.

And the thing is - I really, really do wish he had said that - that would be hilarious... but he didn't.
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You make great points, Ainge, and I appreciate your feedback too, Bassmanbruno.

After being away from this thread for awhile, and coming back to it, I realize most Vols fans like Kiffin's persona. And if you guys are happy with him why should I try to spoil the party?

I have to confess, that his remarks and inuendo since the UA/UT game about the headset malfunctioning and the officiating being crookedly in favor of Bama really p*ssed me off. And as a result, I've been kind of lashing back over here on your board. I usually don't let stuff like that get the best of me but I did this time. Perhaps in part, because I had come over here shortly after the game and made complementary posts about Kiffin, his staff and the players, and then later read about stuff he'd been saying -- stuff that is very insulting from my point of view.

Kiffin's your HC. As long you're happy with him then that's what's important. I'll do my best to keep my trap shut about him from now on unless I've got something nice to say.

I sincerly apologize for hatin' on CLK on your board.

:hi:
 
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#53
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Tidal Surge said:
You make great points, Ainge and I appreciate your feedback too BassmanBruno.

Please accept my apologies.

I'll do my best to keep my trap shut about him from now on unless I've got something nice to say.

:hi:
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We don't expect you to keep your mouth shut. I personally crave alternative views from rivals as long as they are logical, reasonable, and semi-objective (none of us can be truly objective, now can we? :dance:).

You started in this thread by stating "it is obvious that.." This is not the way you want to begin. You never addressed my point about no other recruits having come forward claiming negative recruiting. I just ask that you engage in an honest manner. Then you can open your mouth all you want.

Please remember that, as a troll, you are held to a higher standard. Like any message board, we have plenty of Vol morons, homers, bullies, etc... But, of course, we will not tolerate troll morons, homers or bullies. It is our board after all.

Having said all that, I admire your last post. Please feel free to come back and engage along the lines that I outlined above. :shades:
 
#54
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tidal...you need to check your feelings at the door. So next year at Neyland, the headset don't work on the Tide's sidelines....the first thought out of 99.9% of the crimson fans will be that there is some home cooking going on.

in regard to the ref's I still have not seen where he said they were on the bama payroll, his comments have been that the calls were in your favor and he didn't want to get screwed on the last play. Now where did he call you a cheat?
 
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Houston Vol said:
We don't expect you to keep your mouth shut. I personally crave alternative views from rivals as long as they are logical, reasonable, and semi-objective (none of us can be truly objective, now can we? :dance:).

You started in this thread by stating "it is obvious that.." This is not the way you want to begin. You never addressed my point about no other recruits having come forward claiming negative recruiting. I just ask that you engage in an honest manner. Then you can open your mouth all you want.

Please remember that, as a troll, you are held to a higher standard. Like any message board, we have plenty of Vol morons, homers, bullies, etc... But, of course, we will not tolerate troll morons, homers or bullies. It is our board after all.

Having said all that, I admire your last post. Please feel free to come back and engage along the lines that I outlined above. :shades:
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Thanks. Sorry for not acknowledging the excellent points you made as well as others I may have failed to respond to.

Like I've said before, I've been impressed with the job CLK and the staff are doing of turning UT's program back around. I don't like some of the things he's said, but so what? I shouldn't need to share those thoughts over here on VN. I can always get that stuff off my chest with my fellow Bammers on my Bammer board.

I do enjoy talking football with Bama's rivals, but it's hard to do. Like you said, there are some on every board (including my "Bammer" board) that will sling insults at you, even if you show appropriate respect when visiting a rival board. I try to ignore that stuff, but sometimes, I fail and lash back.

Thanks again for your hospitality.
 
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Houston Vol said:
We don't expect you to keep your mouth shut. I personally crave alternative views from rivals as long as they are logical, reasonable, and semi-objective (none of us can be truly objective, now can we? :dance:).

You started in this thread by stating "it is obvious that.." This is not the way you want to begin. You never addressed my point about no other recruits having come forward claiming negative recruiting. I just ask that you engage in an honest manner. Then you can open your mouth all you want.

Please remember that, as a troll, you are held to a higher standard. Like any message board, we have plenty of Vol morons, homers, bullies, etc... But, of course, we will not tolerate troll morons, homers or bullies. It is our board after all.

Having said all that, I admire your last post. Please feel free to come back and engage along the lines that I outlined above. :shades:
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Since when did you become a Moderator and speak for everyone?
 
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VOLracerx said:
tidal...you need to check your feelings at the door. So next year at Neyland, the headset don't work on the Tide's sidelines....the first thought out of 99.9% of the crimson fans will be that there is some home cooking going on.

in regard to the ref's I still have not seen where he said they were on the bama payroll, his comments have been that the calls were in your favor and he didn't want to get screwed on the last play. Now where did he call you a cheat?
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Inuendo.

I'm not going to go dig up the quotes. I've read articles quoting what he has said, and I'll assume you have too. Surely, you understand as well as I do that he has at the very least suggested and implied that he believes the headset malfunction was Bama's doing and that the officiating in that game and in the SEC in general favors UF and UA to the extent that it throws the games their way. There are probably a few hundred posts on this board by Vols fans who sure seem to interpret his remarks that way.

