All-Time Underrated Team

#26
#26
Yankee_Vol said:
.584 FT%
1.8 AST
0.6 BLK
0.7 STL

Real great
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Your forgetting he was one of the five greatest rebounders AND defenders of all time.

No one is arguing that he could be the best player on a championship team but he's a HOF.
 
#27
#27
zjcvols said:
Your forgetting he was one of the five greatest rebounders AND defenders of all time.

No one is arguing that he could be the best player on a championship team but he's a HOF.
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He's a VERY GOOD player. I never said he wasn't a HOFer. There's plenty of not great(very good) players in the HOF of every sport.
 
#29
#29
Yankee_Vol said:
I'd take Duncan, Garnett, Malone, and Barkley over Rodman to name a few.
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I think Garnett is one of most overrated players there is but I think majority would disagree. No doubt you take Duncan and Barkley over Rodman. Depends on what is surrounding cast on the Malone and Rodman decision.
 
#34
#34
tvols75 said:
]I think Garnett is one of most overrated players there is but I think majority would disagree.[/B] No doubt you take Duncan and Barkley over Rodman. Depends on what is surrounding cast on the Malone and Rodman decision.
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Boston Garnett is highly overrated. He was so so good in Minnesota.

My problem with KG is that he never ever wanted to develop a legitimate post game.
 
#36
#36
GAVol said:
Not really what happened.

Jordan came back at the end of the season and had flashes but obviously was not back to his old self after the layoff. Plus, they were stuck with a high seed in the playoffs and ran into the buzzsaw that was the Penny/Shaq Magic.

Rodman obviously helped the next year, but Jordan/Pippen had already won 3 titles without him. The main thing that happened was Jordan knocked the rust off and got back to being Jordan.
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Yeah, but with a great PF, Horace Grant. Jordan did have an adjustment period when he came back, but in the playoffs he was great. They were missing a piece. Rodman made them contenders.
 
#38
#38
n_huffhines said:
Yeah, but with a great PF, Horace Grant. Jordan did have an adjustment period when he came back, but in the playoffs he was great. They were missing a piece. Rodman made them contenders.
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Again, I don't want to discount Rodman's role, but you're talking about a team that was all of 2 years removed from 3 titles, so I think you're overstating it a bit. Rodman was a big upgrade, but also Jordan, Pippen, Harper and Kukoc all wanted to do the same thing and had to figure out a way to coexist.
 
#39
#39
GAVol said:
Again, I don't want to discount Rodman's role, but you're talking about a team that was all of 2 years removed from 3 titles, so I think you're overstating it a bit. Rodman was a big upgrade, but also Jordan, Pippen, Harper and Kukoc all wanted to do the same thing and had to figure out a way to coexist.
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IMO, that's not it at all. Harper was scoring 12 ppg before Jordan came back. He had already adjusted his role. Their problem was they had redundancies. They had 3-4 guys who could do the same thing well and nobody to take care of the glass. By adding Rodman they moved up from 13th in rebounds to 4th and it freed up the other guys to do other things.
 
#40
#40
n_huffhines said:
IMO, that's not it at all. Harper was scoring 12 ppg before Jordan came back. He had already adjusted his role. Their problem was they had redundancies. They had 3-4 guys who could do the same thing well and nobody to take care of the glass. By adding Rodman they moved up from 13th in rebounds to 4th and it freed up the other guys to do other things.
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Agree with this. The Bulls without Rodman may have won 1, but they could not have won three straight again.
 
#47
#47
Yankee_Vol said:
Dirk you could build a team around. Rodman couldn't be your "star"
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What does this even mean? You can't build an offense around Rodman and you can't build a D around Dirk.

I certainly think you can build a team around Rodman. He would be the best PF possible for D'Antoni's run and gun system because with more shots per game on both ends of the floor there is more need for dominant rebounding (Marion typically made the defensive rebound with the other 3-4 guys already heading up the floor). And when you take a lot of perimeter shots like the Suns, or the '96 Bulls then you will get a lot of second chance opportunities. That's when you want the best rebounder ever on your team.

The 2004 Pistons were built around defense and rebounding. That's exactly what Rodman gives you.
 
#48
#48
n_huffhines said:
IMO, that's not it at all. Harper was scoring 12 ppg before Jordan came back. He had already adjusted his role. Their problem was they had redundancies. They had 3-4 guys who could do the same thing well and nobody to take care of the glass. By adding Rodman they moved up from 13th in rebounds to 4th and it freed up the other guys to do other things.
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I don't know that it freed up anybody to do anything different. It just freed up Phil Jackson to stop running stiffs out to play PF alongside unathletic Centers like Longley, Wennington and Perdue.
 
#49
#49
Maybe not, but the numbers suggest he did. In 1995 Kukoc and Pippen combined for 13.5 rpg and in 1996 with Rodman they combined for 10.4 rpg with team rebounding ranking improving substantially. That's a pretty big drop off.
 
#50
#50
I'm with stat boy on this one. Statistically and just by watching him play, Rodman was head and shoulders the BEST EVER at the second most important part of the game other than actually putting the ball in the hoop, and some of the greatest players of all time say he was the toughest defender they ever faced.

If that doesn't qualify somebody as "great" then almost nothing does.
 
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