I agree with the SEC's findings that -- a blown call in the UGA/LSU game (celebration penalty on AJ Green) and two blown penalty calls plus one blown no-call in the UF/Arky game -- warranted suspension of the crew that officiated those games. IMO, the outcome of those two games stood a very good chance of going the other way without those blown calls.

However, the call in the UF/MSU game that Mullen is making such a fuss about seems to be one of those cases where the video evidence that the call on the field should be overturned is not indisputable and so the officials did not overturn the call.

I do think officials make a significant number of mistakes on penalty calls and no calls. But I don't think there is any justification for implying that UF or Bama get some sort of conspired unfair preferential treatment from SEC officials. IMO, one of the best ways to improve officiating is to work cooperatively and constructively through the SEC channels and procedures that exist for that purpose. I also think it's way past time to make penalty calls and no-calls subject to the same review system that all other plays and officiating calls are subject to. Will doing those things make officiating perfect? No. But I do think those things can and would greatly improve it.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
It's obvious that Kiffin made those remarks. Alshon and his HS Coach who heard Kiffin say it have stated repeatedly to multiple sources that Kiffin did it. Why would his HS Coach lie repeatedly about that?

Where Kiffin blew it is not admitting it. After it came out that he said that, Kiffin should have been smart enough to just say that it was meant in a joking manner, that he respects USCe, etc., etc., and it would have gone away. It was pretty lame and dumb to lie about it.

Alshon still saying Lane did it: Gamecocks motivated by gas-pumping comment
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Nowhere in that article does it say Alshon said anything to that effect since March.
 
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Honestly, I'm not as keen on the few officiating and headset comments Kiffin has made.

I'd prefer a zinger for the Tide like the ones he's given to USC (gas pumping) and Urban Meyer (the whinning, snot-nosed brat).
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Inuendo.

I'm not going to go dig up the quotes. I've read articles quoting what he has said, and I'll assume you have too. Surely, you understand as well as I do that he has at the very least suggested and implied that he believes the headset malfunction was Bama's doing and that the officiating in that game and in the SEC in general favors UF and UA. There are probably a few hundred posts on this board by Vols fans who sure seem to interpret his remarks that way.
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"...suggested and implied..." should be "knows."

Bama cheats. There... everybody knows that. Kiffin is just being specific.
 
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I could see why Kiffin would deny it, but why would he lie about Alshon denying the comment? That's a lie that could easily be proven as untrue.
 
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kptvol said:
I could see why Kiffin would deny it, but why would he lie about Alshon denying the comment? That's a lie that could easily be proven as untrue.
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Do you think Kiffin recorded the call? If so, Alshon could look silly at some point if he keeps this up.

In any case, I love the image of USCjr players pumping gas after graduation. It's a classic. Image-wise, it's up there with LSU fans and their corn dogs, in my mind.
 
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I hope he said it, I hope he says it again, and I hope he makes up similar jabs for every other university he recruits against.
 
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kptvol said:
Nowhere in that article does it say Alshon said anything to that effect since March.
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True. Someone else mentioned that too. My bad. I had gotten that impression from the article because of Moe Brown saying that Alshon confirmed the remarks were said. But you guys are right the article does not indicate when he made that confirmation. Again, my bad on that.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
True. Someone else mentioned that too. My bad. I had gotten that impression from the article because of Moe Brown saying that Alshon confirmed the remarks were said. But you guys are right the article does not indicate when he made that confirmation. Again, my bad on that.
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It's okay... we're used to bad calls from bama. At least you admit it. :eek:hmy:

Now, if we can just get these USCocks grads to admit they have jobs pumping gas...
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Nope. I'm taking the word of a recruit and his HS coach who have no incentive, need or reason to make something like that up, over the word of someone who has demonstrated on numerous occasions that he can be somewhat of a loose cannon, saying ill-advised and sometimes insulting things.

Why would Alshon and his HS coach conspire to make something like that up and repeatedly lie about it?

On the other hand, is it difficult to come up with an answer for why Kiffin would lie about having said it?

Anyone who believes Kiffin didn't make those remarks is pretty delusional, IMO.

And you call me an idiot? How pathetic you are.
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How pathetic to be on a Vol message board posting about 2 teams you don't follow!! If it was said then the kid should have confirmed it...PUBLICLY!!! If you don't know, STFU!!!! Continuing to post here about things you know nothing about IS pathetic....kinda reasons to be called an idiot!! If you don't have an actual QUOTE from Alshon saying CLK said it then drop it...If you do then produce it...CLK may have said things that YOU and your Turdaloser buddies don't like, but if he had said it he would have owned up to it...You haven't a clue either way...so like I said STFU!!!!!!!!!!
 
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What does STFU mean? I'm 13 years old and dont understand acronyms yet, could you help me? I'd like to use this at school.


Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I think we should have a get personal thread or maybe all the "wish we had a bad &&& web site for our team" members should let the vol fans talk about the Vols and thier rivals. Just a thought.... Wait! Lets start a thread entitled, "I'm not a Vol fan but my teams 15 minutes of fame is gone and I really would like to jump ship and be Vol!"

Come on, admit it guys, You really want to be a Vol. All the recruits do and so should you!

Damn the Jack is kickn in.....
 
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